To still be really sad and angry about Brexit

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It really reduced the opportunities in my future and has achieved absolutely nothing of benefit for anyone else (besides disaster capitalists who made a mint off the financial manipulation effect). We haven't even avoided those stupid fecking tethers on the bottle lids!

When the extra immigration checks come in in October it's going to make every holiday a tiny bit upsetting.

And the new government won't even try to fix it.

Don't get me wrong I'm not one of those idealists singing ode to joy before breakfast but on a personal level it bloody sucks and seems likely it always will.

It will have been cut because very few students choose it. A school can't run an A level with 4 students.
If more opted for it, the subject would run.
German is disappearing in our schools, unfortunately.

I am still really upset about it too.

And don’t get me started on disability rights across Europe. Try travelling in some countries with a disabled person. I promise you you’ll soon be wondering what the EU ever did for people with disabilities!

Fortunately, it wasn’t for nothing. It was to ensure that the Conservative Party wasn’t destroyed from the inside by its lunatic right-wing fringe. If Cameron hadn’t called their bluff and called the referendum the years of internal struggle could have ended in total electoral annihilation for them. Whereas now….

Oh.

I think things are quite volatile atm, in EU countries too

I understand people want to go back in but I’m not sure where it will all be in five years

Imo this GE was a good time to use the poll lead wrt this. In five years who knows.

I’m not sure where it will all be in five years

My very brexy DF has been saying that the EU is about to collapse.

Since 2003.

Oh come on. It was hell for a bit but saved lives. I lost my business and my kids took time to adjust back (all ND), DH was frontline NHS so saw lots of horror (had to tell small children they parents were dead in the next room three times and a lot more besides). But it's finished and we've got over it (apart from the shitty long COVID that means DH is working reduced hours, just glad he didn't die as 2 of his colleagues did).
Brexit is shit and seemingly forever. People dying in the channel, not enough carers or other essential workers. My kids can't move to their grandparents home land despite wanting to easily. My parents can't split their final years between their two countries as they had always planned.
I can't retire to Greece and have to be in shitty England, earning less money because it costs 15% more to import stuff and it's reduce trade.

Well Farage is back to try and win Clapton. This man has done unbelievable harm this country both socially and economically.

He previously said he didn’t want to stand because he wanted to support Trump in removing more of women’s rights. Maybe the Trump campaign told him his bootlicking services weren’t required.

Apparently he wants to make this the ‘immigration’ election after his precious Brexit vastly increased illegal immigration.

He loves immigration because it keeps the grift going.

Anyone who votes for him, knowing they’ll be more likely to catch him on tv than his local constituency is an idiot and deserves everything coming to them.

I will never forgive Farage for giving us Brexit and poisoning our country. He’s a traitor.

Well yes, which begs the question how good is the teaching at GCSE level if no one wants to study it at A level? In actual fact though I know quite a few people who would have chosen it for A level at that particular college and even if the intake was low, in a perfect world it would still be available to those students. Such a shame.

My post didn’t mention collapse.

That’s your ‘Brexy DF’

Well most German teachers I know are excellent.
Students don't opt for it because they perceive it to be a hard GCSE.
They feel Spanish is easier.
Not all the teachers' fault.

I have only ever met great German teachers @Corinthiana The problem really is resources.

I also don’t understand why devolved powers are generally considered by most people to be good, except when it comes to the EU.

Lassi, good for him or her. And yes, he or she shoud continue to study it privately and go and spend time in Germany. There is a huge need in business, engineering, sciences, international law and accounting, banking, IT and so many other careers, for good linguists. And the fewer there are, the most 'niche' they become, the more valuable, and good make all the difference in landing a great job and great opportunities abroad. Not as a linguist per se, but as any of the above + 1 or 2 FL. BRAVO.

Well the same obviously

That's what I don't understand.
If you're against a supra national organisation, fine, but it does seem counter intuitive to want to be in the EU if you want your own sovereignty.

Thanks @fungipie They are quite ambitious and would love to work internationally. They know that in order to do that further study is needed. It was just such a shame about the A level but it was more evidence if needed of the inequality we have in the UK. They will be ok (they have me!) but others are not so lucky.

Sad and sickened. What a mess. What egotism to have taken so much from our children and country in the name of ‘patriotism’. So misguided.

Your post says

I understand people want to go back in but I’m not sure where it will all be in five years

That implies that you believe the EU might not be doing so well, or perhaps failing.

But my point still stands, and your post kind of backs it up.

My grandson's private school has very small classes, less than 5, for French, Spanish and German.

My father’s family also suffered horrifically under the Nazis, but some posters still think there is a correlation between hitler and Farage!

No that’s your incorrect assumption

after reading Small Is Beautiful by EF Schumacher I think my view on the EU changed a little @Corinthiana

@Lassi I have never said everything wrong in the UK is down to Brexit, how bizarre you should think that. I rail against this awful government every single day. My work brings me into contact with some of the most vulnerable people in society, whose lives have become immeasurably worse due to austerity policies. Brexit is one of many things I feel sad and cross about. I campaign, I protest, I write to my MP far more than he'd like, I sign petitions. And yes, sometimes it does me good to go onto anonymous forums and say, to like minded people, yep, still furious about Brexit. Being joined on those forums by other people (not you, I realise) who don't seem to have even basic knowledge about Brexit, telling me I should get over it.....well, it seems a bit unnecessary.

@Haggardandhungry i have never said you should get over it. Nor would I!