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To push ds into claiming

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Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 16:44

Ds has just finished uni and never worked through me and ex dp give him £450 a month between us plus I've always bought him the odd thing and gave a bit extra here and there.
Me and his dad are seperated and his dads just received notification that he will now be charged full council tax as ds has finished uni I'm under strain financially. I've told ds he needs to claim universal credit until he finds a job but he keeps saying I want my results first. Am I wrong in pushing him to claim to take some pressure off me and dp. Fwiw he would get around £370 per month as living at home.

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Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 18:24

Mammyloveswine · 31/05/2024 17:54

Why hasn't he been working through uni?! Christ when I was at school we all got Saturday jobs in the last year (aged 15/16) then all worked in the local supermarket whilst doing a levels then all had bar jobs at uni!!

Universal credit is not for the work shy, it's to support those that actually need it!

The absolute entitlement!!

He isn't work shy

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Mammyloveswine · 31/05/2024 18:24

@Lacky301 why isn't he getting any casual job then to tide him over,?

Snugglemonkey · 31/05/2024 18:25

Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 17:23

I'll say it again I agree he needs a job but I've seen people applying for all of the jobs mentioned and not get a single response.

People? Or him?

titchy · 31/05/2024 18:28

If he is living in his uni accommodation till August why is your ex's council tax changing now?

FWIW we funded our dcs till the end of June of their final year so they could have a bit of down time after they'd finished uni. One then got a job, one lived on student overdraft for a few months!

TeaKitten · 31/05/2024 18:28

Mockingjay123 · 31/05/2024 18:23

No there was no point as I had a job lined up. I just applied for a job with a start date that meant I had a break first. Funded by my boyfriend at the time ( still together 25 years later). Having a short break after studying for years doesn’t mean you’re lazy is the point I was making.

I agree it’s not lazy, it’s likely the only time he will get to do it. I just disagree with his mum trying to push him onto benefits to fund it.

Itloggedmeoutagain · 31/05/2024 18:29

Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 16:51

He wants to use up the rest of his accommodation which he has until August then come home properly.

Can't he get a bar job where his accommodation is?
Agency work in a warehouse?
Call centre work?

Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 18:29

Mockingjay123 · 31/05/2024 18:19

Are you new to this site? There was only one way this thread was going to go 🤣. Personally, I wouldn’t push my DCs into hospitality jobs - there’s a reason people just walk into those jobs and it isn’t a good one. Fingers crossed he finds something soon. I had a couple of months off when I finished uni many years ago. I’ve worked full time since and am not lazy, work shy or any of those things. I just wanted a short break before starting 40 odd years of work.

Well I'm guessing ds may want some time out after concentrating on his studies for such a long time but in doing that it appears he's earned lazy arse title

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titchy · 31/05/2024 18:29

Strictlymad · 31/05/2024 17:03

No he shouldn’t be applying for uc, he should be applying for job seekers allowance. And treat job hunting like a full time job, shop, bar, pot washing at restaurant. Not sitting about waiting for results. Fwiw when he applies for his degree job the prospective employer will like that that he’s made use of the time, not sat waiting.

UC is job seekers....

CornishTiger · 31/05/2024 18:30

He needs to get a job - any job but yes he can claim UC. Only from the official term end date though as they’ll take his Student income into account until then.

amijustbeingsuspicious · 31/05/2024 18:30

peachyqueens · 31/05/2024 18:00

Now that's just not true, is it? I'm a hospitality manager and every summer/Christmas we have a fresh recruitment drive for seasonal workers, as well as rehiring students coming home from uni!

This it’s utter bollocks there are SO MANY summer jobs for students

amijustbeingsuspicious · 31/05/2024 18:31

Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 18:29

Well I'm guessing ds may want some time out after concentrating on his studies for such a long time but in doing that it appears he's earned lazy arse title

“Wanting time out” isn’t what benefits are for.

need money = work.

or you continue to support him. I don’t see why the taxpayer has to.

Goldengirl123 · 31/05/2024 18:31

I’ve heard it all now!

Hairyfairy01 · 31/05/2024 18:32

I do mean this kindly OP, but is he due to pass his degree? Have you asked him? He should have a pretty good idea what classification of degree he should be getting by now?

OriginalUsername2 · 31/05/2024 18:33

You may have some concerns about claiming welfare benefits, but you shouldn’t feel bad about claiming Universal Credit or Job Seekers Allowance. As a graduate, these benefits are in place to help you transition from full-time study to work, even if you are living at home or have job lined up in a few weeks. This is an important safety net, which you should claim just in case anything changes. If you meet the eligibility criteria below you should claim from the day after your official course end date.

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Jobseeker's Allowance (JSA)

Jobseeker's Allowance (JSA) is an unemployment benefit you can claim while looking for work - how to apply online, New Style Jobseeker's Allowance (JSA), eligibility, rates, rapid reclaim, JSA interview, when payment can be stopped

https://www.gov.uk/jobseekers-allowance

ilovesooty · 31/05/2024 18:35

OriginalUsername2 · 31/05/2024 18:33

You may have some concerns about claiming welfare benefits, but you shouldn’t feel bad about claiming Universal Credit or Job Seekers Allowance. As a graduate, these benefits are in place to help you transition from full-time study to work, even if you are living at home or have job lined up in a few weeks. This is an important safety net, which you should claim just in case anything changes. If you meet the eligibility criteria below you should claim from the day after your official course end date.

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But he isn't transitioning and hasn't got a job lined up yet.

cherryade8 · 31/05/2024 18:36

Surely he isn't entitled to handouts? He's capable of working but hasn't bothered.

Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 18:36

OriginalUsername2 · 31/05/2024 18:33

You may have some concerns about claiming welfare benefits, but you shouldn’t feel bad about claiming Universal Credit or Job Seekers Allowance. As a graduate, these benefits are in place to help you transition from full-time study to work, even if you are living at home or have job lined up in a few weeks. This is an important safety net, which you should claim just in case anything changes. If you meet the eligibility criteria below you should claim from the day after your official course end date.

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I have seen this and was going to attach it but I'd be wasting my time lol

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thesandwich · 31/05/2024 18:37

He will have to pay council tax on this student accom very soon, as no longer a student.
I suggest he puts together a cv- loads of advice online, reed, gradcracker, ucas etc and gets chatgpt to adapt it for retail / hospitality roles, print it out and take copies to local bars, cafes and shops personally independent especially, asking to speak to whoever recruits. Uni careers service may have local leads.
agencies may have casual warehouse etc roles.
Doing nothing will hinder his ability to get a grad job- his degree may get him through the initial sift but his transferable skills will be vital.

Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 18:38

ilovesooty · 31/05/2024 18:35

But he isn't transitioning and hasn't got a job lined up yet.

He is as he would be looking for a job whilst in receipt

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Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 18:39

That link says don't feel bad but mumsnet will

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amijustbeingsuspicious · 31/05/2024 18:41

Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 18:39

That link says don't feel bad but mumsnet will

Why did you ask MN as you don’t think it’s wrong?

EarringsandLipstick · 31/05/2024 18:43

Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 18:39

That link says don't feel bad but mumsnet will

Talk about taking something out of context.

If you are a young person at uni / finishing up, there's really no reason not to get a job

It's nuts to say that he couldn't find a job during uni holidays. The whole nature of holiday jobs is to cover seasonal demand so it's silly to say employers only want someone who'll stay around after the summer.

You are doing him no favours trying to make excuses for him not working.

In terms of graduate roles, of course he should have had a plan before finishing uni.

spuddy4 · 31/05/2024 18:44

Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 18:39

That link says don't feel bad but mumsnet will

MN is saying that he needs to take any job right now and not bum around waiting for his results whilst the taxpayer keeps him.

He's never going to find a job when you make excuses for him and you've done it over and over on this thread. He's perfectly capable of taking any job until he finds one in his field but you seem to think he deserves a break which is fine, but don't expect the rest of us to fund it.

Lacky301 · 31/05/2024 18:44

Look people may have thier opinions but the critism of my parenting is not on is it?
If posters had of come on and said better he doesn't enter into the benefit system and just tried to find employment whilst we carry on helping him that would have been okay it just takes a bit of kindness and not for people to be labelling me and ds.

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EarringsandLipstick · 31/05/2024 18:46

Exactly @spuddy4

It's fine if he decides he wants to take a week or two off. I used to go abroad in the summer holidays, line up a job & have one week to relax & settle in, then work really hard for the summer.

I sometimes had to take out loans to go abroad, which I'd then pay back after the summer.