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To dislike it when men post on mumsnet?

406 replies

N225NNW · 02/06/2024 07:52

I find it annoying. Why can’t they use their own men’s websites? Of which there are many!

*Note I put a thread up like this last night. Then went to bed. When I woke up this morning, it had been deleted by MN. Not sure what went on there..

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ASighMadeOfStone · 02/06/2024 09:21

sanogo · 02/06/2024 09:12

Lots of people on MN that aren't Mum's

Why don't you moan about that too?

The kind of goader who doesn't want men posting is also the kind of person who doesn't want non-parents on here either.

Presumably because in their real life if they aren't talking about bubbas they're lost.

DesparatePragmatist · 02/06/2024 09:21

Hmm. I basically agree with you, OP. I've always assumed the 'by parents for parents' was MNHQ needing to avoid getting on the wrong side of equality rules, without actually changing the intention to have a predominantly women's site, so citing the tagine doesn't feel like a gotcha to me.

I do think there's a profound difference between a man coming on here to access advice on something for his family or relationship, and a man coming here as many of us do, to socialise, share experiences and be entertained. The former is reasonable and sensible, the latter comes over as creepy and intrusive. I don't know any men irl who would dream of hanging out on Mumsnet.

Chanelbasketballandchain · 02/06/2024 09:21

5128gap · 02/06/2024 09:08

See, this is the sort of nonsense that's irritates me. You can come on to a site where every day women are offered a plethora of free advice from other women who may have expertise in law, finance, DV, counselling or lived experience, advice that supports, motivates, changes (and sometimes even saves) lives; yet you're so fixated on and upset by some negativity towards men from some posters, that you won't even acknowledge that, and so discredit us all.

Before advising women not to come here, you should consider revisiting some of the threads and try looking at them without viewing through the lens of your own bias. Because for every 'man hater' there are countless balanced, helpful and informed posts.

But that advice and expertise will come from men just as women, that's the point.

I find the forum an interesting mix, but male and female bring things equally to the discussions. Maybe not equally as it seems men are a minority, but the gender/ sex is pretty irrelevant in most cases.

Newbutoldfather · 02/06/2024 09:21

@PoochiesPinkEars ,

‘Which would be tricky to administrate reliably, but those men who realise they are coming into our space and therefore women here might appreciate that could respectfully start a post with 'man here' or 'I'm a man'.... 😁’

Umm, I don’t know how long you have been on this site, but the majority of posters detest men who do this. As they say, it is like a loud man bursting into a room full of women and announcing his presence!

I would never do this as, on most threads, it is irrelevant. However, given my screen name, it certainly isn’t a secret.

TroysMammy · 02/06/2024 09:22

A male parent may want a woman's take on questions they may have. Not all children have a mother around for various reasons.

NattyTurtle · 02/06/2024 09:22

Wheredidileavemycarkeys · 02/06/2024 09:00

Mumsnet. By mums for mums.

It’s actually “by parents for parents” isn’t it?

Yes, it says so right at the top of the page.

OhHelloMiss · 02/06/2024 09:23

Op you keep saying 'I see that a lot' to each example given

Where? I've been here 18 years and don't see much. Where are you frequenting ?

OhHelloMiss · 02/06/2024 09:23

TroysMammy · 02/06/2024 09:22

A male parent may want a woman's take on questions they may have. Not all children have a mother around for various reasons.

Good point!

missmollygreen · 02/06/2024 09:24

N225NNW · 02/06/2024 08:00

Yes of course, I’ll just have to put up with it. Life is tough.

However there’s a dadsnet for parents too. Why do dads not go there?

Sometimes I just want women’s voices (children or no children), without men sticking their oar in.

I’m here just so many responses, as I’m responding!!

And yes, Even more annoying when they start ‘dad here’.

Edited

Life is indeed tough... if this is as tough as your life gets... well I don't think you have much to complain about

N225NNW · 02/06/2024 09:25

ASighMadeOfStone · 02/06/2024 09:21

The kind of goader who doesn't want men posting is also the kind of person who doesn't want non-parents on here either.

Presumably because in their real life if they aren't talking about bubbas they're lost.

What? Your brain makes some stuff up.. Information overload, confused! Comprehension limited. That’s ok.

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Newbutoldfather · 02/06/2024 09:25

Those who genuinely want this to be a female only ‘safe space’ (I wish Orwell were still alive….) should message Justine and ask for the site to be changed to accommodate your desires.

I can’t see it happening though as men actually are parents and an important part of a parenting site’s intended audience.

However, contacting MNHQ is the way to go if you are serious.

thisiswheretheseagullfliesaway · 02/06/2024 09:25

I've been here about 19 years on and off and there were definitely men here then. Mumsnet sounds way punchier than parentsnet so I'd suspect that's why it was chosen, easier to build a brand on a snappy memorable name. Mums may have been the target demographic but the intention I assume was for a parenting site. Wasn't it originally set up after a disastrous family holiday?

N225NNW · 02/06/2024 09:26

DesparatePragmatist · 02/06/2024 09:21

Hmm. I basically agree with you, OP. I've always assumed the 'by parents for parents' was MNHQ needing to avoid getting on the wrong side of equality rules, without actually changing the intention to have a predominantly women's site, so citing the tagine doesn't feel like a gotcha to me.

I do think there's a profound difference between a man coming on here to access advice on something for his family or relationship, and a man coming here as many of us do, to socialise, share experiences and be entertained. The former is reasonable and sensible, the latter comes over as creepy and intrusive. I don't know any men irl who would dream of hanging out on Mumsnet.

Agreed. Thank you.

  • In fact very few men I know post online much at all ime.
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OldLondonDad · 02/06/2024 09:28

Things that I find/have found really useful about Mumsnet:

  • Info about schools/education
  • Info about neighbourhoods I considered moving to and whether they were good for families
  • Quickly check is this behaviour ok/normal/something kids will grow out of etc
  • Quickly check symptoms/health concerns for kids

None of these are specific to mums, and there is nowhere else that’s as useful that I have found.

NattyTurtle · 02/06/2024 09:28

Newbutoldfather · 02/06/2024 08:45

It isn’t a women’s site, it is a parents’ site-their strap line is ‘by parents for parents’. I have been on here about 14 years, since I had a child. I have learned a lot and hopefully contributed usefully to others.

It is incredibly entitled to think that you can repurpose a site, especially if you are childless. I.E not an intended user (clearly different if you are trying to conceive or otherwise in some kind of parental role).

Well, given that one of the questions when you register is whether or not you have children, or are intending to conceive, I'm sure that if MN didn't want childless people joining they would reject them at that stage. Many of the threads on here have nothing whatsoever to do with children or parenting.

It's incredibly entitled of you to think you can dictate who posts on this board tbh.

ASighMadeOfStone · 02/06/2024 09:29

OhHelloMiss · 02/06/2024 09:23

Op you keep saying 'I see that a lot' to each example given

Where? I've been here 18 years and don't see much. Where are you frequenting ?

Probably the sex topic.
And is probably the kind of poster who still has the vapours and calls for PigletJohn if she needs her lav unblocking.

OhHelloMiss · 02/06/2024 09:30

Nobody moans when @pigletjohn appears in a thread....nobody

Littlebitofsomething · 02/06/2024 09:30

DesparatePragmatist · 02/06/2024 09:21

Hmm. I basically agree with you, OP. I've always assumed the 'by parents for parents' was MNHQ needing to avoid getting on the wrong side of equality rules, without actually changing the intention to have a predominantly women's site, so citing the tagine doesn't feel like a gotcha to me.

I do think there's a profound difference between a man coming on here to access advice on something for his family or relationship, and a man coming here as many of us do, to socialise, share experiences and be entertained. The former is reasonable and sensible, the latter comes over as creepy and intrusive. I don't know any men irl who would dream of hanging out on Mumsnet.

MNHQ have clearly said in the past that parentnet wasn't as catchy and this is the sole reason why it's mumsnet.

OhHelloMiss · 02/06/2024 09:30

Or Wilf!

mathsAIoptions · 02/06/2024 09:30

I'd like to think they find it helpful to get a broad range of parenting advice. However what I do agree is annoying is when they zone in on relationships board and defend whatever arseholery the poster's DH/DP is doing simply because he is a man and they cannot, simply CAN NOT view it from any other perspective. I don't think they even try half of the time.

Fine to use this as a parenting forum but we don't need to be gaslit when looking for advice.

Thisagainandagain · 02/06/2024 09:31

DoraSpenlow · 02/06/2024 07:58

Mumsnet. By parents for parents. Generally speaking you need a woman and a man to become a parent.

Do you. Our children are being told that men can give birth. Any alternative is labelled transphobic.

However its a parenting website.

GentlemanJohnny · 02/06/2024 09:31

N225NNW · 02/06/2024 08:02

It's as dull as fuck over there. Same with Gransnet. The bulk of postings on this site are on MN.

ASighMadeOfStone · 02/06/2024 09:32

N225NNW · 02/06/2024 09:25

What? Your brain makes some stuff up.. Information overload, confused! Comprehension limited. That’s ok.

Comprehension issues?
Look up the word "probably".
As Soupy has asked you, how come you've namechanged for this?

N225NNW · 02/06/2024 09:32

ASighMadeOfStone · 02/06/2024 09:29

Probably the sex topic.
And is probably the kind of poster who still has the vapours and calls for PigletJohn if she needs her lav unblocking.

What are vapours and who’s piglet John. I never go on the sex boards.. well unless a particularly popular one turns up on currently trending.

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Newbutoldfather · 02/06/2024 09:32

@NattyTurtle ,

‘It's incredibly entitled of you to think you can dictate who posts on this board tbh.’

Except I never did that. The OP and many of you are, though.

As I said above, I respond to posts based on their content, not on any other aspect of the poster (sex, age, parental status etc etc).