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Things you're supposed to give a shit about, but you don't.

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BrickTraybake · 31/05/2024 22:49

You know those little things in life that people like to morally police and make you feel guilty about but you just can't muster up the shit to give?

This is a confession thread. I'll start.

I don't give a shit that you supposedly shouldn't feed bread to ducks. I don't care. Don't eat it then. People have been feeding them bread for decades and now we're supposed to bring them organic bloody walnuts or something? Or some other crap they don't want that doesn't float?
They can have my slightly mouldy bread and be grateful.

Over to you.

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PullUpTheDrawbridge · 01/06/2024 10:26

EarringsandLipstick · 31/05/2024 23:11

Why do you care?

Because I've common sense & the safety of women is important to me.

HTH

⬆️ this.

Not caring about men in women's spaces is not about their genitals. (Which for the vast majority of trans women are still penis shaped).

It's about women's safety. You know that the motivation for many men transitioning is to make sexual harassment easier right? Not my opinion - a fact seen in prison intelligence and data.

committees.parliament.uk/writtenevidence/18973/pdf/

GentlemanJohnny · 01/06/2024 10:26

Beautifulbythebay · 31/05/2024 22:59

For the ignorant among us..

So (a) it's not the bread but the mould and (b) the only real effect is increased duckshit.

Funnywonder · 01/06/2024 10:27

Bold fail there. That was a quote. Not my opinion!

WhatNoRaisins · 01/06/2024 10:27

Blondiebeachbabe · 01/06/2024 10:22

100% this.

Absolutely fed up to the back teeth of hearing the phrase "mental health". I set myself a challenge a few weeks back, to see if I could get through a day without hearing "mental health" mentioned somewhere (TV, internet, conversations, radio). Haven't managed ONE day yet.

I used to want to be a really compassionate person but I've realised you actually have to be very discerning about what ugliness and misery of others you take on for yourself. At lot of the time there will be next to nothing you can do to help and all taking it on does is spread the ugly.

Obviously different when it's someone you're close to and/or can help.

Supergirl1958 · 01/06/2024 10:27

SomeBollocks · 31/05/2024 22:58

Beside the point I know, but feeding bread to ducks is actually fine - in the winter they really need the calories. Ideally wholemeal. Not mouldy though! (I know you don't care OP, just putting it out there...)

Personally I don't care about the state of my nails (hands or feet)

On your second point I wholeheartedly agree!
I also don’t care about having a full face of make up! I really can’t be bothered waking myself up early just to put in a bit of effort to make myself look good! Contrary to popular belief no one is naked without make up and you actually look nice without it!

Coaltodiamonds · 01/06/2024 10:27

Kids in general being indoors on screens. In threads about kids screaming in gardens / kicking balls against fences etc, someone will always say 'better than them being indoors on screens'

I can see why people would rather their own kids were outside playing than indoors on screens, makes total sense, but other people's kids? Do you really care about their development or whatever?

Personally I'd love it if next doors kids were inside on screens all the time, it would make my summer and using my garden much more enjoyable.

GentlemanJohnny · 01/06/2024 10:27

What Keir Starmer is doing to the Labour Party's left wing.

CrispieCake · 01/06/2024 10:27

Purplebunnie · 01/06/2024 10:09

The bread the Victorians fed to ducks wasn't full of bloody preservatives and all the other shit they put in our supermarket loaf

Though it might have had large quantities of arsenic in it. You wouldn't believe some of the things that were used back then to bulk bread out and save on flour costs.

Georgyporky · 01/06/2024 10:28

I don't care about hurting the feelings of transvestites in female changing rooms when I tell them to get out.

bouquetofpheasants · 01/06/2024 10:28

RaverQuavers · 01/06/2024 09:01

Of course. So in that instance just don’t use the toilet when out. If you’ve decided it’s so unsafe based on your own warped sense of risk

@RaverQuavers You think it’s more important for a man to use the toilet than women and girls? You are barking for the sake of it. Try using your common sense.

zeldazoo · 01/06/2024 10:29

I married into a 'football' family. Literally everyone loves it and every family gathering involves long tedious discussions about. I can't stand it. I've tried. I've tried getting interested in womens football. Nope just so boring

Idontgiveashit · 01/06/2024 10:32

Funnywonder · 01/06/2024 10:26

And while I'm here I'll add people who go on about their neuro diversity, there's so much ND now that NT is going to be the minority at this rate. Why can't people just accept that we all have our own quirks and oddities, not everything needs a label.

People like you @Idontgiveashit are the reason ND people feel the need to 'go on about' their neurodivergence (it's not neuro diversity - think about it). Ignorance like yours, where it is assumed that ASD and ADHD etc are just a bunch of 'quirks and oddities', needs to be challenged. And challenged again.

Why though? Why go on about it? Why do you think people care? Why is it everyone else's responsibility to support you through life?

CrispieCake · 01/06/2024 10:33

cerisepanther73 · 01/06/2024 09:54

@BrickTraybake

Bread 🍞 is the equivalent of junk food for birds wildlife
It's cheap enough to buy proper bird food from various stores such as Home bargains , The Range store and other places too,

Why would bird life want mouldy going off stale junk food in the first place then?

I am former Rspb bird life society charity organisation of Uk

Presumably they want it for the same reason that humans want KFC, McDonalds or Crispie Creme doughnuts?

I'm not saying they should be given it, but if proper bird feed is the equivalent of boiled white fish with lentils and steamed greens, it's not difficult to see why they might go for the bread.

Purplebunnie · 01/06/2024 10:34

jackandy · 31/05/2024 23:36

This is true for me too. I love ballet and female ballerinas, even though I am aware of the health issues such as bad feet and eating disorders for them.

Male dancers prancing around with the outline of their tackle on display for all to see? Meh! They don't ever have to go on point (imagine the whingeing if they did) and they look like they're constantly showing off.

And yet the rational side of me tells me they also work extremely hard.

Male ballet dancers are going en pointe a bit now. Notwithstanding that their athleticism is off the scale

They also have to pick up ballerinas, chuck them in the air and catch them

I do agree about their apparel - not sure what the answer is there

The ballet world is going through a bit of a change at the moment

Edited to add - agree the feet are pretty ugly

WhatNoRaisins · 01/06/2024 10:34

I think the going on about neurodiversity has backfired a bit and made a lot of people just glaze over. It's too complex an issue to expect the general public to "educate themselves" on.

Idontgiveashit · 01/06/2024 10:38

WhatNoRaisins · 01/06/2024 10:34

I think the going on about neurodiversity has backfired a bit and made a lot of people just glaze over. It's too complex an issue to expect the general public to "educate themselves" on.

Edited

It's neuro divergence before funny wonder steps in to correct you. What is neuro typical anyway? I don't believe there's not some "typical" brain that all work in exactly the same way. Everyone's brains will be different.

Caththegreat · 01/06/2024 10:38

Read up.about it but u don't give a shit do you.poor birds

TheGoldSnake · 01/06/2024 10:38

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Supergirl1958 · 01/06/2024 10:39

WhatNoRaisins · 01/06/2024 10:34

I think the going on about neurodiversity has backfired a bit and made a lot of people just glaze over. It's too complex an issue to expect the general public to "educate themselves" on.

Edited

Wow really? Neurodiversity in some cases isn’t an obvious disability (for want of a better turn of phrase). Would you glaze over if you saw someone in a wheelchair or other aid?
You wouldn’t be saying this if you had to fight tooth and nail to get your child a diagnosis so that no one labels him as naughty! (Even people in the education profession! When he was three and clearly struggling with emotional dysregulation…which has been diagnosed by several professionals by the way and isn’t just me ‘going on’ about it.)

ScruffMuffin · 01/06/2024 10:39

@MuchuseasaChocolateTeapot Totally agree with you about drama! I absolutely hate it. Was actually talking about this with DDs 16 and 18 the other day... they're over it too.

I can honestly say that I've NEVER been involved in any family, friendship or workplace drama. Not ever. And if I end up always being on the periphery of things as a result (which I probably do), then so be it. I'm living proof that it's possible to steer right around it. Just don't engage.

LuckySantangelo35 · 01/06/2024 10:41

RaverQuavers · 01/06/2024 09:30

classic, can’t answer so try and pivot back.

A minority of women feeling unsafe doesn’t trump trans women and trans men feeling unsafe.

Again, where does it stop when trying to make everyone feel safe within public policy. As I mentioned earlier we regularly see posts on here of women asking if they’re unreasonable for getting annoyed about a mum bringing her under 5 year old boy into female toilets or changing rooms. They’re told they’re BU but if you want them to feel safe then where does it end? Why do you get to decide the level of safety women are able to feel when using the toilet. And that line is trans women

This is also why it’s good to look outside of the MN echo chamber at times. The policies around men on delivery wards is a key example. So many on here froth about it, but overwhelmingly young women are ok with men on the wards and want their partners there. So much so NHS policies are changing to accommodate.

Our local hospital did this last year, had a no men policy after what turns out was 6 complaints in total (found out after a FOI request) and after polling patients 98% were in favour of having men on the wards. Yet if you based your view on just what you see on here you’d assume the opposite was true.

@RaverQuavers

you really do have a lot of internalised misogyny

WhatNoRaisins · 01/06/2024 10:42

Supergirl1958 · 01/06/2024 10:39

Wow really? Neurodiversity in some cases isn’t an obvious disability (for want of a better turn of phrase). Would you glaze over if you saw someone in a wheelchair or other aid?
You wouldn’t be saying this if you had to fight tooth and nail to get your child a diagnosis so that no one labels him as naughty! (Even people in the education profession! When he was three and clearly struggling with emotional dysregulation…which has been diagnosed by several professionals by the way and isn’t just me ‘going on’ about it.)

But most of the people who haven't had to fight tooth and nail for that reason will have problems of their own that will take priority over listening to people talk about neurodiversity or neurodivergence or whatever it's supposed to be called. We can't all angst over everything.

DuesToTheDirt · 01/06/2024 10:43

RaverQuavers · 31/05/2024 23:14

So why wouldn’t I want one in a toilet next to me?

Because men (including trans women) are the ones who stick phones under gaps to film women on the loo, leave cameras in cubicles, wank when they hear a woman peeing next to them, pee in a cubicle with the door open. If you're really unlucky you might get sexually assaulted in the common areas.

Women don't do this.

TheGoldSnake · 01/06/2024 10:43

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annaak · 01/06/2024 10:44

The environment, single sex spaces, things that happen in countries half way around the world that I’m never going to visit, free school meals, homeless people, the conversation around “mental health”…

If being totally honest I don’t care about anything that doesn’t directly affect me or my loved ones. In public I pretend I do because I live amongst a lot of bleeding heart liberals, but I have developed an “I’m all right Jack” attitude to life and I’m much, much happier and more content than I ever was when I cared about things that happened in the world. Riddle me that! I live a very happy life being fairly ignorant and very selfish.

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