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AIBU to think that bathing your kids once a week is not 'neglect'.

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ThisWillBeInteresting01 · 27/05/2024 13:35

This is spurred on by another threat about someone struggling to keep their house clean. They mentioned that their kids are bathed once a week. This caused a lot of negativity amongst posters, with some comments calling bathing your kids once a week 'neglect'. This surprised me!!

My DC is 4 and has on average 2 baths a week (and yes, sometimes that means 1 a week). It has never been part of our bedtime routine - it gets them het up rather than calming them down. Their hair is washed once a week in term time after swimming class (v long hair as per DC's request, which takes an age to wash and dry). On holidays we once went 3 weeks without washing their hair. Hair was not smelly and looked lovely throughout.
My DC is not smelly, not dirty and most definitely not neglected! They have clean clothes, tidy brushed hair, are very popular at school, and have a generally nice life. (They also have a miraculous ability to somehow stay clean even when eating bowls of bolognaise and poking around in the dirt at school, which is helpful 🙏. Obviously if/when they do actually get covered in mud I wash them!).

I did some poking around and the American Academy of Dermatology say that children below pre-teens do not need more than 1-2 baths a week as long as they're not actively dirty/smelly.
https://www.aad.org/public/everyday-care/skin-care-basics/care/child-bathing

So is it really that bad not to bathe your children very often?

YABU - Children are dirty and sticky, more washing please!

YANBU - As long as they're not stinking up the bus then it's fine.

https://www.aad.org/public/everyday-care/skin-care-basics/care/child-bathing

OP posts:
MaryMaryVeryContrary · 27/05/2024 15:43

MaryMaryVeryContrary · 27/05/2024 15:39

Grim!

I don’t scrub my kids skin, I pour some bubble bath under the tap, then they wallow around in it for 10 minutes. I pour jugs of the water over them and shampoo/rinse.

Just water tbh leaves people smelling worse than when they got in - it just isn’t enough. I’m all for limiting chemicals/UPFs and whatever, but just washing in water once a week is vile.

And to follow that up, for anybody who claims even the sight of Radox gives them thrush and their kids eczema, there are flipping loads of natural products and tbh I don’t believe you can’t find something to clean with that doesn’t break you out.

I remember one post on here who said they only shampooed their hair in the bath, as any products left them wanting to flay their skin off. I asked how it was ok to lie in a bath full of shampoo suds but not a very mild soap, they didn’t reply 🤷🏼‍♀️

Janiie · 27/05/2024 15:44

Not far off neglect and definitely grim. Bums and feet need daily washing and no a 'top and tail' does not suffice.

We all knew the smelly kids at school. Don't let yours be one of them.

SummerFeverVenice · 27/05/2024 15:46

MaryMaryVeryContrary · 27/05/2024 15:41

I don’t think it’s neglect. If they’re hand washing, clean clothes etc in between then they’ll be a bit grimy but not filthy and neglect is the worst possible treatment - depriving them of food, hardly ever washing them, dog shit in the house, that kind of thing.

There are different degrees of neglect the same as with all other forms of child abuse. It doesn’t have to be the worst possible neglectful treatment to be classed as child neglect the same as CSA doesn’t have to be years of child rape to be classed as child sexual abuse.

Janiie · 27/05/2024 15:46

'And to follow that up, for anybody who claims even the sight of Radox gives them thrush and their kids eczema, there are flipping loads of natural products and tbh I don’t believe you can’t find something to clean with that doesn’t break you out.'

Exactly. Just slack, incredibly lazy 'parenting'.

Caravaggiouch · 27/05/2024 15:46

BurbageBrook · 27/05/2024 13:53

I don't think it's neglect but I think surely the kids are quite smelly by day 3. It was normal to bathe once a year in the middle ages! Times change. I know it was the norm in the 70s but kids who bathe once a week now probably don't look or smell very clean in comparison to their peer group. It doesn't have to be damaging to sensitive skin if you use limited and skin sensitive products.

Why would they be smelly? What would be making a child who brushes their teeth twice a day, washes their hands appropriately, washes their face at bedtime and knows how to wipe properly after using the toilet, smelly?

Hedgerow2 · 27/05/2024 15:47

Bonjovispjs · 27/05/2024 13:39

When I was a kid back in the 70s, it was the norm to have a bath once a week, usually on a Sunday evening before school on a Monday. None of us kids were ever smelly, but we did have washes on the other days.

Same here in the 60s/70s. Bath night was Sunday and my hair was washed every other Sunday.
At secondary school I had 2 white blouses - one of which I'd wear for 2 days and the other for 3 days. They were then washed on a weekend.

Janiie · 27/05/2024 15:50

'washes their hands appropriately, washes their face at bedtime and knows how to wipe properly after using the toilet, smelly?'

Whole bodies need washing properly daily. A quick flick with flannel is not sufficient. Honestly why do some folk need the very obvious pointing out. Poor kids going to school after a once a week bath/shower and their poor friends 🤢.

Pin0cchio · 27/05/2024 15:51

4 year olds don't tend to wipe terribly well when going to the loo. Even the ones who are good at it. Its why nursery/reception classrooms have that smell a bit like wee.

I'd be fine with once a week but i think their bottom etc needs washing properly on a daily basis .

That said, i couldn't get away with it with my kids (4 & 7). They seem to get muddy/grubby from playing out or have pen on them basically every day, we can only get away with skipping the bath/shower once or twice a week.

fieldsofbutterflies · 27/05/2024 15:52

YaMuvva · 27/05/2024 15:42

It’s definitely not any form of neglect.

Well, official sources would disagree - poor hygiene absolutely is a form of neglect, especially when the children are so young that they have no choice but to go along with what their parents choose.

https://cpdonline.co.uk/knowledge-base/safeguarding/the-types-of-child-neglect/#:~:text=Another%20example%20of%20physical%20neglect,they%20form%20with%20other%20children.

https://learning.nspcc.org.uk/child-abuse-and-neglect/neglect

fieldsofbutterflies · 27/05/2024 15:53

MaryMaryVeryContrary · 27/05/2024 15:41

I don’t think it’s neglect. If they’re hand washing, clean clothes etc in between then they’ll be a bit grimy but not filthy and neglect is the worst possible treatment - depriving them of food, hardly ever washing them, dog shit in the house, that kind of thing.

There are different levels and types of neglect.

Just because a child isn't living in a home with dog shit on the floor, doesn't mean they're not being neglected Confused

YaMuvva · 27/05/2024 15:55

fieldsofbutterflies · 27/05/2024 15:52

Well, official sources would disagree - poor hygiene absolutely is a form of neglect, especially when the children are so young that they have no choice but to go along with what their parents choose.

https://cpdonline.co.uk/knowledge-base/safeguarding/the-types-of-child-neglect/#:~:text=Another%20example%20of%20physical%20neglect,they%20form%20with%20other%20children.

https://learning.nspcc.org.uk/child-abuse-and-neglect/neglect

Literally neither of these links (BTW the first one isn’t the bet source it’s about online courses) say that bathing once a week is neglect.

You need to try harder

Caravaggiouch · 27/05/2024 15:55

Janiie · 27/05/2024 15:50

'washes their hands appropriately, washes their face at bedtime and knows how to wipe properly after using the toilet, smelly?'

Whole bodies need washing properly daily. A quick flick with flannel is not sufficient. Honestly why do some folk need the very obvious pointing out. Poor kids going to school after a once a week bath/shower and their poor friends 🤢.

They really don’t. Get a grip. I know my child doesn’t smell and she looks perfectly neat and tidy. Children are not adults - she doesn’t smell.

I’ve found this attitude usually the preserve of those Mrs Hinch dickheads who also change every towel in the house after half an hour and use 7 bottles of Zoflora a day then wonder why their children have shite immune systems and the local water systems are polluted as fuck.

YaMuvva · 27/05/2024 15:55

fieldsofbutterflies · 27/05/2024 15:53

There are different levels and types of neglect.

Just because a child isn't living in a home with dog shit on the floor, doesn't mean they're not being neglected Confused

And bathing regularly but less regularly than the next family doesn’t mean they ARE neglected

K0OLA1D · 27/05/2024 15:56

Janiie · 27/05/2024 15:44

Not far off neglect and definitely grim. Bums and feet need daily washing and no a 'top and tail' does not suffice.

We all knew the smelly kids at school. Don't let yours be one of them.

Top and tail is fine for in-between showers. How do you think bed ridden people manage. Fgs.

fieldsofbutterflies · 27/05/2024 15:56

YaMuvva · 27/05/2024 15:55

Literally neither of these links (BTW the first one isn’t the bet source it’s about online courses) say that bathing once a week is neglect.

You need to try harder

I never said they did Hmm

I said that poor hygiene is a type of physical neglect.

So maybe read people's posts properly before jumping in with your snippy comments?

fieldsofbutterflies · 27/05/2024 15:57

YaMuvva · 27/05/2024 15:55

And bathing regularly but less regularly than the next family doesn’t mean they ARE neglected

Again, I never said it did.

YaMuvva · 27/05/2024 15:57

Caravaggiouch · 27/05/2024 15:55

They really don’t. Get a grip. I know my child doesn’t smell and she looks perfectly neat and tidy. Children are not adults - she doesn’t smell.

I’ve found this attitude usually the preserve of those Mrs Hinch dickheads who also change every towel in the house after half an hour and use 7 bottles of Zoflora a day then wonder why their children have shite immune systems and the local water systems are polluted as fuck.

Agree with this.
my DC are a bit different in that they have skin conditions where the advice is to not bathe too much, but these smug germophobes may think they’re doing an excellent job keeping their kids clean but I wonder if they’re taking notice of wether their anxieties are rubbing off onto their kids. IME germophobe parents create children who are bags of nerves, and perhaps they shouldn’t be as sanctimonious as they are.

YaMuvva · 27/05/2024 15:58

fieldsofbutterflies · 27/05/2024 15:57

Again, I never said it did.

You heavily implied it, otherwise I’m not sure what the point of your post even was

Lavenderflower · 27/05/2024 15:58

This has never been the norm for me or my family. I always had a bath most days.

TeamPolin · 27/05/2024 15:58

It's not neglect (and I come from the era of Sunday night baths myself so grew up with this as the norm.) But my kid definitely needs a bath more than once a week. As I suspect any kid who plays out a lot would.

Pin0cchio · 27/05/2024 15:59

@Caravaggiouch

Playing? Mine play outdoors most days. They seem to always have grass stained knees, or general "grubbiness" everywhere. Its not just on their hands.

Lots of children will wear a dress with no tights, or shorts, for the vast majority of the year - they often don't feel the cold, and they can easily get mud etc on their legs.

My primary age dc often come home with pen, glue or paint in the most bizarre places.

My DC aren't particularly prone to getting sweaty but we know loads who are pink & sweaty after twenty minutes running around the park.

There'll be a minority of children who might be ok after not being bathed for a week but its not many.

I do think when its your own DC you get used to how they smell & may not notice it but honestly they can whiff if not washed.

cakecoffeecakecoffee · 27/05/2024 16:00

As usual on mumsnet, people go to one extreme or the other with no middle ground.

for some children, a weekly bath or shower will be perfectly adequate and for others it won’t. Depends how messy they are, whether they get sweaty, whether they wash in between showers/baths, whether they have clean clothes. So many factors!

As a children’s social worker, I would never consider just the frequency of a weekly bath in and of itself as a child automatically being neglected! That’s ridiculous.
they MAY be neglected or they MAY be absolutely fine.
it would only be if it was part of a bigger picture that it might be considered neglectful.

fieldsofbutterflies · 27/05/2024 16:00

YaMuvva · 27/05/2024 15:58

You heavily implied it, otherwise I’m not sure what the point of your post even was

Well, this is a discussion forum, so to contribute to the discussion...

Girliefriendlikespuppies · 27/05/2024 16:01

It's not neglect but it is a bit gross, most kids get grubby and sweaty ime.

YaMuvva · 27/05/2024 16:02

fieldsofbutterflies · 27/05/2024 15:56

I never said they did Hmm

I said that poor hygiene is a type of physical neglect.

So maybe read people's posts properly before jumping in with your snippy comments?

EH?!

I said bathing once a week isn’t a form of neglect.

You said “Official sources would disagree” and presented me with ONE source and one online training website that said NOTHING about bathing once a week.

I reall my CBA with the “i dIdNt SAy THat” semantics bullshit that some posters only pull when they’ve been proven wrong and want to pretend they didn’t mean things literally. You’re wrong on every level and I’m guessing you assumed people wouldn’t click on your “official sources”