To think Cornwall has gone down market?

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Not my opinion - that of my friend. She said she was down in West Cornwall for the bank holiday weekend and the crowd seems go have changed a lot over the last five years.

You found craft beers and quinoa here? Where??? I'd like some.

Shocking, isn’t it? It really puts all these ‘posh or not’ threads into perspective. Ultimately, our infrastructure is falling apart and we’re all in the same race to the bottom in the UK. Doesn’t matter if you live in a ‘rich’ area or not.

Things were better for everyone not that long ago.

If they wanted Butlins, they'd be in Butlins!

They have as much right to be there as you.

I love St Ives for the peace

It's been a very long time since I've associated St Ives with the word peace.
It's heaving all year round.

@Yerroblemom1923
Cambourne is in Cambridgeshire.
My hometown, Camborne, is in Cornwall. Not rich, not pretty, but, as others have said, the real Cornwall.

Having worked in the tourist trade for 20 years I can tell you, with absolute certainty, that more working class 'northerners & midlanders' would be a goddamn delight cos they tend to treat us far far better than the 'hooray henries' who treat us, the roads, the beaches, the lifeguards like absolute shit. Polzeath is a horror show in season, they had to have nighttime beach patrols cos of how badly the public school gangs trashed the place.

Fact is, it's so insanely expensive here now it stopped being a working class holiday destination a long time ago & I wish it could go back.

Northerners? Oh the horror!

I always thought of Cornwall as a down to earth, unpretentious sort of place fundamentally, some of which gets invaded by upper middle class Hoorays for part of the year and is best avoided at those times.

Entitled posh southerners who would have thought eh !

Horay Henries are not always southerners

It's a description of a subset of people who have typically grown up with significant privileges and have less social awareness as a result

They are used to getting their own way, having whatever they want so treat others as servants to give them what they want , they equate wealth with right and good and assume therefore that the bus driver must be a less worthwhile person than they are
Sharing - things like space is not something they have done much of so they are bad at it. They are often unusually loud

Horay Henry is a shorthand way of describing that class of people

It's bloody expensive there, that hotel on the beach is ridiculous.

@Beezknees of course they do. I don’t own Cornwall. There are some really lovely campsites we don’t use any more though because 5-10 years ago they were quiet (children playing in the day etc) they are now much louder late into the evening, people blaring music, children running around screaming late at night, parents screaming at them etc. We really love camping as a family but it’s a bit crap when the people around you forget that canvas is thin.

(don’t mind babies crying at any time, children up early - would expect noise from 7am ish. But I do expect people to be fairly quiet from 10pm and not play music (or scream 🫣).

Around me, SE Cornwall, Single bedroom AirBnB's with views of a toilet block, car park and no private parking, go for around £90 to £120 per night but you do get a local River with its own high capacity sewage outflow, which constantly stinks.

I ve just booked 20 nights in the Alsace, Loire and Dordogne in beautiful quiet villages and rural locations for less than 1 week in Cornwall.

Even adding in the ferry and fuel costs, its still cheaper and a far far better chance of sun.

It’s pretty peaceful outside school holidays, especially early in the day

Those words aren’t just used to identify tourists though, otherwise the word tourist would do the job.

They are used in a negative derogatory way. In my experience of the word emmet being used, it’s always said with an air of superiority and it is disingenuous to pretend that it simply means ‘tourist’.

People who use derogatory terms to generalise entire groups of people tend to be twats.

I think it is ridiculous to visit one area of a county and say the whole county has gone down hill. I consider the North coast of Cornwall to be quite upmarket, but heavy tourism does often seem to negatively affect the local charm of a place whether that is in Cornwall or abroad.

Oh and the population of Cornwall has gone up by over 100,000 in recent years, the large housing estates around Truro and Newquay (and many other towns) have totally changed the county... for the worse, whilst not reducing the housing crisis as the majority end up as buy to lets or sold to housing associations from other regions.

Slippery slope here mind, first the Northerners arrive and before you know it the Welsh will be there as well. Tell your friend to take care .

I don't know why the Welsh would bother. Pembrokeshire has similar landscape and weather and is far less spoiled by Hoorays.

The Welsh are already there, and quite liked by the locals. Celtic cousins 😆

Those awful Cornish country ''roads''!

I love Carbis Bay in the winter. It's a wildlife haven.

And as a person living and working in Cornwall for 24 years, yes it has changed. You can still find little spots of unspoiled beauty but it's more difficult. And even at those when no one is around, you might find an abandoned BBQ that some bastard has left behind. People do seem to be getting more selfish and ignorant, and it's not only the tourists.

@TinyYellow yeah bit like "offcumden" around Hebden Bridge, I've rarely to never heard it used in a non-shitty way.

What exactly does she mean by downmarket?

More tourists than usual so less of an exclusive feel? Travelling abroad is even more expensive now and since covid many people realise there are lovely places to visit in the UK.

The 'type' of people/tourists- more people drinking/antisocial behaviour? More diverse?-which I would take as being racist- if she has a problem with northerners than what does she think of people from different ethnicities/cultures that live/visit Cornwall?

More rundown- which is affecting the whole UK right now?

The UK is in a bloody state right now. Years of austerity, brevity, covid, cost of living. Everywhere has gone downmarket.