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To think I had every right to be in the right hand lane when driving the speed limit on a dual carriage way

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P3kingDuck · 24/05/2024 19:55

Dh thinks not.

So I’ve had to do a speed awareness course a while ago so do my best to keep to speed limits at all times.

Driving home on a curving dual carriage way on a slight tilt. 50 limit signs every few yards and a speed camera sign. The lane on the right turns into a fly over which I needed to keep on. So I was in the right hand lane driving at 50. A car came right up to my bumper and kept flashing. I stayed in the lane and pointed at the signs. He kept flashing then overtook me in a dramatic fashion, zoomed off( so breaking the speed limit) then slowed down so ended up driving not that faster than me but still over the limit.

Dh said I should have pulled over. I don’t understand why. Nobody on that road should be doing over 50 so what would be the benefit of me pulling over if I’m doing 50?

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blablasmthsmth · 26/05/2024 21:50

Actually quite a number of PPs have just been advising the OP that the most sensible option in that scenario is to let the speeding, tailgating idiot pass so their poor driving becomes someone else’s problem. Defensive driving 101.

Well if the large number of posters had simply said something along the lines of "yeah, he's a twat but for your own safety it's best to make way if you're safely able to and you believe you'd be able to get back into lane without missing your exit" then I don't think many would've disagreed and OP probably wouldn't have been so defensive.

But that's not what happened in this thread. The bulk immediately made a load of assumptions and were calling her a shit driver, blaming her for the twats aggressive driving, saying get the fuck over, you don't belong in that lane, he had more right to be there than you, hand in your licence... and on and on and on it went. It's obvious that a lot of posters on here revel in a pile on. There was no need for it.

I mean, you just made the assumption that she was driven by moral superiority and that she'd risk her own safety to prevent him from passing. Why not assume that she didn't feel she could make the manoeuvre safely and in good time so, weighing up in the moment, she decided to stick where she was?
She isn't responsible for the other drivers dangerous driving and horrible attitude. Why not just let her post and have a moan about aggressive drivers without piling on her?

blablasmthsmth · 26/05/2024 21:51

blablasmthsmth · 26/05/2024 21:50

Actually quite a number of PPs have just been advising the OP that the most sensible option in that scenario is to let the speeding, tailgating idiot pass so their poor driving becomes someone else’s problem. Defensive driving 101.

Well if the large number of posters had simply said something along the lines of "yeah, he's a twat but for your own safety it's best to make way if you're safely able to and you believe you'd be able to get back into lane without missing your exit" then I don't think many would've disagreed and OP probably wouldn't have been so defensive.

But that's not what happened in this thread. The bulk immediately made a load of assumptions and were calling her a shit driver, blaming her for the twats aggressive driving, saying get the fuck over, you don't belong in that lane, he had more right to be there than you, hand in your licence... and on and on and on it went. It's obvious that a lot of posters on here revel in a pile on. There was no need for it.

I mean, you just made the assumption that she was driven by moral superiority and that she'd risk her own safety to prevent him from passing. Why not assume that she didn't feel she could make the manoeuvre safely and in good time so, weighing up in the moment, she decided to stick where she was?
She isn't responsible for the other drivers dangerous driving and horrible attitude. Why not just let her post and have a moan about aggressive drivers without piling on her?

I forgot to put quotes on the first paragraph 🤪

brunettemic · 26/05/2024 22:07

You know those big signs they have on motorways saying things like “door hog the middle lane” and “use inside lane unless overtaking”? You really need to pay more attention to things like that. Then I suggest you read up on how to drive properly.

gillefc82 · 26/05/2024 22:32

blablasmthsmth · 26/05/2024 21:51

I forgot to put quotes on the first paragraph 🤪

Ha, no worries, I often have the same issue when posting on my phone! 😬

You’re correct, I am making an assumption regarding the OPs moral superiority, but in fairness, the assumption is directly inferred from the OPs own posts (emphasis is my own):

I stayed in the lane and pointed at the signs.

why did anybody need to overtake if I was doing the speed limit?

Why would you need to overtake if the speed limit is being kept to?

Nobody on that road should be doing over 50 so what would be the benefit of me pulling over

Definitely wasn’t an emergency.

was an arsehole. He clearly had no reason to overtake, he just wanted to be in front. He then stayed in the right hand lane!!! Why did he have more right to be there than me?

Reads less like someone worried about their ability to execute an avoidance manoeuvre from a reckless driver and more like one who feels convinced they are in the right and therefore have no compulsion to change what they are doing.

Should we have to make allowances for d*ckheads behind the wheel? Of course not. Everyone should be capable and willing to drive safely, responsibly and compliantly. But that’s not the reality we live in and sometimes it’s the smarter choice to remove yourself from the situation.

For what it’s worth, I agree with your point about pile ons, but I’d hope that anyone posting in AIBU is prepared for the response not to go their way.

Enjoy your BH weekend!

pineapplesundae · 27/05/2024 02:58

Are you purposely being obtuse?

ScroogeMcDuckling · 27/05/2024 11:33

P3kingDuck · 25/05/2024 06:57

Also I have never had a conviction for anything or points on my license. A speed awareness course is not classed as a driving conviction . I have also never had an accident in 35 years of driving.

I hold all licences except module 2 of the big motorbikes, and just like you apart from speeding - I was doing 40 in what I thought for years was a 40mph road, turned out to be a 30, I’ve never had any convictions in 40years.

Training to drive buses was absolutely brilliant, I loved every moment of it, I learnt so much that I didn’t know as a car driver.

Training to be a hgv driver, was good too, but not so eye opening as I had started to keep refreshing myself because of buses and I was also riding a 125 by this time to.

You have to go on various courses when you hold bus/lorry licences which keep you refreshed.

I personally don’t like the thought of over 70s “should be retested” as I think it’s agist, but reading this thread with the ops attitude, does make me think, everybody should do a CPC course like “professional drivers” as it keeps you refreshed.

sashh · 28/05/2024 08:10

I hold all licences except module 2 of the big motorbikes, and just like you apart from speeding - I was doing 40 in what I thought for years was a 40mph road, turned out to be a 30, I’ve never had any convictions in 40years.

I don't want to derail the thread but I'm curios, we must be about the same age, when I did my bike test it qualified me to ride any bike so I'm just wondering when you did yours.

Goodtogossip · 28/05/2024 15:03

I'm afraid you were in the wrong & could've received a fine for lane hogging. (not the official term I know). The right hand lane is for overtaking & emergency services use. Drivers driving at the correct speed but staying in this lane can cause a build up of traffic which can cause accidents.

Bromptotoo · 28/05/2024 15:50

Goodtogossip · 28/05/2024 15:03

I'm afraid you were in the wrong & could've received a fine for lane hogging. (not the official term I know). The right hand lane is for overtaking & emergency services use. Drivers driving at the correct speed but staying in this lane can cause a build up of traffic which can cause accidents.

It depends on how far the OP was from the lanes diverging and what signage and road markings were present.

If at the point where this incident occurred overhead signs and lane markings delineated lanes by destination they're OK to hold their position. If not they should pull over and let the (other?) muppet through.

SneezedToothOut · 28/05/2024 17:40

Bromptotoo · 28/05/2024 15:50

It depends on how far the OP was from the lanes diverging and what signage and road markings were present.

If at the point where this incident occurred overhead signs and lane markings delineated lanes by destination they're OK to hold their position. If not they should pull over and let the (other?) muppet through.

I’m sure they would have been mentioned had they been there.

frankentall · 28/05/2024 18:14

Everanewbie · 26/05/2024 11:42

I’m tired of saying this. OP explained that the road diverged, ie left lane is for the A303, right lane for the A404. OP required A404 and therefore needed the right lane. She inferred that she had passed signs had told her that she needed to be in the right lane for the A404 and it was “way less than a mile” until the split. Moving over to move back seconds later would have been a far more dangerous manoeuvre.

As a pp has mentioned, maybe if op had been worded differently, explaining she was in the right lane for branching right as per road signs with less than s mile to go, we wouldn’t have this “left lane, end of” torrent of responses.

Where does the A303 intersect with the A404?

Also OP cannot infer - we can infer from her post.

Everanewbie · 28/05/2024 19:06

frankentall · 28/05/2024 18:14

Where does the A303 intersect with the A404?

Also OP cannot infer - we can infer from her post.

Edited

Well the A303 was a road I used to patronise frequently. A404 is fictional as I couldn't remember another road at the time of posting. It’s a hypothetical junction I made up.

I realise the OP is wrong to police lanes and speed. I think she’s getting mad about the wrong thing. She did say way less than a mile and I think it’s only fair to take her at her word. The attitude about speed limits is dangerous, the sort of people that drive like the man is hardly likely to accept they are wrong when being presented with the speed limit. But to hold her lane, if all that she says is true, I don’t think is wrong.

Uglyandgrumpy · 19/08/2024 18:46

P3kingDuck · 24/05/2024 19:55

Dh thinks not.

So I’ve had to do a speed awareness course a while ago so do my best to keep to speed limits at all times.

Driving home on a curving dual carriage way on a slight tilt. 50 limit signs every few yards and a speed camera sign. The lane on the right turns into a fly over which I needed to keep on. So I was in the right hand lane driving at 50. A car came right up to my bumper and kept flashing. I stayed in the lane and pointed at the signs. He kept flashing then overtook me in a dramatic fashion, zoomed off( so breaking the speed limit) then slowed down so ended up driving not that faster than me but still over the limit.

Dh said I should have pulled over. I don’t understand why. Nobody on that road should be doing over 50 so what would be the benefit of me pulling over if I’m doing 50?

What happened that you went on a speed awareness course? What did you do wrong?

MotherJessAndKittens · 19/08/2024 18:54

If this is in the UK we drive on the left. Right is for overtaking unless otherwise directed. Although it is frustrating to be flashed at and overtaken by someone breaking the speed limit, it is not up to anyone else to try to control them.

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