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To ask MNHQ for a Private Schools board?

154 replies

frankentall · 06/06/2024 16:11

So all the 2 million threads started each day about the moral rights to private education, the immense sacrifices and the sheer unfairness of everything visited upon the poor lambs who bravely go without food, shelter and transport because they believe in sending their kids to fee-paying school can be moved there and away from everywhere else? Please?

OP posts:
Bibi12 · 06/06/2024 19:42

frankentall · 06/06/2024 17:29

Thanks, great input.

Because I don't understand your point?

It sounds like you hate those ambitious "net contributors" but you love their taxes. Lots of them. On top of ingrained disdain for people better off then you, you also dehumanise them because they are more likely to vote differently due to having children in private school. Exactly what power hungry politicians want -divide and rule.

However this is forum for parents. And normal parents worry about their children. I have children at state school and I would be extremely worried if I had to move them, yet alone if I made many sacrifices for their education in a first place. It's not up to you to invalidate other parent's feelings.

Someone might aswell decide to mock you for having first world problems when children die in Gaza. Trust me - you are someone's sarcastic "poor little lamb ".

And most posts about VAT on private education weren't by private school parents anyway. Not everyone agrees with the policy for multiple reasons.

Anyone who understands wider consequences of VAT on education will have something to say. Some people like to discuss topics that go beyond their own doorstep.

You can chose not to read it.

CassandraWebb · 06/06/2024 19:45

Maybe there could be a " paid for" section of Mumsnet so they can keep the "plebs*" out

Grin

*(as a lovely private school parent on one thread called all state educated children)

LongSinceGotUpAndGone · 06/06/2024 19:46

CassandraWebb · 06/06/2024 19:45

Maybe there could be a " paid for" section of Mumsnet so they can keep the "plebs*" out

Grin

*(as a lovely private school parent on one thread called all state educated children)

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CassandraWebb · 06/06/2024 19:48

ResisterRex · 06/06/2024 18:40

Wow. “Unpleasant things” as in? Going to the local state school? Or are all these children younique with speshul requirements who will all be devastated if indeed all these children have to go to the comp?

See. More nastiness. Having to move school is disruptive and if you have to do it mid-GCSE then well to be honest it would be worse than unpleasant. It would potentially mean you have to resit a year if you've not been taught the same syllabus.

As for "speshul" and "younique", what a shitty thing to say about SEN children.

These are children whose lives might be disrupted for political points. Yes I do think that is unpleasant. Children have already been very negatively affected by remote learning, and now even more disruption.

I think it is fine to have some disagreement with other adults but policies that target children like this - overnight - are awful.

Labour should be honest. Do they want to abolish private school? Fine. Do it. I'd vote for that IF it were done responsibly planned and over a long period. I think Finland did this. So it could work.

They are being sent to a state school not jail.

And if their parents can't afford to ride out till the end when they are halfway through their GCSEs then they shouldn't have sent them in the first place.

CassandraWebb · 06/06/2024 19:49

LongSinceGotUpAndGone · 06/06/2024 19:46

Do you have to pay VAT though? Grin <clenches>

stayathomer · 06/06/2024 19:51

Or are all these children younique with speshul requirements who will all be devastated if indeed all these children have to go to the comp?
Jesus there’s some mean people on this thread.

Sammysquiz · 06/06/2024 20:06

My child was so “speshul and younique” that she was horrendously bullied at our local state school. The school dealt with it horrendously, and it got intolerable. So we took her out and sent her to our local private school. It has absolutely been transformative for her. Are we fortunate to be able to afford this? Yes, very much so. Is it a massive stretch for us? Also yes. We certainly can’t afford a 20% uplift. But for all the people with massive chips on their shoulders bitching about the private school families, if your child was at breaking point at their state school which had a huge behaviour problem and you could afford the small, friendly private school down the road, would you really not give it a try to help your child?

FluentRubyDog · 06/06/2024 20:14

stayathomer · 06/06/2024 19:51

Or are all these children younique with speshul requirements who will all be devastated if indeed all these children have to go to the comp?
Jesus there’s some mean people on this thread.

I know, if jealousy was an energy source, some people on here could cheerfully power an entire city!

Horseebooks · 06/06/2024 20:19

God dammit this was a great thread about this for two seconds til the private school people turned up

CassandraWebb · 06/06/2024 20:23

FluentRubyDog · 06/06/2024 20:14

I know, if jealousy was an energy source, some people on here could cheerfully power an entire city!

I think everyone has stopped being envious of private school parents since they learnt that they are all borderline destitute

UnimaginableWindBird · 06/06/2024 20:27

I have to admit that I'm curious about the number of children who will have to move schools because of VAT compared to the number who will have to move because their families get evicted from rented housing or had to move for work.

Whenwillitgetwarm · 06/06/2024 20:37

To be fair from what I’ve seen most of the recent private school threads aren’t started by those whose kids are in private schools. Similar to this one…

Conservative or Labour looks like we’ll have culture wars and populism either way. Seriously thinking about moving my family back to Australia at this point. DH left Aus due to the culture wars around boat people under John Howard and we thought this was a sensible county but when we compare the two today…

Outnumbered247 · 06/06/2024 20:38

🙄

CassandraWebb · 06/06/2024 20:40

UnimaginableWindBird · 06/06/2024 20:27

I have to admit that I'm curious about the number of children who will have to move schools because of VAT compared to the number who will have to move because their families get evicted from rented housing or had to move for work.

Oh no, those children don't matter because their parents didn't make "huge sacrifices" to pay their school fees

Itllfalloff · 06/06/2024 20:43

Yes please. Stick it with the boarding school one, out of the way -
where everyone can console each other over the cost of the ‘striving’ …

Itllfalloff · 06/06/2024 20:46

CassandraWebb · 06/06/2024 20:23

I think everyone has stopped being envious of private school parents since they learnt that they are all borderline destitute

Ah, yes ‘politics of envy’ because it doesn’t occur to many private school users that other people would NOT like to be in the vicinity if them or their offspring.

qwertyqwertyqwertyqwerty · 06/06/2024 20:46

It has got rather repetitive, I just scroll past most of them but it'd be good if they could be put into education or General Election 2024.

ElizaDoolittleAndOften · 06/06/2024 20:53

Jesus there’s some mean people on this thread

Oh no, some people on MN are being mean about my privately educated kids.

Actually, I didn’t get to be in a position to be able to pay for private education by giving any f*cks over what anyone else thought, so crack on.

MagnoliaStory · 06/06/2024 21:00

I think it would be a good idea to have a separate board. Helpful to share thoughts on tutoring, after school care, holiday clubs, entrance exams, school trips etc.

I’m bored of the VAT topic. It’s bad enough having to pay it 😂… and that’s without the incessant MN whinging on one side and the vitriol and spite on the other!!

A bit like the royal family (who I couldn’t give a shit about and ignore the board). It’s too divisive as a topic for all.

Naran · 06/06/2024 21:01

Allfur · 06/06/2024 17:39

It's amazing giving the percentage of privately educated, just how many threads there are

There are more than half a million children in private education. That's a million+ worried/angry parents. So, the number of thread isn't really that surprising.

Naran · 06/06/2024 21:04

LordSnot · 06/06/2024 17:40

No leave them here to get more traffic. It's so amusing watching the panicking wee lambs!

You are amused by people's panic?

Hopefully someone will be amused by the next thing you panic about.

Pogsby · 06/06/2024 21:09

Sure. Let's have another one called 'unpleasant oiks' where you can poke all the fun you want at SEN parents facing the very upsetting reality of moving their children into settings that won't cope with them.

Ifailed · 06/06/2024 21:11

I don’t read them. Too busy making sacrifices because I actually love my children.

Presumably then poor people hate theirs.

Mnetcurious · 06/06/2024 21:12

Naran · 06/06/2024 21:01

There are more than half a million children in private education. That's a million+ worried/angry parents. So, the number of thread isn't really that surprising.

Unlikely that both parents of every child are posting on mumsnet about it though (and that’s based on only one child per family to get to 1m parents, using your figures).
As only a small fraction of the population are privately educated it would be reasonable to assume that a comparably small proportion of mn posters are private school parents, but the number of posts on the issue does not reflect that.

CassandraWebb · 06/06/2024 21:22

Naran · 06/06/2024 21:01

There are more than half a million children in private education. That's a million+ worried/angry parents. So, the number of thread isn't really that surprising.

I hope you didn't go to private school if that's your level of mathematical and statistical understanding

Many children at private school also have siblings so the 1 child to 2 parents ratio doesn't work.

And that's before we discount all the parents who can more than comfortably afford the uplift and may even be glad it will be that little bit more elite

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