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AIBU to date a man that my close friend has dated?

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Bertiebellender · 29/05/2024 01:30

My close friend and I (We’ll call her Amy) are both single. We have been for a couple years!
She is actively and regularly dating. Currently seeing someone now, but these things tend to be short lived.
She tends to take an approach of throwing herself into dating, to get to know people.
I on the other hand rarely date unless I see something special in a man.

The man in question (let’s call him Daniel) is on the periphery of our social circles.
My friend bonded with him at a party that I couldn’t attend at the beginning of the year.
Shortly after the party Daniel went away for a
month with work. The company he works for were setting up business abroad.
Amy and Daniel would text and call often. Making arrangements to meet when he got back.
There was nothing physical between them. But they shared a lot of personal stuff and bonded over similar experiences. As well as all the normal flirting.
Amy really liked him and wanted to see where things could go.
Daniel on the other hand felt he wasn’t in the right place to be dating and didn’t want to ruin the friendship.
I don’t think that they actually went on a date. Just a couple of months max of calls and texts.
They remained in contact as friends, albeit sporadic. She has seen him in person since but with another friend at a gig.
Amy was very upset at the time, having become really close, emotionally.

I have ran into Daniel a handful of times. Previously I would have just been polite, as an acquaintance, didn’t really know him to spend time chatting.

But since the situation with Amy I’ve been friendly with him, as we both have Amy in common.
We recently ended up on the same train together for an hour chatting about various topics.
I felt that I’d really warmed to him. We messaged a few times since (fb messenger, we haven’t swapped numbers), nothing major but I was feeling interested in him as a person.
He’s just asked me out on a date.
I feel like he could be a good match in terms of values and interests, I like his sense of humour and he’s easy to talk to.
I think he’s attractive.
He ticks a lot of boxes and seems like a good person.
I’ve met many of Amy’s dates in the past.
Friendly but platonic with most.
The occasional one has shown an interest
but it was one sided, I’ve never considered it.
This is different, I feel differently about this man.

a) My friend is kind and will tell me it’s fine. But I think she will still be hurt.
Therefore I’m stupid to even consider this.
And should reject him for “dating” my friend first.

b) I rarely feel like I want to date anyone.
I feel like Amy will have dated most single men our age in our local area, that I will struggle to find anyone to date who she hasn’t previously dated.
This scenario was inevitable at some point and I should just speak to my friend first before I accept a date.

I can’t sleep and need some perspective on this.
AIBU to consider this at all?
Would you be upset if you were in Amy’s position?

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RacketsAndRounders · 29/05/2024 20:19

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ShinyPebble32 · 03/06/2024 16:07

’’My friend is kind and will tell me it’s fine. But I think she will still be hurt.’’

For me, that’s your answer. I wouldn’t want to risk hurting my friend. Also, I’d feel a bit weird dating someone my friend had sexted. What if you end up serious and doing joint activities with her in the future - wouldn’t that play on your mind?

Also I’m struggling to envisage what kind of community you live in where you seem so sure that your friend has dated every eligible man - do you live in the outer Hebrides or something? If internet dating could you just set your search area wider or something? I know so many people who’ve met partners in different areas - if the connection is there you find a way for it to work out!

Sceptical123 · 09/01/2025 08:08

LadyMinerva · 29/05/2024 02:34

Depends on how much you value your friendship with Amy. I would talk to her about it first and read her reaction rather than just hear her words.

If you think she is uncomfortable with it then you'll need to decide if it's worth losing your friendship with her over.

In my experience, 9 times out of 10 it's not worth choosing a man over a friend.

This. I wouldn’t go on any dates first if you want to remain friends with her or keep the friendship as it is, as she won’t trust you. You know she had/has strong feelings for him but was rejected. That’s not your fault but presumably she cried on your shoulder, figuratively if not literally, and you comforted her. To then go on a date/dates behind her back (that’s what you’d be doing if you deliberately don’t tell her) will alter her perception of you and your relationship with her. She’d be feeling that even though you know how much pain her feelings towards Daniel were or are, you’re putting yourself and his interests first, even though you’ve known her longer and it sounds like you have a strong bond. It will clarify what a lot of ppl don’t like to think about, that is, that given the choice between a friend and a potential partner, a lot of ppl would opt for a partner, as it entails more benefit to them, to put it clinically.

You have to decide whether it’s worth the risk - a long term relationship, potential family, security - over the love, strong friendship and support of a close friend. She’ll have thought she had your support (and loyalty) but this is where the murky waters of friendship vs relationships begin. You’d be gambling on this potential relationship working out and could lose the friendship and all the positives that entails. You don’t have to look very far in the relationships section of this forum to see that a lot of women are upset they don’t have many, if any real friends - they’re viewed by many as precious and worth their weight in gold.

On the other hand your friend may already be lining up her next dates and be over it by now - altho if I were in her position I’d also be wanting to try and get over the heartbreak - it’s called rebounding- which can lead to awful results as your standards perhaps lower to replace the object of your affection by attempting to distract yourself with someone you might previously not consider .

Just think of it this way - if you and Daniel went out on a few ‘secret’ dates, then decided to make it official - how do you think your friend will respond? If she’s nice and puts others first she will outwardly be happy for you but inside you can be guaranteed her heart will be breaking that two ppl she cared about are hurting her like this. People, especially women can be very good at masking their emotions. Whenever you attend social meet ups together she has to watch as you show your affection towards one another, if you meet up alone, you will have to withhold information about large parts of your life for fear of hurting her, or share all the fun romantic things you are doing together, knowing she will have most likely pictured doing these with him herself. How would you feel? I guess it depends on whether you’re the type of person who actually doesn’t care or even enjoys doing this to someone or not.

Ultimately you have no guarantee Daniel will treat you much better than your friend. If he hadn’t had to go away, it’s likely he and your find would also have gone on dates and perhaps further. It doesn’t guarantee it would have worked, but the potential was there - illustrated by the frequency of their communication and their flirting with one another etc.

If you go out with him your friend may withdraw and forever think of you differently and Daniel could lose interest and flit to the next woman - I guess nobody knows.

It’s all down to what and who you value more.

gannett · 09/01/2025 08:21

OP if anything I think you might be being overly mindful of Amy's feelings here. Yes, girl code is drummed into all of us and rightfully so, sisters before misters and all of that but when you find yourself checking whether men have gone on a handful of dates with Amy off the bat then it seems, for whatever reason, you're giving disproportionate prominence to her feelings in your life. And you say she hasn't given you a reason to feel like this - I presume no dramatic centre-of-attention stuff when she's not getting her own way etc - so there's a people-pleasing element in yourself you may have to work on. You're second-guessing what Amy will think and restricting yourself based on that (not on reality).

In this situation, if I was Amy I would want you to go on the date. I might well still be hurt that Daniel wasn't into me, but I'd recognise that's just part of life and it doesn't mean he's off-limit to my friends. That's how a reasonable friend would think. That might well be how Amy will react. You're afraid she'll react irrationally and nastily - I would say you should do her the honour of assuming she'll react like a normal human being.

Go on the date and put yourself first for once.

SoupDragon · 09/01/2025 08:36

ZOMBIE THREAD

This is from last May.

Carouselfish · 09/01/2025 08:43

It is a zombie thread. Wonder what happened...

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