MN really IS full of jealous, angry people

[durundundun]

AIBU to think MN is full of people spitting tacks that some people have a lot of money. More money than them.

I'm currently reading threads bashing those than own Range Rovers calling the owners stupid, wankers and the like.
Several threads on private school VAT where the resentment is palpable and people are positively gleeful that the private school dc might suffer and end up in sone terrible school miles away from their homes.
Threads on women who do not work and have husbands who earn a lot. Apparently these women are not rich. Their husbands are and the women live 'off their dh money', are prostitutes, their rich husbands are definitely having affairs and the woman are definitely miserable but pretend to be happy and not contributing in any way to the marriage. The same accusers then have to do a completely illogical about face and say they don't think women who earn £2k a year whilst their dh earn over 100k are living off 'his money' because she is 'still contributing' because otherwise they are agreeing that the one who earns more is the boss. And they don't really believe that. That obviously just resent and have rage about rich women who have the choice Whether to work.
Threads on people seeking private diagnoses claiming the highly qualified and regulated consultants are on the make and unethically diagnosing anyone who pays. ^
Threads on how helping adult dc with their first hike purchase makes the dc spoilt, entitled and will definitely fail in life due to always needing help.^

It's just relentless. The people attacking anyone with money are just so illogical and contradictory that it is obvious they just can't stand rich people.

They are convinced anyone with money has gotten it through ill gotten gains, tax evasion, immoral means and when all else fails pulls out the 'new money' trope. ^

Bizarrely they seem to worship people who inherited money through no hard work, sacrifice or intelligence. They love referring to them as old money in the conversations putting down those who made a lot of money themselves.^

They sniffly state they wouldn't want^ a Range Rover if it was given to them/private education for their dc/access to private healthcare/the ability to choose whether to work or not.... basically anything money can buy that they don't already have is beneath their superior moral code. Because by the end of any debate they have to resort to trying to denigrate the rich person's morality^ as all their other attacks are shown to be illogical or weird.

In all honesty most people I know would be on their knees thanking all their Gods if they had no financial worries, no health care waitlists for their sick relatives and the sorts of small class sizes and facilities private schools offer to their kids.
It's kind of cringey reading it.

Yes, yes and yes.

Of course there are "about face" views - because its not the same person expressing their view on each issue! MN is not a Hive Mind!

The only posts from rich people that rile me are those where they plead "poverty" or moan that they aren't keeping up with their peers, yet go on to say they spend £1200pm on food for 3 people plus £500pm on eating out PLUS £1000 pm for holidays!

Or those living with a cocklodger who bleat "but I luurve him" and reappear every few weeks for another bleat.

I am not angry with wealthy people, but I don't much care about their financial woes, either - I have my own, and I doubt they are losing sleep over me.

but that's not what the OP is talking about.

No one asks you or expect you to care. It doesn't mean "wealthy" people are not entitled to talk about their own financial situation. People in the same boat will understand and might have tips to help out.

Ignoring thread is one thing, insulting an OP because they have a higher income than you is unnecessary.

As you say, it is certainly full of angry people.

I agree. I’m definitely angry and extremely jealous. About the fucking weather!!! Everything else though I’m a sweetheart.

But how is it.daft?

If I buy a service then I pay VAT, what's special about paying for school?

But you've just confirmed what I've said. The rich woman needs to drive a small car and work full time to be acceptable as rich. There is this requirement that people have to do this or that to satisfy you that they are allowed to be rich.

I don't have any judgement of someone purely because they are rich. They don't have to fulfil a list of criteria to be allowed to be rich without insult.

If someone is given a house by their parents or doesn't work because their spouse earns a gazillion or they won it on the lottery. It's not my place to judge them and they don't have to justify it. Just as it isn't the place of someone in very very dire financial straights to condemn you or me

I don’t agree with the OP’s premise but posts like this are always made flippantly and yet nobody names the faultless country that does do it differently - where is this paradise?

Wow those threads have really hurt your feelings.

But amongst the rubbish there are threads where people genuinely help each other, with subjects ranging from highly complex personal issues, problems with a washing machine, to what shoes to wear to a barbecue.

And that is what makes it what it is.

You are quite right!!!

Although I have seen people scornfully suggesting that a weird number of people seem to claim to have SEN dc.

People they don't know

It is astounding

Full of? No. A lot? Yeah, probably.
I expect the only reason it feels like more is because in real life people hide those thoughts and feelings they know others will judge or which will make them look bad.

I think you get a more accurate picture of people when we are anonymous or think we are. What you see on forums is the hidden truth of people and it can be a shock if you have been going around believing people are what you think they are in real life.

People are not nicer in real life, they are just better at hiding.

Oh the irony of this angry thread 🤣

@BMW6

Of course there are "about face" views - because it's not the same person expressing their view on each issue! MN is not a Hive Mind!

It is about facing because it's the same posters when they are asked if they feel that way then what do they think of this. And they do a quick about face illogical reply

That’s humans for you

I find it really weird that people who are objectively successful and doing well in our society feel they are entitled to nothing but unquestioning approval.

Many of the choices individuals make do impact the rest of society, and that gives the rest of society an interest in the choices of individuals.

Yes but it's not just MN, it's society in general. There was a silly article in the Telegraph the other day about the most eligible bachelors in Britain now that the billionaire Duke is off the market and it included profiles on several exceedingly wealthy unmarried men with titles. The comments on the article were almost entirely nasty along the lines of "vacuous people" "ugly" "inbred" "who would go near them" etc. Their only crime was to be born into posh old families.

I mention this because I believe that the people who comment on Telegraph articles are generally older men, so a different demographic to MN.

I do find it a little odd. There are many forms of privilege and I don't see people with good health, or from 2 parent families, or who are raised bilingual getting the same level of hate.

Op, I sort of can see where you've got the basis of your AIBU from, but it's a very skewed view. Are you feeling attacked?

I don't think when people who have less are angry about inequality it's automatically jealousy. It is often very justified anger about unfairness, greed and selfishness at all levels in society but mainly in politics.

I could afford a Range Rover and private school for my one DC, probably just about. However I truly wouldn't have either even if given. Also I would happily pay more income tax for a better funded NHS, state school system and all the public services.

I agree. This just sounds like this week's version of "you're all MEEEAAAN".

There is a lot of anger on mumsnet towards lots of different things. Wealthy people, people who claim benefits, immigrants, older people, younger people, SAHMs, working mums, dog owners, cat owners, step parents, MILs...I could go on.

I had a nasty comment about me being a SAHM recently. Really shitty and uncalled for. It’s their issue, not mine. Just try to filter them out, hide threads if you need to and engage more IRL if stuff online gets to you. These people could be anyone, who knows what their issues are.

People are rightly angry at the way the Tories have underfunded education and health.

We are heading toward the collapse of the NHS, and people paying privately have no idea about the consequence of that, for those who don’t.

your post is as bad as many of the posts on here you're referring to TBH.

@ilovesooty

I agree. This just sounds like this week's version of "you're all MEEEAAAN".

But they aren't being mean to me.

Completely agree OP

Research has shown that people living in very unequal societies are like this. The gap between rich and poor has widened considerably in recent years. I can’t accept that a corporate banker on £500k a year plus £500k annual bonus is really working 28 times harder than a teacher on £35k.