To still be really sad and angry about Brexit

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It really reduced the opportunities in my future and has achieved absolutely nothing of benefit for anyone else (besides disaster capitalists who made a mint off the financial manipulation effect). We haven't even avoided those stupid fecking tethers on the bottle lids!

When the extra immigration checks come in in October it's going to make every holiday a tiny bit upsetting.

And the new government won't even try to fix it.

Don't get me wrong I'm not one of those idealists singing ode to joy before breakfast but on a personal level it bloody sucks and seems likely it always will.

Yes, I’m still really distressed by it. I keep having conversations with people who voted Brexit saying how no one knew how badly it would turn out. It took all within me to change the subject and not say ..remember project fear?! It was widely and clearly campaigned against by all the main parties of the country. The leader of the opposition said it was such a bad idea for the country it would be irresponsible to even agree to hold a referendum on it. Yet, apparently Brian down the road knew better…

I'll always be angry about it.

Brexshit is the stupidest and most ridiculous act of self harm this country has ever committed.

Yes, I feel the same. Brexit has ruined my career, cost me ££££££ and nearly ended me altogether. I won’t forgive.

I am still sad and furious, and I will remain so until such time as we return.

It was an act of utter theft from the people of this country and I will not ever accept it as permanent. Ever.

Are you joking?
Some people are still rebuilding lives destroyed by lockdown - measures that a lot of those who oppose Brexit actually supported.
For those people, it's very much 'still going'. Talk about short sighted...

yes I am still furious and gutted by it for all the reasons PO have said. I think it’s disgusting that no major UK party has the guts to run on a rejoin ticket. Brexit is the most wasteful, disgusting,,divisive failure of a shit idea. Think of all the environmental or poverty targets we could have been taking positive action on with all of that money and time and energy that has been blown on Brexit to no purpose whatsoever.

These lot are campaigning to rejoin https://www.stayeuropean.org/

funny how he didn't want independence from his EU citizenship. where is his patriotism?

Prices could be up because of the recent wars?
Ireland is in EU cost of living and food is ridiculous.
the government needs to go is the only agreement I have

Why has it affected you so badly?

same here - it’s so depressing to think some people are that small minded. We live in France and it’s had a lot of impact on us. For zero reason. And for Zero gain to anyone. I hope one day it will be reversed…

Did he get the passport? I read there had been issues.

Thing is we can't rejoin with the favorable terms we had before so where would the benefit for them be? People forget we are a small small island they don't need us

And I'm fuming that he decided an advisory referendum was no longer advisory and did it anyway fleeing to protect his own ass it's obvious many people were unhappy with the EU and voted for brexit as a way to express that because it was touted as ADVISORY

swines they are

I'm with you OP. I'm in Scotland and have always been anti-independence but if we'd held a referendum in the months following Brexit, damn right I'd have been a yes voter. I was fucking fuming and still am. It makes it worse that parents in both sides voted for it without a thought to their grandkids. It was all about 'immigration' but if you quiz them on it they don't really know what they were going to get out of it personally. A vote smeared with racism and we're all paying the price.

That sums it up for me as well.

Years abroad for students are a beaurocratic nightmare, it has caused loads of issues at work (we have a branch in Dublin), we waited an hour to get through passport control on holiday as non EU citizens, I had to pay ££ in roaming charges on holiday.

And these are just the issues that immediately spring to mind.

What on earth did the small minded, xenophobic voters think would happen when they voted for Brexit?

Clacton. I wonder how much else in the above quote is factually incorrect.

@Zebedee999

the reason your wages were low was due to a low level of employment law.
not the reasons you gave.

i come from a working class background and yes moved about to improve my job prospects. I have lost a job three times so don’t talk about what you don’t understand, oh yes based on your reply to me that’s your thing.

the major economic data shows the harm, or do you believe the BS and twisted data out of the racist hypocritical mouth of Farage.

if you do I would suggest clinical help.

Rolls eyes. Ok I wrote ‘Clapton’ instead of ‘Clacton’. This must mean everything I said about Farage and Brexit is wrong. Farage is a great man and Brexit has worked out wonderfully for the UK.

Leavers really don’t have much to crow about if a random on the net misspelling a town name is a major gotcha to them.

Another one here who is really sad and absolutely bloody livid about it.

There was a thread on here asking what the benefits of Brexit have been not that long ago.
Nobody had any

Yeah, but ... 'sovereignty', ennit? Our new currency, after tanking the pound.

"ennit"?
Yes, national sovereignty has been a concern to many people, who are not confident about a supra national organisation.
It should have been addressed.
No need to mock people's valid concerns.

I don't disagree with you fundamentally. However, needing a visa to come to the UK to study doesn't stop international students coming to the UK and neither does or shoukd it stop UK students from studying in Europe or elsewhere in the world. Lots of the DC's friends have done it post Brexit.

Nothing stops DH and I retiring to France except that we would pay more tax there. Our dc both speak fluent French but it has very little to do with school and formal qualifications.

DD's boyfriend spent school holidays in Germany and speaks fluent German. It is highly likely he will be transferred there in the next year or so.

Freedom of movement around Europe did not commence as soon as we joined the EU or common market, it was introduced in the 80s or early 90s. I am pretty sure I had only 2 European passports between 1975 and 2015. Also, I've endured some horrendous queues coming into the UK from Europe even lre Brexit because we couldn't use the e gates because one of us didn't have the right chip on their passport!

I am old enough to remember the vociferous outcry when we joined the common market about the impact on prices and how terrible a decision joining was. My family were all for it, others were vitriolic about it.

I have no issue with immigration. It is absolutely necessary because due to the structure of our benefit system far too many people in the UK do not have to work. Tell me of another country where someone who has abundant work available can refuse to work more than 16 hours per week because it would impact their universal credit. If issues like that were dealt with, then the desire to come to the land of plenty would diminish.

Brexit has not diminished my dc's opportunities one iota. It didn't stop them going to uni, it didn't stop them doing further post grad quals, it didn't stop them getting good jobs, it doesn't stop them or us hopping on a plane to Europe when we want to. Where I work, all the European people who were employed at Brexit stayed due to the settlement scheme.

I find it really interesting that on the one hand Brits complain about relocating from their home towns to where the work is and moving geographically within the UK, but also complain they no longer have opportunities to work/live in Europe if they wish.

I find it really interesting that on the one hand Brits complain about relocating from their home towns to where the work is and moving geographically within the UK, but also complain they no longer have opportunities to work/live in Europe if they wish.

I used to frequent the higher education threads on here and on other forums. I think you are being disingenuous to deny that organising a year abroad since Brexit has caused a lot more headaches caused by red tape. So many students have had to wait months for their visas and cut it really fine when it came to organising placements, travel and accommodation.

Not everyone has the advantages you clearly have.

Valid concerns? It's all Leave voters spouted when asked about the benefits of Brexit. Yet when you asked them what they meant by 'sovereignty' there was a deathly silence. I also well remember how Remainers (and many experts in their professional fields) were mocked about their valid concerns. Everyone told them they were part of 'Project Fear'. Oh, and let's not forget how we questioned that £350m on the side of a bus. How's the NHS doing now with all that extra money?

"all leavers spouted"?
The problem was people feeling that they weren't being listened to, but patronised. I think that a valid discussion to allay those fears may have been helpful.
But terms and insults being used on here indicate that it's still not the case.
Note: I voted Remain, with some concerns about the EU. However . If people shut down discussion by using terms such as "forrin" and "ennit" to dismiss other voters, I think it's problematic.