Is it a foregone conclusion now that labour will win?

[hangerba]

That’s it really…

Yes they do have mandatory voting in Australia and I wish we had it here. But they do have the option of non of the above as well sonyou can literally vote for no-one. But it should be compulsory to turn out I think.

I am certainly one who is uncomfortable with how ruthless Starmer has been to those more on the left in his party but will still vote Labour as appalled at idea of another Conservative govt.

I disagree. Labour will win this election by people switching from Cons to Lab. Most of those switchers will loathe Diane Abbott.

I hope so.

Getting rid of her will give more comfort to the floating voters than it will upset labour voters, because even if the La our loyalists are not happy, who else are they realistically going to vote for?

It’s actually quite a savvy move. Same with that Brighton guy where they’ve just found a convenient allegation from 8 years ago to skewer him with. Et tu Brutus indeed !!

It's savvy re DA but they should have done it sooner. AR just needs a Malcolm Tucker type in her tail, but it doesn't seem to have happened yet.

It's frustrating watching Starmer fudge everything. I remember being a big fan of his Guardian column 20+ years ago as an undergrad. He was so incisive and efficient then.

Nope. I was having this conversation with partner tonight.
I don't think they'll win a majority government.
He said the polls have never been so much in labours favour.
I said the polls don't take into account the older generation who don't use the internet and all the oldies who will out to vote Tory if it's the only thing they do all year?! (disclaimer: I know not all older people vote Tory 😆).
It's partners birthday 2 days before and he thinks his birthday present is going to be labour getting in.
I think he's going to be sorely disappointed, I hope I'm wrong!
I genuinely don't think I'll see a labour majority in my lifetime. People are too thick, scared and selfish and believe the right wing media. There are closet Tories everywhere.
Btw I'm 39 and very left.

Going into the Autumn Statement and the winter months is a terrible time for the Tories to seek an uplift in votes though. COL is higher, the NHS is entering its annual crisis mode and less people in older demographics vote in winter.

Yes I can see that re voting turnout and hefty dual fuel bills, but I'm still surprised Rishi grasped the nettle while the polls are so dire. It's not like a Tory PM to be clear eyed and pragmatic enough to think "well the polls will only get worse".

Maybe I'm wrong but I'm antsy.

Is this another school fees thread

Has Sunak actually said he plans to move to the states because the only place I've heard that is as a rumour on mumsnet !!

Not yet but give it time.

No, he’s denying it. Which means he’s booked the flights.

After the 2015 polling fiasco they are conducted with much better quality now though.

Has Sunak actually said he plans to move to the states because the only place I've heard that is as a rumour on mumsnet !!

He and his wife have been keeping their green cards warm. The broadsheets reported on it. Presumably they have a use for green cards or they would not bother.

So PP might be right on that.

Strictly speaking it's mandatory to get your name crossed off the list. Once that's done you can vote, or not, as you please. I have been spoiling my ballot for years. Fortunately we also have preferential voting, so there's a bit more incentive when both Liberal and Labor are rubbish.

The polls aren’t conducted online and Labour’s 7 points ahead of the Tories in the over 65 age group.

That's more reassuring although 7 points isn't that much.

Sadly no, we don't have "none of the above" as an option. Wish we did!

There’s a lot of disenchanted Tory voters turning to Reform. You have to realise too that a lot of true blue Tory voters, might be turning away from them, but would rather stick pins in their eyes than vote Labour. So Reform will be their go to party. This will mean that the Tory vote will be split, but it will also stop their votes going to Labour, so Labour might not get the landslide they’re hoping for. Labour are going to have to navigate a lot of potential issues in the lead up to the GE ie, if there are divisions forming between the far left MPs and Starmer, it’s going to make the ‘not yet decided’ voters feel nervous, and they’ll back off. The Abbott situation is doing the party no favours.

AKA the Democracy Sausage. There is even a website with a clickable map showing which polling booths have them, along with other offerings like bake sales. Sadly they aren't usually free though.

This is my concern too.

😂So it is just a MN rumour after all !!

Nothing is guaranteed and people should not be complacent

The tories will be obliterated! My children who all come from a MC background absolutely hate the Tories . They hate the racism and Brexit finished them off.
Two children are not now at home and have applied for postal votes!!

Indeed.

It made it onto HIGNFY so not just mumsnet

This 👆 @BloodyHellKenAgain @BIossomtoes

It's been widely reported in the broadsheets, and private eye.

Do you have postal voting?