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To dislike it when men post on mumsnet?

406 replies

N225NNW · 02/06/2024 07:52

I find it annoying. Why can’t they use their own men’s websites? Of which there are many!

*Note I put a thread up like this last night. Then went to bed. When I woke up this morning, it had been deleted by MN. Not sure what went on there..

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InWithPeaceOutWithStress · 02/06/2024 08:47

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Snoopingaroundhere · 02/06/2024 08:47

MrsDTucker · 02/06/2024 08:42

So I don't understand why you commented on my post.

So because I joined a few months ago I can't comment on your post 😂

ilovesooty · 02/06/2024 08:48

Newbutoldfather · 02/06/2024 08:45

It isn’t a women’s site, it is a parents’ site-their strap line is ‘by parents for parents’. I have been on here about 14 years, since I had a child. I have learned a lot and hopefully contributed usefully to others.

It is incredibly entitled to think that you can repurpose a site, especially if you are childless. I.E not an intended user (clearly different if you are trying to conceive or otherwise in some kind of parental role).

How are childfree posters intending to "repurpose the site" simply by posting?

blue345 · 02/06/2024 08:48

Man here = not claiming any ownership of a female perspective, offering this thought up, but it would be useful for you to know it's from the male angle as that could be relevant to how useful or not it is.

This. I see it as respectful and not wanting to deceive.

I'm happy for men to post, why shouldn't they? The idea of a public forum is to get a range of opinions. MN is also not a particularly supportive space at times, some of the (female) posters are brutal.

bluetopazlove · 02/06/2024 08:49

I don't really bother to be honest ,why do I need an introduction to decide whether their opinion is valid to me ? I don't need I'm male/female ,black/white or gay straight .

Didimum · 02/06/2024 08:49

Personally I think some of the women on here are far more problematic and derogatory to other posters.

5128gap · 02/06/2024 08:50

I dislike it when anyone uses MN as a platform for a male centred agenda, be they men or the women who for some reason believe men to be a frail misunderstood and maligned demographic who need women to speak in their defence. However on the plus side, they enliven debate, and I enjoy watching women post intelligent counter arguments to discredit the nonsense.
I dislike any posts that toss around the term 'misandry' as though it's the equal opposite to misogyny. It's dramatic, hyperbolic and often actually offensive in the context of the discussion. I find NAMALTing tedious, as its been said and answered so many times it feels like ground hog day.
I have zero interest in 'the male perspective' because one random on the Internet has no more insight into all men than we do as women who live with them all around us. Plus, there are vanishingly few topics where being of the male sex makes an opinion more valid and interesting than a woman's.
So, I have no issue at all with the sex of individual posters. Tbh we never know for sure anyway, as all we have of anyone is their words. It's the desperate attempts to centre men in one of the few places where women's issues are the primary focus that I take issue with.

Newbutoldfather · 02/06/2024 08:50

@ilovesooty ,

To be honest, I don’t really mind who posts. I take posts on the basis of what they say, not who is saying it.

My point was that childless women saying they don’t like parents posting on a parenting site is, to put it mildly, slightly cheeky.

N225NNW · 02/06/2024 08:50

camelofdestiny · 02/06/2024 08:44

Dont mind men posting at all. What I do mind is when women are expressing a uniquely female experience (eg feeling unsafe in certain situations etc) and a man comes on to tell us we are wrong and shouldn't feel a certain way. I think that is absolutely vile, dangerously insidious and shows a complete lack of empathy or emotional intelligence.

That’s right. And I’ve seen that - a lot. Hence my op.

As I stated earlier not too bothered if a man wants to come here and talk about politics or cat litter, their favourite band lyrics, private school fees or any of that. Couldn’t care less.

What I don’t like is the stuff you mention, and similar.

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Jennyathemall · 02/06/2024 08:51

I don’t have a problem for all the reasons
given previously.
What I do have a problem with is all the obvious man-haters on MN who seeks to derail every attempt at balanced conversation, to the point where I wouldn’t advise anyone with relationship concerns to ask MN anymore. All reasonable advice is drowned out by claims of “of course it’s all the man’s fault” and calls to LTB. The concept of working on a relationship is almost now completely gone from MN discussions.

N225NNW · 02/06/2024 08:52

Didimum · 02/06/2024 08:30

Life is tough

Life is not ‘tough’ because you can’t get exactly what you want on an internet forum 🙄 And no one should be shipped off to another website just because it’s called ‘dadsnet’.

What constitutes as ‘sticking their oar in’? Asking a question? Answering one?

Sounds like you have deep seated issues surrounding men if you have an issue existing alongside them on a chat forum – a chat forum isn’t your personal space. You may feel happier in life if you resolve that.

😂😂 thanks babe

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Pippa246 · 02/06/2024 08:53

Maybe they identify as mums 🤔. No female biology, no periods, no female hormones, no pregnancy, no giving birth, no pre/post natal experiences - but they can still share their experiences of “being mums”.

Ok I’m being slightly facetious, but you get my point. Males are nurtured and socialised completely different to females so I’m not particularly interested in what they have to say about female issues. If it’s in the litter tray, that’s different.

SilverHairedCat · 02/06/2024 08:53

BlueJamSandwich · 02/06/2024 08:41

Perhaps Mumsnet could add a feature that prevents men posting on threads where they're not welcome? Or even from viewing threads that the OP has started where they don't want men anywhere near it.

I don't know how you'd get posters to verify their sex though, beyond declaring it when they register.

Now change the word "men" for "black people" or "gay people". 🙄

Fortunately they aren't idiots at MNHQ, they offer this site based on equality and understand what denial of services based on a protected characteristic is.....

opilikg · 02/06/2024 08:54

What I do have a problem with is all the obvious man-haters on MN who seeks to derail every attempt at balanced conversation

Like what's happened here, it's just classic MN, OP has the gall to post an opinion, bored women line up to pummel her and tell she's wrong for their early Sunday morning kicks.

Don't worry I'm balanced with my general
dislike of most people from both sexes Grin

MrsDTucker · 02/06/2024 08:54

@Snoopingaroundhere

No I said originally it was made for mums.

You gave reasons why it wasn't.

I said they didn't apply when it was set up and you agreed.

Howbizarre22 · 02/06/2024 08:55

ByPeachSeal · 02/06/2024 08:31

I think it’s mostly women because of attitudes like this, and because despite expecting men to be equal fathers you don’t want to allow them to share a parenting space to seek help.

This isn’t a women’s space. It’s a parents one.

Attitudes like what? Recognising things are not equal for women because of MENS attitudes and the way we are treated so wanting to keep MUMSnet as one of the only space for women to feel safe to discuss issues? My attitude has nothing to do with not wanting men to be equal parents. There are plenty of spaces for men ie the rest of society.

Didimum · 02/06/2024 08:55

N225NNW · 02/06/2024 08:52

😂😂 thanks babe

You’re entirely welcome.

TheCadoganArms · 02/06/2024 08:55

I'm a man. I found this site several years ago when going through various rounds of IVF. It kept on popping up on Google searches and while I avoided it at first I soon came to realise it was an excellent and helpful resource. I soon got pulled into the orbit of AIBU and Relationship boards and while the former was often a bit of a laugh the latter was a depressing eye opener as to how many men can behave. I only state my sex if it is relevant to the topic being discussed and yes I roll my eyes too when I see some bloke on here mansplaining away thinking he has some special insight on a subject because he is a man. If I am offering some advice on a travel, domestic appliances, the film I have just seen etc I keep quiet as to what sex I am.

opilikg · 02/06/2024 08:55

I don't like the men who only post on the sex board. I think they make that board unusable for the majority of women on MN.

Yes and all the "cool girls" circling them Envy (NOT envy!)

Chanelbasketballandchain · 02/06/2024 08:56

camelofdestiny · 02/06/2024 08:44

Dont mind men posting at all. What I do mind is when women are expressing a uniquely female experience (eg feeling unsafe in certain situations etc) and a man comes on to tell us we are wrong and shouldn't feel a certain way. I think that is absolutely vile, dangerously insidious and shows a complete lack of empathy or emotional intelligence.

I have seen that a lot coming from women too to be fair.
The "I don't experience it" so you must be wrong or you must be lying.

Followed by the usual "if you don't agree with me, you MUST be a MAN".

SilverHairedCat · 02/06/2024 08:57

Newbutoldfather · 02/06/2024 08:45

It isn’t a women’s site, it is a parents’ site-their strap line is ‘by parents for parents’. I have been on here about 14 years, since I had a child. I have learned a lot and hopefully contributed usefully to others.

It is incredibly entitled to think that you can repurpose a site, especially if you are childless. I.E not an intended user (clearly different if you are trying to conceive or otherwise in some kind of parental role).

So fuck all those women and men with infertility right?

Close down the infertility board?

Stop hosting all the work, pet, cost of living, politics, running a small business boards?

If it isn't a post about a child, you can't talk about it right?

feelingalittlehorse · 02/06/2024 08:57

Thing is OP, and I don’t want to ruin the internet for you, but how do you know who is male and who isn’t on here? It’s all anonymous. So the 30yo mum from Manchester giving you advice, could be 51yo Carl from Chigwell. 🤷🏽‍♀️

I think presuming who people are when posting under an online moniker, is very naive.

N225NNW · 02/06/2024 08:57

@5128gap

‘..or the women who for some reason believe men to be a frail misunderstood and maligned demographic who need women to speak in their defence’

😂

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Wheredidileavemycarkeys · 02/06/2024 08:57

The “man here” type posts do have me rolling my eyes 🙄 but just regular posting doesn’t bother me.
Sometimes a man will jump on a thread and try and argue male entitlement is best but that happens very rarely and they tend to get their arses handed to them

Nocturna · 02/06/2024 09:00

Most threads by men start the same - asking for advice as there wife is distant, doesn't go on date nights etc. In there somewhere will be the actual issue, the wife hasn't had sex with him in a while, what advice can we give to convince her to have sex with him.