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Shamed for formula feeding

147 replies

Gemmy96 · 30/05/2024 07:29

I exclusively formula feed my child as I literally do not produce breast milk-- at all. None, not a hint of it. I tried for days after my child was born but ultimately realised I was missing out on making memories while I was attached to a pump and decided exclusive formula feeding was best for the whole family.

MIL and certain other family members know this and still put pressure on me to go to breastfeeding groups like la leche even though I've made it clear that I'm not interested. I'm being sent articles and videos about why breastfeeding is a better choice (let's pretend it's always a choice!) than formula feeding. I'm getting rude comments when I mention how much formula my child is drinking per feed.

I don't think IBU for formula feeding, but I think I might be overreacting to their behaviour. AIBU given that these people might just be concerned about what's best for my child?

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Chocolateorange22 · 30/05/2024 19:16

Honestly take them out for lunch and then whilst you are waiting point at every adult and ask the in-laws if that adult was breastfed or formula fed. Watch them squirm and then ask why does it concern them to talk about your body parts as if they are public property?

DotDashDot24 · 30/05/2024 19:18

wet nurses were to do with societal views on women breastfeeding, rather than an actual need.

That's actually bollocks.

I don't even want to get into what happened when mothers couldn't produce enough and couldn't access wet nurses.

LondonFox · 30/05/2024 19:48

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Support?
I was pestered by maternity midwifes and by visiting midwifes at home about benefits of breastfeeding although at thst point I told them clearly that I feed with a mix of expressed milk and formula.
You know what maternity midwife did?
Squashed my first babies head against my boob and did not let go as "baby will start eating that way".
My baby was frantically trying to get out of her grip and get some air.
She did not back off after I told her to let him go so I had to push her to jump out of that bed curtain you have.
Cow never returned tho 😏

catlady7 · 30/05/2024 20:05

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Notthatcatagain · 30/05/2024 23:16

LoftyTurtle · 30/05/2024 10:06

Your decision on how to feed, FF, BF, mixed, whatever, is yours and yours alone, and anyone who judges you for it isn't worth your time OP

However, I do think it is a bit sad that there are already two different women on this thread stating that they had to stop BFing as they didn't produce any milk for the first 2 days PP. This is completely, absolutely biologically normal for humans. Human milk may "come in" anywhere from 2 days PP to 4 or 5 days PP, all completely normal variations. I do not think its sad these women didn't BF, as you need to do whatever is best for you, but rather that it's sad you weren't given the support and education by the NHS to recognise that not producing mature milk at 2 days PP is absolutely fine and isn't necessarily an indication that you can't or won't produce mature milk later on. If the NHS allegedly wants to support increasing BF rates they need to support women better in the early postnatal period, who want to BF but are worried why their milk hasn't come in yet, will their baby starve until their milk does come in etc. Of course there is every possibility a woman whose milk hasn't come in at 2 days PP does genuinely have no or very limited capability to produce milk, but this is extremely rare, and far more often the case is there is nothing actually wrong other the woman being mistakenly being told that not producing milk in the early PP period is abnormal

I tried for 3 weeks until baby and I were beside ourselves with misery and it got no better at all. She inhaled that first bottle while I sobbed with shame for starving her. After the first few days my milk gradually disappeared. After my first baby I had milk for 27 days, then I menstruated and the milk had gone within the week. We don't all have textbook bodies

RenaissanceBaby · 30/05/2024 23:25

Eliffant · 30/05/2024 14:17

Sorry to somewhat hijack the post, but how did you get IGT confirmed? I haven't been able to breastfeed my baby because she lost too much weight to start with and it may have been due to IGT (or a combination of things) but once we started on the formula I couldn't get anyone to care why baby hadn't got enough milk to start with. If we have any more children in future I'd like to know if breastfeeding is just not an option for me.

I pushed for a breast clinic referral after my first when preparing for our second pregnancy. If I’m honest, other than the ultrasound scan confirming my minimal glandular tissue it wasn’t that helpful - the nurse consultant running the clinic hadn’t heard of IGT and didn’t really appreciate my concerns.

I got as far as initial conversations with hearts milk bank re donor milk, but then Covid hit and that was the end of that. I’d have considered human milk for human babies but I was concerned re hygiene and uncertainty of supply. My son ended up losing even more weight than my daughter and as soon as we gave him formula at day 5, passed a load of meconium that had been sitting in his gut since birth. He was getting nothing from me. At no point did midwives suggest formula - I dread to think what would have happened if we’d listened.

RenaissanceBaby · 30/05/2024 23:30

Also, I had pretty much all the physical markers for it:
-Wide set pointy boobs with no fullness - stopped growing at 13 and didn’t develop further
-Stretchmarks on boobs in absence of growth
-No breast changes in pregnancy
-No letdown
-No engorgement
-Puffy areolae

Not great really. I detest my pointless boobs and just wish there was more awareness and understanding of the condition.

MariaVT65 · 30/05/2024 23:54

These family members should be blocked until they start behaving.

Can’t believe some of the gaslighting bellends on this thread as well.

I couldn’t produce enough colostrum for DC1, he never ever latched despite best efforts, and i couldn’t produce nearly enough milk through pumping.

I decided not to even try with DC2. I did spend hours and days before the birth trying to express colostrum. It only satisfied half of her first feed. She was starving. We’re all happy on formula. I have to say also that many of my friends’ kids who were breastfed are constantly ill, so i’ sceptical of benefits.

Lollypop701 · 31/05/2024 00:05

We are so lucky we can support our babies. We have healthy children . nothing else matters.

please don’t allow anyone tell you, or believe, that anything other than fed is not a total success . Motherhood is hard enough without seeking perfection .

ffs Whose definition of perfection are we holding ourselves up to???? And do they really matter as you look into the eyes of your happy, fed baby

catlady7 · 31/05/2024 04:58

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My mention of gaslighting was not in reference to benefits of bf vs ff. It was in reference to the downplaying of lack of supply, claiming it’s rare etc.

rizzolizzo · 31/05/2024 06:55

Sorry this is happening to you.

I had the same experience and remember desperately pumping and being told by midwives that my "milk will come in tomorrow" for weeks and weeks. It ruined the beginning of my maternity leave.

What's best for your child is that (a) they are fed and (b) you are happy, healthy and able to care for them. That's formula feeding for many of us.

I'd cut contact with them if possible. At least for a while.

The "good" news is that when baby starts solids there will be all other kinds of pressures about their eating habits (purees, solids, baby-led weaning, bottles, nutrients, iron levels, fish, etc etc) and the BF/FF decision will be totally forgotten!

Eliffant · 31/05/2024 07:24

RenaissanceBaby · 30/05/2024 23:25

I pushed for a breast clinic referral after my first when preparing for our second pregnancy. If I’m honest, other than the ultrasound scan confirming my minimal glandular tissue it wasn’t that helpful - the nurse consultant running the clinic hadn’t heard of IGT and didn’t really appreciate my concerns.

I got as far as initial conversations with hearts milk bank re donor milk, but then Covid hit and that was the end of that. I’d have considered human milk for human babies but I was concerned re hygiene and uncertainty of supply. My son ended up losing even more weight than my daughter and as soon as we gave him formula at day 5, passed a load of meconium that had been sitting in his gut since birth. He was getting nothing from me. At no point did midwives suggest formula - I dread to think what would have happened if we’d listened.

Thanks. I'll push for an ultrasound if we're lucky enough to have a second pregnancy. I have some markers but not all. I just want to know, if we have a second, whether I should get support and go all guns blazing to try and breastfeed or accept that it's never going to work for me. At least next time I'll be prepared rather than believing the NHS "everyone can breastfeed" lie!

NDmumoftwo · 31/05/2024 07:35

When you look into the benefits of breastfeeding... I mean REALLY look into it, it's just a pile of crap with people quoting things like nipple confusion at each other for so long it becomes and accepted truth.
Look up an organisation called infant feeding alliance on twitter - a group of mums and medics. They are brilliant.
When people sent me / suggested stuff like that I'd (perhaps childishly) say oh I've been meaning to say , here's a number for my hairdresser when they were like "huh why?" I'd say "oh I'm sorry I thought we were giving each other unsolicited advice".

Chunkychips23 · 31/05/2024 07:38

I’ve had the reverse from my in-laws. I breastfeed and had the first 4 months being harassed and hounded to bully me into formula feeding because that’s what they felt was the best choice.

It appears no matter what choice you make for you and your child, if it’s different to what other people have done, there’s a problem.

Your body, your baby, your choice. You’re the mother and doing what is right for you and your child.

Let them see how you and your little one are thriving be the only answer they’re going to get. Just don’t respond to those messages and let your partner deal with his family.

PacoJazz · 31/05/2024 07:59

Don't let anyone bully you like this especially while you're postpartum.

catlady7 · 31/05/2024 08:04

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ThirtySomethingMum00 · 31/05/2024 08:04

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Is this Cowlover87 under a different name again? The person who turns up on every thread related to formula or breastfeeding and does nothing but shame everyone. I suspect it is you.

MariaVT65 · 31/05/2024 08:11

ThirtySomethingMum00 · 31/05/2024 08:04

Is this Cowlover87 under a different name again? The person who turns up on every thread related to formula or breastfeeding and does nothing but shame everyone. I suspect it is you.

Ah yes you’re right. I’ve just read back through her other posts on this thread and she talks/spells in exactly the same way as cowlover. I’ll report as I believe she is banned.

WellExactly2 · 31/05/2024 11:48

I recognised her too 😅

TamD71 · 31/05/2024 12:32

"Give up" is such inflammatory language and said from a place of ignorance. My personal experience was my uterus hemorrhaging, EMCS, blood transfusions, sepsis, ICU and not getting to hold baby for days...in addition to inverted nipples and sod all breast growth. She never latched once and no colostrum despite midwifes trying to express. I swear I wasn't made to produce babies!! Even with my planned c section, when baby latched, nothing was coming out- my nipples scabbed over and got infected so I expressed for 4 months and the most I got in a whole day was 1 oz. I've just got rubbish boobs....but at least I'm not a judgmental gas lighter so I won't lose any sleep over that!

LolaJ87 · 31/05/2024 12:47

I have to agree, I do not like people saying "give up" like women just couldn't be bothered.

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