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To think I had every right to be in the right hand lane when driving the speed limit on a dual carriage way

539 replies

P3kingDuck · 24/05/2024 19:55

Dh thinks not.

So I’ve had to do a speed awareness course a while ago so do my best to keep to speed limits at all times.

Driving home on a curving dual carriage way on a slight tilt. 50 limit signs every few yards and a speed camera sign. The lane on the right turns into a fly over which I needed to keep on. So I was in the right hand lane driving at 50. A car came right up to my bumper and kept flashing. I stayed in the lane and pointed at the signs. He kept flashing then overtook me in a dramatic fashion, zoomed off( so breaking the speed limit) then slowed down so ended up driving not that faster than me but still over the limit.

Dh said I should have pulled over. I don’t understand why. Nobody on that road should be doing over 50 so what would be the benefit of me pulling over if I’m doing 50?

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caringcarer · 26/05/2024 00:41

If you were overtaking it is ok to be in the right hand lane. If you weren't overtaking no need for you to be put in the left lane.

sashh · 26/05/2024 04:00

Dh said I should have pulled over. I don’t understand why. Nobody on that road should be doing over 50 so what would be the benefit of me pulling over if I’m doing 50?

The benefit is the idiot is in front of you and not going to run in to you if you have to break.

Yalta · 26/05/2024 06:27

caringcarer · 26/05/2024 00:41

If you were overtaking it is ok to be in the right hand lane. If you weren't overtaking no need for you to be put in the left lane.

Apart from when the road is splitting off and you don’t want to go to the left lane destinations

personally I would have stayed doing the speed limit until just before the speed camera and then pulled to the left
The flash of the speed camera would have made it satisfying

PrettySenior · 26/05/2024 07:09

I'm sure the responses on this thread are due to the way you worded your post. If you'd said you needed to be in the right hand lane because the road was splitting in less than a mile and you needed to go right I suspect people would overwhelmingly have been on your side. It's because you mentioned that the other car was speeding as if you were somehow policing this that you got the responses you did.

StressedOutButProudMama · 26/05/2024 07:11

Surrey Police posted about this quite recently on twitter and made it clear that The road Hogger or the right was the car they'd always pull. The said to be sitting doing speed limit in this lane is not what it was intended for and if a car had to undertake even if it temporarily slipped over the speed limit, they'd still pull the road Hogger first. They also shared a video of a driver hogging a lane despite no other drivers been affected they received £100 fine and three penalty points for careless driving. You should always stick left unless overtaking. Doesn't matter what you think of other drivers he shouldn't of gone over speed but in effect your driving was what made him do so.

Babyboomtastic · 26/05/2024 08:01

if a car had to undertake even if it temporarily slipped over the speed limit, they'd still pull the road Hogger first.

Why would a car HAVE to undertake if the OP was doing the speed limit? They may hard down to do so, and therefore to break the speed law, but that doesn't make it necessary or legal for them to do it.

OliBolsMum · 26/05/2024 08:09

YANBU - It's not an overtaking lane.

Everyone seems to be confusing motorways with a dual carriage way, which have different rules.

Motorways - all traffic should be to the left, right hand lanes are for overtaking as there are no junctions on the right.

Dual Carrigeway - both lanes do the same job, you pick the most appropriate lane for your journey.

vickylou78 · 26/05/2024 08:23

OliBolsMum · 26/05/2024 08:09

YANBU - It's not an overtaking lane.

Everyone seems to be confusing motorways with a dual carriage way, which have different rules.

Motorways - all traffic should be to the left, right hand lanes are for overtaking as there are no junctions on the right.

Dual Carrigeway - both lanes do the same job, you pick the most appropriate lane for your journey.

People are not confused!! The highway code literally says about dual carriageways that you should stay left and the right hand lane is for overtaking or using if you are turning right.

Katywester · 26/05/2024 08:24

If someone wants to go over the speed limit then it’s not your place to control them not to. Regardless of whether you caught up to them in the end and nothing gained. Not your business
it was more dangerous you being unwilling to move in to let them by. Right lane is for overtaking only…

SneezedToothOut · 26/05/2024 08:25

OliBolsMum · 26/05/2024 08:09

YANBU - It's not an overtaking lane.

Everyone seems to be confusing motorways with a dual carriage way, which have different rules.

Motorways - all traffic should be to the left, right hand lanes are for overtaking as there are no junctions on the right.

Dual Carrigeway - both lanes do the same job, you pick the most appropriate lane for your journey.

Please hand back your licence.

Sirzy · 26/05/2024 08:27

OliBolsMum · 26/05/2024 08:09

YANBU - It's not an overtaking lane.

Everyone seems to be confusing motorways with a dual carriage way, which have different rules.

Motorways - all traffic should be to the left, right hand lanes are for overtaking as there are no junctions on the right.

Dual Carrigeway - both lanes do the same job, you pick the most appropriate lane for your journey.

Maybe spend a bit of time reading the Highway Code before you next drive!

Shade17 · 26/05/2024 08:43

OliBolsMum · 26/05/2024 08:09

YANBU - It's not an overtaking lane.

Everyone seems to be confusing motorways with a dual carriage way, which have different rules.

Motorways - all traffic should be to the left, right hand lanes are for overtaking as there are no junctions on the right.

Dual Carrigeway - both lanes do the same job, you pick the most appropriate lane for your journey.

WTF are you on about? Also, DCs can have one, two or more lanes.

Dbank · 26/05/2024 08:47

I understand your point, that you were doing the speed limit, but it sounds like you were in the wrong lane.

OldPerson · 26/05/2024 08:51

Yalta · 26/05/2024 06:27

Apart from when the road is splitting off and you don’t want to go to the left lane destinations

personally I would have stayed doing the speed limit until just before the speed camera and then pulled to the left
The flash of the speed camera would have made it satisfying

A car is supposed to take you from A to B. Unfortunately human beings with stupid egos and trying to get one-up-manship drive these vehicles. You may have big powerful vehicles to drive you around with the potential to kill people - but once you've enraged someone, what have you really achieved? Just a more stupid, enraged, angry person on the road. Did you cure their stupidity? Did you make the road safer? Do you not think they can clock up speeding points and reckless driving points all by themselves? Do you not think every car crash full of dead teenagers are the probably the same a-holes flashing you to feel their power?

Rottweilermummy · 26/05/2024 08:58

It's none of our business to control other people's speed, I say let them get a ticket and best to be 5 mins slower in this life than 10 earlier in next, 🤣 But u should have pulled over right lane is afor overtaking

WomanMumLoverDaughterStepmumFriend · 26/05/2024 11:02

Babyboomtastic · 26/05/2024 08:01

if a car had to undertake even if it temporarily slipped over the speed limit, they'd still pull the road Hogger first.

Why would a car HAVE to undertake if the OP was doing the speed limit? They may hard down to do so, and therefore to break the speed law, but that doesn't make it necessary or legal for them to do it.

There are a few reasons and cars are allowed to go over the speed limit to safely overtake . One of the best reasons is if the driver ahead of you doesn’t drive safely . I do roughly 30000 a year driving and there is nothing more dangerous than going behind a car that breaks all the time as a example or at every cornering ,they are also normally those hogging lines and getting upset for being overtaken despite their ability to drive being awful . The road is not ours individually, if people want to overtake let them . Do not put yourself in a position to cause an accident . That
is how motorway pile ups happen

OliBolsMum · 26/05/2024 11:10

Shade17 · 26/05/2024 08:43

WTF are you on about? Also, DCs can have one, two or more lanes.

And 'Dual Carriageways' are defined as roads with 60 or 70 mph speedlimits, so if OP was on a road that was 50mph, then they were driving on a road with multiple carrigeways, NOT a dual carriageway.

SneezedToothOut · 26/05/2024 11:19

OliBolsMum · 26/05/2024 11:10

And 'Dual Carriageways' are defined as roads with 60 or 70 mph speedlimits, so if OP was on a road that was 50mph, then they were driving on a road with multiple carrigeways, NOT a dual carriageway.

No they aren’t. 🤦🏻‍♀️

https://www.highwaycodeuk.co.uk/multi-lane-carriageways.html

Multi-lane carriageways (133 to 143)

If you need to change lane, first use your mirrors and if necessary take a quick sideways glance to make sure you will not force another road user to change course or speed.

https://www.highwaycodeuk.co.uk/multi-lane-carriageways.html

Sirzy · 26/05/2024 11:21

OliBolsMum · 26/05/2024 11:10

And 'Dual Carriageways' are defined as roads with 60 or 70 mph speedlimits, so if OP was on a road that was 50mph, then they were driving on a road with multiple carrigeways, NOT a dual carriageway.

A dual carriageway is a road where the two carriageways are physically separated. It has nothing to do with speed or number of lanes

Flozle · 26/05/2024 11:24

P3kingDuck · 24/05/2024 20:27

It’s confusing because everybody sits in that right hand lane due to where it’s going .

It's not confusing OP: they are also wrong. Until the road markings indicate that the lane is specifically intended to exit the carriageway you stay in the left hand lane. I imagine he was so irate because you were hogging the overtaking lane.

Bugbabe1970 · 26/05/2024 11:34

just Pull over - if they want to break the speed limit it’s up to them!
The right hand lane is for over taking so yes you were in the wrong!

Everanewbie · 26/05/2024 11:42

Bugbabe1970 · 26/05/2024 11:34

just Pull over - if they want to break the speed limit it’s up to them!
The right hand lane is for over taking so yes you were in the wrong!

I’m tired of saying this. OP explained that the road diverged, ie left lane is for the A303, right lane for the A404. OP required A404 and therefore needed the right lane. She inferred that she had passed signs had told her that she needed to be in the right lane for the A404 and it was “way less than a mile” until the split. Moving over to move back seconds later would have been a far more dangerous manoeuvre.

As a pp has mentioned, maybe if op had been worded differently, explaining she was in the right lane for branching right as per road signs with less than s mile to go, we wouldn’t have this “left lane, end of” torrent of responses.

fromthegecko · 26/05/2024 11:47

Everanewbie · 26/05/2024 11:42

I’m tired of saying this. OP explained that the road diverged, ie left lane is for the A303, right lane for the A404. OP required A404 and therefore needed the right lane. She inferred that she had passed signs had told her that she needed to be in the right lane for the A404 and it was “way less than a mile” until the split. Moving over to move back seconds later would have been a far more dangerous manoeuvre.

As a pp has mentioned, maybe if op had been worded differently, explaining she was in the right lane for branching right as per road signs with less than s mile to go, we wouldn’t have this “left lane, end of” torrent of responses.

But the right lane is only for overtaking. End of!

(Only kidding.)

SneezedToothOut · 26/05/2024 11:50

Everanewbie · 26/05/2024 11:42

I’m tired of saying this. OP explained that the road diverged, ie left lane is for the A303, right lane for the A404. OP required A404 and therefore needed the right lane. She inferred that she had passed signs had told her that she needed to be in the right lane for the A404 and it was “way less than a mile” until the split. Moving over to move back seconds later would have been a far more dangerous manoeuvre.

As a pp has mentioned, maybe if op had been worded differently, explaining she was in the right lane for branching right as per road signs with less than s mile to go, we wouldn’t have this “left lane, end of” torrent of responses.

I’d personally like to see an annotated Google map of the road concerned.

”less than a mile” could still be far enough away from the split to not warrant being in the right hand lane. Where did the road markings change?

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