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To think if one parent can't look after the DC, it's the other parents responsibility to do so?

431 replies

looop114 · 28/05/2024 21:41

And not their partners?

If two parents are separated and one of them becomes unwell (not just a cold but actually very poorly and unable to look after the DC kind of unwell), it should be automatically the other parents responsibility to look after the children and not the unwell parents partner or spouse?

They can if they want to obviously but the initial assumption should be that the other parent will parent their children even though its not "their time" when the other is not able to? Providing both are involved parents.

Aibu to think this is the case and that it's quite entitled to make assumptions that your co parents partner/spouse will look after your DC when the other parent is unwell intstead of you?

OP posts:
Sarkycat2 · 29/05/2024 09:05

looop114 · 28/05/2024 21:50

My husband is unwell, he was admitted to hospital a few days ago with a flu like illness causing breathing difficulties and has been unable to get out of bed before this for over a week.

During this time he's not been able to care for DSC on his usual time and obviously can't do so whilst he's in hospital. During this time I've been mithered by his ex who just assumed I would have them whilst he's unwell during the usual time. Whilst also trying to look after our children too.

I think as their mother she should have them whilst DH can't, as he has and would do if the situation was reversed. I can't ever imagine her being in hospital and my husband pestering her boyfriend to have the children instead of him. He just wouldn't. Because he's their dad. And she's their mum.

Yanbu

i wouldn’t send my child if their dad was in hospital. im guessing the mum had made plans and that’s why you’re being pressured
into still having them? Unfortunately when illness happens plans sometimes need to be cancelled and it’s not like your husband planned to be in hospital.
Hope he recovers soon.

Ohlookwhoitis · 29/05/2024 09:11

AmelieTaylor · 28/05/2024 23:03

@CwmYoy

awful mother?? Maybe, crazy idea I know, but she may have to be at work or risk losing her job??

Shame on you. I can't believe anyone has no compassion for a woman whose husband is in hospital. To then defend a mother who thinks that the woman whose husband is in hospital should look after HER kids is just absolutely shocking.

You don't care that OP has her own kids, job(possibly), no other help. How have we got to a place in society that people think their own free time is above a sick man in hospital and even their own kids?

Ohlookwhoitis · 29/05/2024 09:15

Bellsandthistle · 28/05/2024 23:30

You’re married. Of course you look after the children and not just your biological children. You shouldn’t be viewing them as not your responsibility because their dad is ill. If this is how you felt about his children you shouldn’t have married him.

Omg. So many entitled exs on this thread. How dare you demand another woman look after your DC. How fucking dare you. I would never have dreamed of putting those expectations on my exs wife.

MyOleMan · 29/05/2024 09:18

When parents break up it can be extremely hard on the kids. From then on any adult who gets involved needs to understand this is the centre point. Your attitude is transactional and shows how and why some children from divorced parents are devastated by the outcome

Ohlookwhoitis · 29/05/2024 09:20

Step parent has clearly been in their life for some time as there are half siblings but is making it clear she doesn’t think of them as “hers”

Statements like this baffle me. My stepkids are no more mine that the kids next door are. Why on earth would I think they're mine? We get on great, we spend time together but they have 2 parents to look after them and quite frankly, I don't want responsibility for them to the same level that their parents have.

Ohlookwhoitis · 29/05/2024 09:26

Meadowfinch · 29/05/2024 03:36

I'm with you OP. My dcs are my responsibility and my ex's. If he can't cover his six hours a week, it's down to me.

His new woman does not come into the equation and I would never expect her to be responsible. She is not my dcs family.

But equally, she has no input, and her views in terms of parenting are irrelevant.

Edited

Exactly. Some people on here are going on as if step-mothers have a legal responsibility to look after THEIR children. All this "You took on his children therefore step up". Absolute bullshit.

CoffeeCup14 · 29/05/2024 09:35

Thursdaygirl · 29/05/2024 07:12

I know a lot of separated parents really guard their free time away from the kids but I’ll be honest, I’ve never really understood that.

@ILoveYouItsRuiningMyLife this is so true. DH’s ex guarded her child-free time so fiercely that common sense went out the window on occasions. Of course each parent has the right to their own time, but hospitalisation is not a ‘whim’.

Good for you not being in a situation where you need to understand it.

Being a single parent can be absolutely exhausting. You can need the time for respite, and you protect it because having that time to yourself is in the best interests of your children.

MotherofChaosandDestruction · 29/05/2024 09:43

My ex is useless and cancels his days for a number of reasons and I pick up the slack because I am their mother, luckily for me I do EOW so I already arrange my work and childcare around this. I wouldn't expect or want his new partner to look after my children (not that I dislike her).

Obviously if it's 50/50 and the mother arranged her work around this arrangement it can be difficult so I think some flexibility, if you can would be best for the children. The mum losing her job or money would not be great for them.

Ohlookwhoitis · 29/05/2024 09:45

MyOleMan · 29/05/2024 09:18

When parents break up it can be extremely hard on the kids. From then on any adult who gets involved needs to understand this is the centre point. Your attitude is transactional and shows how and why some children from divorced parents are devastated by the outcome

What about their actual mother?

MyOleMan · 29/05/2024 09:48

Yes of course their mother should be involved. But every adult who becomes part of the set up needs to acknowledge their responsibilities. Treating stepchildren as chores to be divided up among the reluctant adults leaves a lasting mark. I was that kid.

MotherofChaosandDestruction · 29/05/2024 09:48

Ohlookwhoitis · 29/05/2024 09:26

Exactly. Some people on here are going on as if step-mothers have a legal responsibility to look after THEIR children. All this "You took on his children therefore step up". Absolute bullshit.

The thing is, I think 6 hours a week is a little different to 50/50. I do EOW so it isn't an issue to cancel a social event but if I had to say to work I couldn't be in for a week unexpectedly, I probably wouldn't be paid and with no CMS for 50/50 this would hugely impact my ability to pay for my bills. It isn't straight forward in 50/50 IMO but ultimately, it isn't the OPs responsibility but in the OPs shoes I would probably try and be a little flexible.

ILoveYouItsRuiningMyLife · 29/05/2024 09:48

CoffeeCup14 · 29/05/2024 09:35

Good for you not being in a situation where you need to understand it.

Being a single parent can be absolutely exhausting. You can need the time for respite, and you protect it because having that time to yourself is in the best interests of your children.

What, so you’d prefer a stepparent care for your kids if it wasn’t your “time”?

I’m quite sure it is exhausting but I’ll still never understand the mindset that you’d rather your kids were elsewhere. That might be in your best interests but let’s not pretend it’s in theirs.

Ohlookwhoitis · 29/05/2024 09:48

CoffeeCup14 · 29/05/2024 09:35

Good for you not being in a situation where you need to understand it.

Being a single parent can be absolutely exhausting. You can need the time for respite, and you protect it because having that time to yourself is in the best interests of your children.

I've been a single parent. When my ex was in hospital, I gladly gave up 'my time' to take care of my child. Did you read all OPs posts? The ex is literally harassing OP. You think it's ok to harass a woman whose husband is sick in hospital? You don't think OP has enough on her plate?

Ereyraa · 29/05/2024 09:51

CoffeeCup14 · 29/05/2024 09:35

Good for you not being in a situation where you need to understand it.

Being a single parent can be absolutely exhausting. You can need the time for respite, and you protect it because having that time to yourself is in the best interests of your children.

Step-parents are not your respite.

No parents get to do what’s in the parents best interest much. Probably wouldn’t have any DC at all if that were the case.

Nopacking · 29/05/2024 09:55

MotherofChaosandDestruction · 29/05/2024 09:48

The thing is, I think 6 hours a week is a little different to 50/50. I do EOW so it isn't an issue to cancel a social event but if I had to say to work I couldn't be in for a week unexpectedly, I probably wouldn't be paid and with no CMS for 50/50 this would hugely impact my ability to pay for my bills. It isn't straight forward in 50/50 IMO but ultimately, it isn't the OPs responsibility but in the OPs shoes I would probably try and be a little flexible.

This is exactly it. It would be different if your DH died because the ex would permanently rearrange childcare to support her DC but not great risking losing her job (and means to support her DC) when the following week your DH can say 'right all is well, send them back to me'. I presume you are able to support your DC with the help of your DH's sick pay, the ex receives nothing from your DH.

Bellsandthistle · 29/05/2024 09:55

Ohlookwhoitis · 29/05/2024 09:15

Omg. So many entitled exs on this thread. How dare you demand another woman look after your DC. How fucking dare you. I would never have dreamed of putting those expectations on my exs wife.

I’m not an “ex”, but I think it’s outrageous that a step mother would refuse to care for her step children because they’re not biologically her children. Why is it acceptable to treat step children this way?

Ohlookwhoitis · 29/05/2024 09:57

MyOleMan · 29/05/2024 09:48

Yes of course their mother should be involved. But every adult who becomes part of the set up needs to acknowledge their responsibilities. Treating stepchildren as chores to be divided up among the reluctant adults leaves a lasting mark. I was that kid.

Your parents are directly responsible for what happened to you as a kid. OP is the last person who should be taking responsibility for the DC here. I cannot imagine anyone being so entitled as to ask any other woman whose husband is in hospital to take care of their children...but as OP is a step-mother she's fair game.

ILoveYouItsRuiningMyLife · 29/05/2024 09:59

I agree that ultimately it’s down to the parents, of course.

But Jesus Christ ohlookwhoitis I’m glad you’re not my kids’ stepmother. What an attitude 🤦🏻‍♀️

Purplecatshopaholic · 29/05/2024 09:59

If my partner was ill, I wouldn’t be looking after his kids, no. I would expect their mother to do that. But different families will manage this in different ways.

Bellsandthistle · 29/05/2024 10:00

Ohlookwhoitis · 29/05/2024 09:57

Your parents are directly responsible for what happened to you as a kid. OP is the last person who should be taking responsibility for the DC here. I cannot imagine anyone being so entitled as to ask any other woman whose husband is in hospital to take care of their children...but as OP is a step-mother she's fair game.

Do you think a step mother should drop the children off with their mother when their dad gets ill because they’re “no more my kids than the neighbour’s kids, not my problem?”
You definitely should not have married a man with children.

BibbleandSqwauk · 29/05/2024 10:00

I get a break from my kids when they go to their dad's about once every two months. In those rare times I arranged to see my partner, he often books us a break away from home. Id be v v reluctant to cancel that, especially when ex would not do the same for me...if I've been ill or seriously overwhelmed or anything else there is no question of him stepping in, it's always up to "my side" eg grandparents to help me. I think that's true in many cases, the RP is the default but the nrp is not.

FTPM1980 · 29/05/2024 10:01

I hope there would be compromise.
Depending on availability and other commitments.
In either position I would be happy to share the responsibility whether is was an acute illness for a few days or long term.

Ohlookwhoitis · 29/05/2024 10:02

MotherofChaosandDestruction · 29/05/2024 09:48

The thing is, I think 6 hours a week is a little different to 50/50. I do EOW so it isn't an issue to cancel a social event but if I had to say to work I couldn't be in for a week unexpectedly, I probably wouldn't be paid and with no CMS for 50/50 this would hugely impact my ability to pay for my bills. It isn't straight forward in 50/50 IMO but ultimately, it isn't the OPs responsibility but in the OPs shoes I would probably try and be a little flexible.

I get it. My ex did about 5/6 hours a week. He was useless. But no other woman whose husband was ill in hospital would be expected to take on someone else's childcare. But yet people are telling OP she's being unreasonable. The expectations put on step-mothers are shocking.

ILoveYouItsRuiningMyLife · 29/05/2024 10:02

BibbleandSqwauk · 29/05/2024 10:00

I get a break from my kids when they go to their dad's about once every two months. In those rare times I arranged to see my partner, he often books us a break away from home. Id be v v reluctant to cancel that, especially when ex would not do the same for me...if I've been ill or seriously overwhelmed or anything else there is no question of him stepping in, it's always up to "my side" eg grandparents to help me. I think that's true in many cases, the RP is the default but the nrp is not.

Yeah but…you’d put your children first, surely? Rather than just tit for tat with the ex? You’d do what was best in those circumstances for your children? Right?

SemperIdem · 29/05/2024 10:04

Bellsandthistle · 29/05/2024 09:55

I’m not an “ex”, but I think it’s outrageous that a step mother would refuse to care for her step children because they’re not biologically her children. Why is it acceptable to treat step children this way?

Why is acceptable for their own mother to not want them? Get a grip.

I would want my child with me if her father became too unwell to look after her.

I would expect my step children to be with their mother, if my husband became too unwell to look after them.

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