To ask MNHQ for a Private Schools board?

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So all the 2 million threads started each day about the moral rights to private education, the immense sacrifices and the sheer unfairness of everything visited upon the poor lambs who bravely go without food, shelter and transport because they believe in sending their kids to fee-paying school can be moved there and away from everywhere else? Please?

The entitledness is unbelievable! Pathetic. People can't always get what they want by stamping their feet

My children are in state school. There is mix of children from all social classes, who get on really well.

My children have friends who live in council flat and have free school meals. My children are also friends with private school kids, who by the way, don't look down on us at all. One of the most helpful and kind family I know.

I'm not sure I would like my kids mixing with children of spiteful people like you and some other posters tho.

Because if that's what you teach them, if that's how you talk about other people and other children then I really hope one day you realise what poison you're passing down on them.

This was pretty much my exact situation and why we became private school parents. I have PTSD and depression having watched one of my children nearly die multiple times. He has complex disabilities. We had a terrible state school experience. We are very fortunate that with my mum’s help we could go private.

I’ve seen far, far more spiteful comments on these boards from non private school posters than us apparently “bleating, whining, pop-your-toys-back-in-your-pram poor lamb” private school parents (to reference just a few of the insults I’ve read on the boards here in the past few days). The spite, vitriol and glee being peddled at private school parents from people who don’t know us or our personal situations are quite astonishing.

Personally I would like a private schools board because it might have fewer insults on it and less name calling.

From decades there have been arguments that making sharp-elbowed private school parents use the state education system would force improvements in the state system. The implication was that private school parents are so demanding that it would force schools to change. I always thought it was bollocks. The past few weeks have changed my mind. They just won’t shut up!

I'm so sorry to hear that. I can't even imagine how hard that must have been for him and for you as a mother. I hope your son is doing better now. 💜

And please try not to read nasty comments.

Unfortunately, some people think they can expect less of themselves then they should.

@prawncow the state grammar system is where the sharp elbows really strike. And this keeps the private system alive in areas such as Trafford and Surrey and yet no talk of VAT on tutoring.

The five grammar schools within the King Edward VI foundation in Birmingham go furthest, with a quota policy allocating up to 25% of places to pupils who are eligible for pupil premium funding in order of their test scores.

Thos should be standard ^

@Prawncow yes completely agree

For those who’ve turned to private schools as a result of state schools failing to meet the needs of their child, I’d make the state fund the private school place. There should be real consequences for failing children with special needs.

yes!!

My country subsides small private schools and especially those for children with special needs. My brother was one in one as he struggled massively in bigger classes.

State schools will never be able to cater to children with special needs. At least not most. They are too big.

For some children specialist schools might be the right option but there are children who want to attend mainstream schools and could do so if adjustments were made. Bullying that isn’t effectively dealt with by the school is a big factor when it comes to school refusal. There are plenty of Home Ed parents who do it out of necessity rather than as a positive choice. I think the schools would rather lose one pupil, who refuses to attend and ends up deregistering, than end up permanently excluding half a dozen children. They’re judged on permanent exclusions.

I think there should be a ‘I’m incapable of ignoring threads that I don’t want to read’ board for the ‘poor lambs’ who can’t resist clicking and commenting on threads that they don’t want to read.

Can we also have an area of the forum where pregnant women can post pointless anxiety posts?

So far recently there has been;

I cleaned an oven is my baby ok?
I had a wee in a toilet with bleach in it is my baby ok?
I ate some potential metal pieces is my baby ok (this one thought the metal would get into her blood stream and go into the placenta and kill her baby)
I ate Nutella is my baby ok:

Posting about irrational anxiety is not helpful. Best thing to do is ignore the posts but people post and it fuels the pointless posts.

A couple have been taken down as they were done by a previously banned poster so there is a pregnancy troll, so just move them into a separate area and maybe they will stop!

The majority of these threads aren't started by worried private school parents but by Labour supporters to whip up support for this hair-brained policy. So YABU.

*harebrained

I heard a good point about the incessant whining and moaning about this on the radio yesterday....

To those who say they're not rich & they've scrimped and scraped and made loads of sacrifices to get their little darlings to private school who will now be unable to go because they can't afford another £68 a week...

Think about it this way, if little Rafferty can't go anymore you'll be £18k a year better off. So maybe you'll feel rich then won't you!

Yeah but your children also have a parent who actually types this out on an Internet forum so it's swings and roundabouts innit? Private school is the least you could have done.

I just think already stretched families are panicking, I would be too in their position. I don't mind the threads. It's an opportunity for these parents to reach a large amount of other private school parents.

VAT would (and indeed is) payable by private tutors once they reach their turnover reaches the VAT threshold.

Oh shush. No they aren’t. As soon as one fills up some private school parent starts up another one…

presumably a lot of these parents weren’t that well educated themselves … VAT is payable once someone self employed hits the threshold. if you’re earning under, which many freelancers do, then VAT isn’t applicable.
There are benefits to being VAT registered.

This.

Lies

The VAT on school fees issue is a general election one more than anything. Or a money matters. It really isn't an education issue as such.

I would be against a separate board; private and state parents have more issues in common than the difference in paying fees.

If private parents hive off somewhere else then we all lose out on threads to do with settling in, GCSEs, difficulties etc.