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To happily pay an extra £2000 per year to....

211 replies

Fatcish · 07/06/2024 20:04

  • see a GP f2f without a wait of 4 weeks and efficient onward referral as needed to sort the issue
  • have my children taught by subject teachers and supported by TAs
  • drive my car without hitting numerous potholes and missing road markings
  • enable my elderly disabled neighbour to have more care at home (1 hour a week at the moment)
  • ensure my son doesn't languish on the CAMHS waiting list for two years getting more and more broken
  • pay public sector workers properly so they are not run ragged covering endless vacancies and schools and hospitals are viewed as aspirational and supportive places to work
  • support government led, empowered oversight bodies of our water, rivers, trains and buses
  • help the MNs on here with heart breaking experiences of seeking support with their SEN children

And on and on...all for £2k a year per FAMILY. I assume I will pay more as a higher earner. FINE. let's make it fair not equal.

OP posts:
LostTheMarble · 07/06/2024 21:53

The country apparently isn’t a magic money tree, but individual people apparently are? And I would love for most of the op to become reality, but even if the money did appear I don’t trust either main party to change anything. The NHS will not be helped, councils will not get the funding to fix roads and SEN support? I’ve read Labour’s education manifesto and it’s pitiful, Tories are obviously completely ignoring what a huge need it’s becoming. So no, I don’t think it will work or even be implemented.

RaininSummer · 07/06/2024 21:56

I couldn't afford to lose two grand. It's around 7 percent of my whole take home wage and hard enough to live already.

Brighteyedtriangle · 07/06/2024 21:56

Billions and billions and billions raised each year. It will never be enough they need more billions.

HulaChick · 07/06/2024 21:58

No, I wouldn't! Can't possibly afford to lose £2000 off my salary!! It's hard enough already making ends meet each month.

Pin0cchio · 07/06/2024 21:59

Me too op. I'm a high earner. I can afford 4 or 5k more in tax a year

Its worth it to keep a free at point of use nhs.

StripedPiggy · 07/06/2024 22:04

Well done, OP. You have fallen for the Tories’ false campaign claims and are now distributing & amplifying them online. That’s exactly what they wanted you to do, so you have been successfully manipulated by their strategists. Good job. CCHQ must be delighted. 🙄

Notatthemoment · 07/06/2024 22:07

justanotherlaura · 07/06/2024 20:08

I 100% agree but do note that that £2k figure is over 4 years not every year and the figures are apparently made up too but I do agree with the sentiment!

This. Scare tactics which have misfired.

Fatcish · 07/06/2024 22:12

StripedPiggy · 07/06/2024 22:04

Well done, OP. You have fallen for the Tories’ false campaign claims and are now distributing & amplifying them online. That’s exactly what they wanted you to do, so you have been successfully manipulated by their strategists. Good job. CCHQ must be delighted. 🙄

Eh? I'm simply stating what I'd like to see fixed if I paid more tax (on a fair shares basis). Neither Labour or Conservative have said they will do any of my requests...hence they both have no idea! No more squabbling or point scoring just simple fixes to make lives easier for many.

OP posts:
BurbageBrook · 07/06/2024 22:20

It is a FALSE.FIGURE and using the same calculations you'd pay 3k under the Tories..agree with PPs your thread title.amplifoes this nonsense. You should ask for your title to be amended or delete the thread.

70isaLimitNotaTarget · 07/06/2024 22:20

2020 by current prime minister Rishi Sunak, all money raised through VED goes back into maintaining the upkeep of the UK road system

VED should be paying to repair potholes , not coming out of that £2,000.

StripedPiggy · 07/06/2024 22:25

Fatcish · 07/06/2024 22:12

Eh? I'm simply stating what I'd like to see fixed if I paid more tax (on a fair shares basis). Neither Labour or Conservative have said they will do any of my requests...hence they both have no idea! No more squabbling or point scoring just simple fixes to make lives easier for many.

FFS, which part of ‘it’s a false claim’ don’t you understand?

Bbq1 · 07/06/2024 22:40

Fatcish · 07/06/2024 20:04

  • see a GP f2f without a wait of 4 weeks and efficient onward referral as needed to sort the issue
  • have my children taught by subject teachers and supported by TAs
  • drive my car without hitting numerous potholes and missing road markings
  • enable my elderly disabled neighbour to have more care at home (1 hour a week at the moment)
  • ensure my son doesn't languish on the CAMHS waiting list for two years getting more and more broken
  • pay public sector workers properly so they are not run ragged covering endless vacancies and schools and hospitals are viewed as aspirational and supportive places to work
  • support government led, empowered oversight bodies of our water, rivers, trains and buses
  • help the MNs on here with heart breaking experiences of seeking support with their SEN children

And on and on...all for £2k a year per FAMILY. I assume I will pay more as a higher earner. FINE. let's make it fair not equal.

Well said.

LizzieSiddal · 07/06/2024 22:44

onlyconnect · 07/06/2024 20:11

Isn't the figure mentioned over 5 years for a "family"? If that's two tax payers it's £200 per year each.
Absolutely I would.
What a shame it's not true.

This! 2K over 5 years is nothing if we can get the country back to thinks working again. I’d give double that.

DodoTired · 07/06/2024 22:46

I am fine with that. Even though I am an additional rate taxpayer, f**ck it, 2K a year aren’t material. IF there will be a result. However I agree that tax free allowance should be just abolished and everyone should pay taxes.

also still pissed about some people choosing to work part time and topping up with UC, not sure what can be done about them though… will probably be impossible to weed them out from those who legitimately can’t work full time

Fatcish · 07/06/2024 22:50

StripedPiggy · 07/06/2024 22:25

FFS, which part of ‘it’s a false claim’ don’t you understand?

I really don't want a fight but what part of irony don't you understand? 95% of the responses on this thread have got it. Of course the £2k rhetoric is bs...hence my day dream of how I would spend it.

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Lovelygreen24 · 07/06/2024 22:51

@LeiaOrganaBananaHamock bupa. £9000 is crazy! I can see why the extra £2k appeals to you. I think if my private insurance was anything over £2500 a year I'd say yeah, give it to nhs

Tickytocky · 07/06/2024 22:58

GodzillaAttacks · 07/06/2024 20:11

But it wouldn't happen.

They'd take the money and not do it.

Look at all the tax money they've squandered over the years, that could have fixed any number of those things.

You're making the assumption they actually care about the general public. They care about keeping their own wages

THIS. With bells on.

blueshoes · 07/06/2024 22:59

9,000 for Bupa medical and health insurance must be because you have a lot of pre-existing medical conditions. Just got a Bupa quote for my dh. It came in at 1,200 per year and he is over 50.

TheHateIsNotGood · 07/06/2024 23:04

Yep I'll pay an imaginary £40pw if we cut 50% of civil service jobs, renewing any necessary staff contracts with real-life T&Cs, same treatment to local council workers and reform the NHS to cut the obvious wastage/secured contracts/middle-managers/non-jobs/Trustees.

Reduce paperwork/targets/monitoring/etc nonsense for Teachers so they can get on with their jobs. Stop promoting the dickhead teachers without any personal responsibilities (mostly young men) to SLT levels just because the Board likes the cut of their suit, etc. Accept that being a good educationalist does not also confer great budgeting/economic, medical/paediatric diagnostic and parenting skills upon you.

If everyone would just try and stay in their lane a bit more, whilst helping others along the way, I might pay £40pw for that.

endoflevelbaddy · 07/06/2024 23:12

I read somewhere that using the bs calculation Tory policy would cost £3k Grin

skyfalldown · 07/06/2024 23:25

absolutely. being a higher tax payer (scotland so even higher than rUK) is a privilege - I just wish they'd actually use it for this stuff 🙄

ReadingSoManyThreads · 07/06/2024 23:28

Whenwillitgetwarm · 07/06/2024 21:05

No I wouldn’t even though I can afford it. The Tories need to explain why taxation is at a 70 year high but services are shit. Where’s the money going? Mates? PPE VIP Lanes? Where is our money today?

I’m sick to death of being asked to throw more money into an ever expanding black hole.

All I see is more demands that higher earners on PAYE like me get shaken down for more and more. And not only are we asked for more but we are insulted at the same time.

No more until a full independent audit is done.

100% this!

maybeinanotherpie · 07/06/2024 23:30

blueshoes · 07/06/2024 21:37

I already pay that by using private education and private medical and saving the government money on top of paying many multiples of 2000 in tax over decades.

Happy for others to step up.

How about everyone else? You need to be helping the vulnerable

Snead808 · 07/06/2024 23:30

Reugny · 07/06/2024 20:29

You can't pay income tax if you aren't working or have pensionable income over the tax threshold.

Or do you expect my 5 year old child or her 11 year old cousin to pay income tax?

For god's sake Whitesapphire is obviously not suggesting children pay tax. There are plenty of adults in this country who are able to work and contribute to the system, but don't. That is what they are referring to, and I don't believe you don't understand that.

MiddleAgedDread · 07/06/2024 23:30

I already pay more than £1k a year more in tax in Scotland than if I lived in England and the situation on all those things is no better!