DP called me a middle class racist

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Just now. Discussing the upcoming election. Both always voted labour. I said I’m voting Tory in the upcoming GE for a multitude of reasons, some of which come under the bracket of gender identity, kids sex ed, general tightening of illegal immigration, not taxing private schools. I explained you kind of just have to vote for the party that most aligns with your beliefs as you’re never going to agree with all of them (I don’t agree with a lot of Tory policies, but the ones that are important to me are relevant)

DP then jokes “So you’re a middle class racist now!” Then says only joking. DP will be voting labour.

Aibu to think this is quite out of order?

edited for typo!

I have tried but cannot understand people voting for the Tories. They have ruined everything good about this country. The current government are fraudulent liars with blood on their hands over Covid. And your voting for them to cover your arse on private school fees? Your future health care will cost you a lot more than a proposed tax in the future on schools

What about those of us who don’t support any of the parties currently out there? I won’t vote Tory this time - did last time but I don’t think they’re delivering on what they promised us. And seeing the far left in the Labour Party circling like hyenas already this week, I honestly couldn’t see myself voting them in either. I just wish there was a party out there which represents me, but there isn’t.

You see, that reply to OP is the real racism.

1. Viewing her as an immigrant, when it was her grandparents who emigrated here (assume, unless her parents moved abroad and then back here, that she's British).
2. What does her grandparents being immigrants have to do with her having valid concerns about the handling of mass immigration and the impact on less advantaged communities?
3. Your post implies you think 'all immigrants are the same'. They're not. They're, like everyone else, individuals.

Issues around mass immigration are no different to issues regularly raised on here around regional within-UK 'blow-ins'.

Absolutely there's no justification for hate towards 'someone not from here' (whether from abroad or within-UK 'blow-in') but that bigotry is not the same as discussing the issues and impacts and looking for compassionate but reasonable solutions.

This will be because of whichever ghastly company it’s been outsourced to. I’m afraid the biggest invisible failure of the last 14 years of Tory government was its failure to repeal the constitutional changes Blair made, which took key decision making powers away from our elected members of parliament into the hands of unelected quangos and private companies with government contracts. E.g. inflation is not just a mathematical, fiscal or economic decision that’s should be decided by unaccountable central bankers. It is a deeply political decision which has real impacts in the lives of the electorate. This is what led to Blair being accused of running a sofa government, because he sidelined Parliament from the running of the country.

I don’t disagree. I just don’t think the answer is another 5 years of the Tories. But that’s my opinion.

You would potentially base your vote on tax brackets? Really? There is shallow, and there is this. Surely you can see that living in a more just society is more important than £100 extra a year?

Why does a lifelong Labour voter care that a few very privileged families will have to pay a bit of tax on their kids' school fees?

You do know, don't you, that the Tories have done very little to deal with illegal immigration, and that what they are targeting is perfectly legal immigration by refugees? As someone whose family has benefited from migration, why do you want people fleeing nightmare conditions in their own countries not to benefit?

If you are feminist, why do you want to vote for the party that made it easier to benefit from the GRA and which has consistently made life harder for women?

And why is that…

begins with B and ends in rexit

Sounds more lower-middle class to me, as most Tory voters are: like someone who feels they've reached an ok position and don't care about those left behind. So not middle class.

Even Boris agreed there was. Although as a consistent liar what does that mean?

It's one of the words people think they can use to appear morally superior.

Not voting Tory does make one morally superior to someone who does

Basic facts unfortunately

And which groups make it impossible to control it?

@Livelovebehappy

But that’s not what we are getting. We’re getting mostly young men with no skills and no family, who can’t speak the language. I’m all for immigration, but people who have something to offer. It would be great to go with the points system like Australia and Canada. Then we can get skilled people, with families, here”

Well of course we are. Who would you send? Granny and grandad, young mum with the kids? Obviously not.

If the family manages to pull together the funds to send anyone, of course it will be the fit, young man who has more chance of getting to the UK than anyone else.
once they’re here, have put their asylum claim in and established a life, their family can follow. It’s really not difficult to understand.

He did not admit to "partying" he said there was a gathering of his staff who provided a cake on his birthday. I am no fan of Johnson or the Tories, but there was no partying

@Livelovebehappy What about those of us who don’t support any of the parties currently out there? I won’t vote Tory this time - did last time but I don’t think they’re delivering on what they promised us. And seeing the far left in the Labour Party circling like hyenas already this week, I honestly couldn’t see myself voting them in either. I just wish there was a party out there which represents me, but there isn’t.

Sometimes, especially when choices seem equally poor, it can be worth voting on a local constituency basis rather than national party basis. Obviously that relies on you having at least one good local candidate (whichever party) but it's one option to consider.

this.
Seriously op you can’t be serious voting Tory at this point. I despair!!!

What do you mean control it?

This government takes 18x longer to process asylum claims than any other western nation. This leads to the issues we are seeing currently. Instead of you know, sorting their shit out they instead placate the ham faced population by saying they’ll ship everyone off to Rwanda.

Ignoring the fact that it costs more per person to ship them off and pay to house them in Rwanda compared to them being housed temporarily here until their case is reviewed

Nothing to do with Brexit. We can set our own rules on immigration - a points system would be great. Then we can bring in people to fill gaps in the employment market. I want tighter borders, and a stop to illegal immigration.

@Justcallmebebes
He did not admit to "partying" he said there was a gathering of his staff who provided a cake on his birthday. I am no fan of Johnson or the Tories, but there was no partying”.

You’ve not seen the - widely available - filmed evidence of the parties, then?

it has everything to do with Brexit

Its a bit sad you don’t understand it tbh

No parties…

I think suffering with limited understanding is a prerequisite for those who vote Tory

YABU for voting for the tories on the basis of GI. That is not a good enough reason

You are right.

Labour have mo plan for border control or immigration at all, the conservatives are at least trying their best. And without some control our infrastructure is going to collapse, and we already have a severe housing shortage due to the influx of Afghan, HK and Ukrainian families - people in genuine need at the time - we simply can not accept economic migrants by the 100s of thousands as well.

Don’t get me started on the spiteful policy of taxing schools that will do nothing to create an equal society, and will only make things worse.

Labour WILL unwind all the progress on women’s rights and we will be back to the start with trans activism.

I agree with you wholeheartedly. I couldn’t accept my dh ever calling me a racist, was it supposed to be a joke??