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To sleep with a 23 year old?

672 replies

Possomoppossum · 05/06/2024 18:46

Given that I am 42,he knows full well how old I am,we met on a dating site where he wanted to meet older women.ok or creepy age gap?

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LaBelleEtLeBadBoy · 06/06/2024 19:36

Sparkysmum · 06/06/2024 19:22

In this day of equality and enlightenment, there are very few people who would comment if it was a man with a young lady. In fact there are quite a few celebrities in this category.

lol people comment on this sort of thing ALL the time

Bowies · 06/06/2024 19:42

Would consider them practically a child with this age gap (though they are over 18) full maturity happens around 25 if neurotypical, later if not.

ImagineImagine · 06/06/2024 19:45

I’m your age. Not sure I would, but that’s just coz I’m married ( 20yrs) and can’t imagine anything else. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with having a bit of fun ( or more if you want) you’re both adults and it’s no one else’s business.

Grammarnut · 06/06/2024 19:45

Possomoppossum · 05/06/2024 18:46

Given that I am 42,he knows full well how old I am,we met on a dating site where he wanted to meet older women.ok or creepy age gap?

Sleep with whoever you want to. He fancies older women and you fancy younger men. Go for it and have fun. Not in the least creepy.

Maddie212 · 06/06/2024 19:46

Bowies · 06/06/2024 19:42

Would consider them practically a child with this age gap (though they are over 18) full maturity happens around 25 if neurotypical, later if not.

An adult who may have:

worked for up to 7 years (in any number of possible jobs/careers)

Obtained up to 2 degrees

Been in the army

Had a drivers license for up to 6 years

Had sex, had children

Is not a child. The infantilisation is ridiculous

is not a child fgs

OldScribbler · 06/06/2024 19:47

LostTheMarble · 05/06/2024 18:59

To add - the fact he wants to sleep with older women is very likely to mean he’s crap in bed and wants a more ‘experienced’ woman to be his teacher (massive ick in itself). He probably thinks (and would be proving as much if you went ahead) that older women are an easier shag target because they want to be validated about their ability to still ‘get it’ with extra points for getting a man half their age. So maybe in terms of ‘just a shag’ at these ages, it’s less creepy and just a bit sad really. One who can’t find a woman his own age to build a great sexual relationship with and one who just wants their ‘sexual prowess’ validated.

On what possible basis do you conclude that? Soem people are naturally good in bed; some are not. Having said that I wish an older woman had gone for me all those years ago; in fact I was so naive I never realised it had happened when a quite famous actress did fancy me.

Grammarnut · 06/06/2024 19:48

LaBelleEtLeBadBoy · 06/06/2024 19:36

lol people comment on this sort of thing ALL the time

Age disparity has always happened, both with older husbands and older wives. When marriages were arranged for family advancement (whether the participants were peasants or princes) age disparity was irrelevant. Still is, I think. Stunned that people feel a ten year age gap between husband and wife is odd or weird. Ten years older for a husband was normal pre WW2, and my late DH's third wife was eleven years older than him, his second several years younger than him. Seems fine to me.

Bowies · 06/06/2024 19:52

Maddie212 · 06/06/2024 19:46

An adult who may have:

worked for up to 7 years (in any number of possible jobs/careers)

Obtained up to 2 degrees

Been in the army

Had a drivers license for up to 6 years

Had sex, had children

Is not a child. The infantilisation is ridiculous

is not a child fgs

I said it’s how I would consider them, OP asked our opinions, that’s mine.

The brain maturation is relatively well known and regardless of degrees, having children, being in the army.

Whatinthedoopla · 06/06/2024 19:53

I was 19 when I dated a 37 year old! Looking back at it, he was old and a pervert.

Don't do it

Maddie212 · 06/06/2024 19:54

And if you commented that people under 30 are children I respond too, because I find it silly.

Totally get not wanting to date younger or comparing them to your own children but the stupid brain development at 25 thing is annoying

SuperSue77 · 06/06/2024 19:56

Sounds like you both know what the deal is here, and whilst I'm generalising, I'd say quite a few guys in their early 20s are not looking to settle down, which is not what you want either, so neither of you is leading each other on.
Go for it and have a bloody good time! So long as neither of you is hurting each other (emotionally or physically) then it sounds like a win-win to me.

I have a thing for older guys and dated quite a few when I was younger - I wouldn't say what we had was bad for either of us. Now in my late 40s happily married to a guy in his 60s and life is good. Age gaps in relationships aren't necessarily abusive or unhealthy, I really think it depends on the people involved and their relationship (not advocating under 18 age gaps or where there is a power imbalance, like teacher/pupil, boss/subordinate etc)

Bowies · 06/06/2024 19:57

Maddie212 · 06/06/2024 19:54

And if you commented that people under 30 are children I respond too, because I find it silly.

Totally get not wanting to date younger or comparing them to your own children but the stupid brain development at 25 thing is annoying

A “young person” is under 25.
I acknowledged that 23 isn’t actually a child in my OP.

Iwanttogetitright · 06/06/2024 19:58

LostTheMarble · 05/06/2024 18:59

To add - the fact he wants to sleep with older women is very likely to mean he’s crap in bed and wants a more ‘experienced’ woman to be his teacher (massive ick in itself). He probably thinks (and would be proving as much if you went ahead) that older women are an easier shag target because they want to be validated about their ability to still ‘get it’ with extra points for getting a man half their age. So maybe in terms of ‘just a shag’ at these ages, it’s less creepy and just a bit sad really. One who can’t find a woman his own age to build a great sexual relationship with and one who just wants their ‘sexual prowess’ validated.

Goodness. What cleverly crafted but pretty subjective presumptions.

Your own views are fine but imo a wee bit frightening. It may be that some of your concerns ‘could’ be spot on. Or not.

Maybe he is learning. Good lad. What exciting prospects for the student AND the teacher.

Older women aren’t an easier shag as such. Fingers crossed 🤞 that they’re experienced, know what they want, can share, teach, define boundaries, be gentle & extricate themselves definitely without drama, pain & hurt.

I am of the opinion that it’s not sad or creepy at all.

Good on you gal! Take charge (err not control!); go at your pace & then his pace; teach him, incl regarding what’s you’re range of pleasure. Experiment & share the work. Seriously. Be good to him also. Explain about pleasing a woman; enjoy the wine & chocolates & play a lot. Be tender, delicate & consider ‘new’ boundaries.

However, as others have said, watch out for your emotions.

Best of luck for a good summer. 🌞 ❤️

Deepf60 · 06/06/2024 19:59

Wow, some of the replies are very harsh. Go for it, I'm in a relationship with a man 23 years younger than me and have been for over 3 years. Do what makes you happy.

LaBelleEtLeBadBoy · 06/06/2024 20:02

Whatinthedoopla · 06/06/2024 19:53

I was 19 when I dated a 37 year old! Looking back at it, he was old and a pervert.

Don't do it

haha I also dated a 37-year old at 19.

I thought at the time that he was obviously inadequate in some way to be dating someone of my age, but I wasn’t in it for a relationship so wasn’t my concern. He was fit and charismatic and I fancied shagging him. I didn’t plan on marrying him.

No regrets!

GalileoHumpkins · 06/06/2024 20:08

MN is the absolute worst place to mention age gap relationships. If you weren't both born in the exact same year then you're obviously grim, sick, perverted, doing it for a dare, want to shag your mum/dad, and you're generally just a bit of a wrong 'un.

dhfoody47 · 06/06/2024 20:09

Do it! Life is short, I did, there was a 25 age difference! Amazing body & stamina but lacked technique 😉

LaBelleEtLeBadBoy · 06/06/2024 20:10

LordPercyPercy · 06/06/2024 20:05

The "brain maturation at 25" is a common misunderstanding:

https://slate.com/technology/2022/11/brain-development-25-year-old-mature-myth.html

Funnily enough though, I do remember something changing at about 25 (and have said this for years before the whole LDC thing made it a thing). Loads of people I know have said the same. Just suddenly feeling more grounded mentally, calmer, less neurotic.

LordPercyPercy · 06/06/2024 20:15

Funnily enough though, I do remember something changing at about 25 (and have said this for years before the whole LDC thing made it a thing). Loads of people I know have said the same. Just suddenly feeling more grounded mentally, calmer, less neurotic.

I felt it at various ages. A big change for me between 15 and 17, another between 18 and 21, and then again at around 31.

Naran · 06/06/2024 20:22

I'm sorry OP, I would find it gross. My DS is in that age band and I am in your age band.

Deepf60 · 06/06/2024 20:23

SocksAndTheCity · 05/06/2024 18:59

How and why is it 'creepy' for two willing, consenting adults to decide to have sex with each other?

Not creepy at all,both adults.

Epidote · 06/06/2024 20:24

He wants to shag an older woman, do you want to shag him? Nothing wrong by itself but I wouldn't find attractive a man his age. He hasn't grown his full beard.

AppleStruddle123 · 06/06/2024 20:26

It’s worked for Emanuel Macron so if he can be president of France I don’t see why you can’t have some fun!

Vive la difference!

LordPercyPercy · 06/06/2024 20:27

It’s worked for Emanuel Macron so if he can be president of France I don’t see why you can’t have some fun!

OP's love interest is practically geriatric compared to Macron at the start of his romance!

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