To not see how the gov will make any money from taxing private schools?

[AngryHedgehog]

All the other threads seem to have descended into bunfighting over the ethics of the policy, yet I'm not really understanding how this stands to benefit the government as surely they'll be footing the bill for all the kids that move to state schools?

As a disclaimer, I don't have kids and wouldn't be able to afford to privately educate them even if I did, despite earning a half decent salary.

I'm reading that it costs around £7k per pupil per term, so it would take the VAT from around four families to fund each additional child moving to state education.

Given that this may be 4/10 kids in private education moving to state schooling, I don't see how this doesn't create a net loss as there will only be 50% more kids left in private education and there needs to be multiple times that for the VAT increase to foot the bill.

Surely I'm missing something here?

Even if 20-30% quit private education - which is probably the absolute maximum that will occur even mid-ling term (despite the selfinterested private school funded surveys) then it will still be a net benefit finances wise to state education.

And the reality is that many if not most private schools will likely absorb at least some of the cost themselves by making cuts. And so the majority, even vast majority of parents, will continue anyway. People who value private education to the relatively huge amounts of 15k or 20k a year are not going to leave because from next year they will have to pay 17k or 23k (for example).

It’s a sensible policy, fiscally as well as morally.

For now.

Starmer refuses to come to the table about it though. SNJ and other interest groups have called him about this.

Why do people like you keep saying ‘are you Tory HQ?’ Do you think you are being clever?. You aren’t the only one to spout these cliches. Along with the Tarquin tropes.

A Labour government may be coming to power (I have no kids at private school and will vote Labour). But for private school parents, the 20% increase is becoming real. Hence the number of threads on it. It’s as simple as that. If I had kids at private school, I would probably be posting too.

Not every politically-related topic you disagree with between now and the election is planted by the government you know? The accusations are very dull.

I imagine because that even with 1:1 or 2:1 the needs could not be met so a specialist independent was needed.

But they're private schools and therefore the VAT rise applies.

What is the point in a school accepting your child if they know they can not meet your childs needs.

The point is my disabled child is not lesser than yours. You believe that private schools shouldn't exist?

Well then, my child must have a state school place and much more than funding is required.

This is why Starmer is a big old silly sausage.

Yes, it does. Labour want to remove private schools charitable status.

You’ve got to wonder what a state this country is in to tax education. As if everything else is not heavily taxed already. Why do people want to continue living in this country? What has it actually got going for it? It lacks ambition.

It has lacked ambition to level up and ensure equality under Tory rule but hopefully that will change under a labour government.

@SpudleyLass I have not said private schools should not exist. Simply that they should pay vat.
And you legally will be offered a place to a state school.

They won't take places in the best schools because they will be full.The Spaces,will be in the sink schools!

A school that likely will resent having her - she is non verbal, doubly incontinent, epileptic.

Its not just a funding issue - many schools struggle to hire TAs, let aloe TAs experience in SEn

And why should she move school where she is settled?

Doubt that very much.

No they will be section 41 approved specialist private schools and exempt

Not to mention, piggish mainstream schools will ALWAYS find a reason to reject disable children.

If Starmer wins, I promise you I will always vote against Labour. The cunt's school turned to private whilst he was there but HIS fees where waived for many years.

Steaming hypocrite!

People can apply at natural break points

I think you underestimate how invested in education ex private school parents will be. They don’t usually end up in sink schools, hence the name.

For an indication look at current competition around the best state currently and add on to that

@SpudleyLass you can keep her in a private school, no one is saying anything else.

I don't believe Labour.

Exactly this! This issue is not as black and white as people like to think. Private schools don’t just serve the upper class.

Until Starmer decides its unfair for the state to fund certain children.

@SpudleyLass you are right that benefits can change at any time under any government. But there are no proposals to do this.

What are you talking about?

I fought 2 years to even have a school accept her.

Fuck Labour. I'm not going into that uncertainty again.

Your tax money funds my daughter's private education, lol