To think Cornwall has gone down market?

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Not my opinion - that of my friend. She said she was down in West Cornwall for the bank holiday weekend and the crowd seems go have changed a lot over the last five years.

There are many examples of places that change demographic and go downhill. The once wealthy Victorian seaside towns are generally shit holes now. What do run down Blackpool and Bognor have in common apart from being incredibly popular tourist destinations back in the day.

It's daft to pretend lots of part time people don't change an area as opposed to an industry than is more productive.

There’s two distinct problems

1. Mass tourism in its current forms (huge cruise-ships for example, an abundance of AI resorts & Air B&B takeovers which disrupt local life & exert too much pressure on local public services and infrastructure)

2. second holiday homes which are, as @Thepatioisready quite rightly points out only occupied for a fraction of the year.

New legislation and regulation to manage and preserve certain “hotspots” will affect everyone who seeks to travel @CantDealwithChristmas. And so it should, without exception. People have a relatively newfound freedom to travel which is great of course but with this comes a large degree of responsibility. We can’t just continue as we are, turning a blind eye to the problems it’s causing in many places. And why would you want to? Surely it matters that local people are suffering in many ways to lead normal lives? As a direct result of the models of operation that are currently in force in the tourist industry - all designed to make quick financial gains for the operators and with no moral or ethical obligations whatsoever?

Tell your friend to piss off to France in future, she'll only encounter slim, elegant people.

Tell your friend to piss off to France in future, she'll only encounter slim, elegant people.

Northerners get everywhere nowadays @RobertaFirmino , she won't be guaranteed a ' northerner free zone' regardless of where she travels

Never had Cornwall being down as upmarket. It’s always been full of tourists from every corner of the UK. I haven’t visited for a few years as got bored with the place, but can’t say I noticed it was ever upmarket.

@Livelovebehappy there are parts of Cornwall that are clearly for very well off tourists.

I wonder what constitutes down market behaviour at the seaside ? Building a post modernist sink estate instead of a castle ?

@Dymaxion probably having working class accents and wearing cheap clothes.

@Handfreeumbrella

start your own post, maybe under ' parenting '

I'm sure the Northeners go to France you are right get bloody everywhere 😂

I’ve never noticed them, or been aware of it when visiting. But having said that, it’s not something I would give a thought to, as I tend to focus on my family and what we’re doing, rather than noticing if someone is carrying a Gucci bag, or wearing Prada shades.

There's a whole other topic for people to have a field day on.

Topless men walking down the road
Taking your children to evening entertainment at "the club" and letting them fall asleep in their buggy with a dummy in
Amusement arcades
Parents sitting drinking whilst the kids run feral....

Any more?

@Livelovebehappy Can't you tell just by the prices? You have to be well off to rent a holiday place and eat.

A farmer today complained about the mess left by the bank holiday visitors yet again. It was in Snowdonia national park, there are wild ponies up there as well as other wild creatures. He collected up visitors rubbish which included a torn tent and abandoned sleeping bags.

Others then put up pictures of bottles, disposable plates, cutlery, etc that volunteers were cleaning up today in other areas

It does leave a bad taste in the mouth.

Not just serving, but saving. A lifeguard friend of mine, patrolled one of the most dangerous beaches, was living in his car after being kicked out of his rental so it could be airbnb'd. Imagine, living in your car to then go to work to save the lives of people who refuse to listen to you. Same guy who organised patrols of the same beach during lockdowns when the 2nd homeowners descended (rules didn't apply to them) & when the RNLI refused to cover the beaches when the lockdowns were lifted & the zones were in place (remember when cornwall had next to no covid & the south-east had shitloads so they all came here?)

One day a couple of years ago he alone rescued 7 people from a brutal rip (ignoring the flags obvs). He did that, finished his shift... Went back to his sodding car.

Poor guy - I hope his living conditions have since improved.

And that was why immediately post covid the demographic shifted - the people who normally flew to Benidorm found themselves in Cornwall and tried to have a similar “brits abroad” type holiday.

Love it when I hear 'the EU poured huge amounts in....' Who was it in the EU - Bulgaria (outside toilets), Romania (spare some change), Latvia, Lithuania or Estonia (so poor it hurts) - Western European countries, propping up the EU, poured money into Cornwall, it should read.

If you think that's bad, you should try being an innocent punter in an Oxford pub when the Bullingdon Club bursts in.

Think Liverpool vs Juventus in 1995 but with posh accents and the odd title. Horrible, terrifying.

And they're the 'right kind of people' too. Boorishness is not class based after all. Who'da thunk it?

I always wonder why people in Devon and Cornwall moan so much about Emmet's and Grockles, but North Yorkshire, which gets just as many tourists, particularly in York, is so much friendlier and more accepting. Maybe its just because the county is so huge, so the tourists are spread out.

I remember going to Newquay about 15 years ago and was shocked by the drunken debauchery. There were people vomiting in the street. A man exposing his arse to every one who walked past. Some women fighting in the street. I suppose not that different to the rest of the UK on a Saturday night!
I'm nearly 50 and even as a child I remember people of all classes going to Cornwall. It was never a middle class holiday destination. It's always been very mixed.

Newquay have made a massive effort to police the behaviour of private school kids that used to flood the town before the state schools broke up.
Board masters is still a teenage mess though.

I went to Newquay in 1976 a friend had a summer job there. Stayed in a B&B dragon landlady. I was twenty a country mouse.

What struck me on early morning walks before breakfast were the council wagons picking up litter and spraying the streets with water every single day.

I just thought well our council don't do that never guessing that it might have been the puking visitors previously ill on scrumpy.

It was grim in a B&B then with all the rules and 10pm curfew. I had to be out by 10 am not returning before 6pm. For a wash, then lock up 10 PM.

I hear Rishi is in Cornwall at the moment. It’s definitely gone downhill.