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To think I had every right to be in the right hand lane when driving the speed limit on a dual carriage way

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P3kingDuck · 24/05/2024 19:55

Dh thinks not.

So I’ve had to do a speed awareness course a while ago so do my best to keep to speed limits at all times.

Driving home on a curving dual carriage way on a slight tilt. 50 limit signs every few yards and a speed camera sign. The lane on the right turns into a fly over which I needed to keep on. So I was in the right hand lane driving at 50. A car came right up to my bumper and kept flashing. I stayed in the lane and pointed at the signs. He kept flashing then overtook me in a dramatic fashion, zoomed off( so breaking the speed limit) then slowed down so ended up driving not that faster than me but still over the limit.

Dh said I should have pulled over. I don’t understand why. Nobody on that road should be doing over 50 so what would be the benefit of me pulling over if I’m doing 50?

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P3kingDuck · 26/05/2024 11:50

Everanewbie · 26/05/2024 11:42

I’m tired of saying this. OP explained that the road diverged, ie left lane is for the A303, right lane for the A404. OP required A404 and therefore needed the right lane. She inferred that she had passed signs had told her that she needed to be in the right lane for the A404 and it was “way less than a mile” until the split. Moving over to move back seconds later would have been a far more dangerous manoeuvre.

As a pp has mentioned, maybe if op had been worded differently, explaining she was in the right lane for branching right as per road signs with less than s mile to go, we wouldn’t have this “left lane, end of” torrent of responses.

This^also I posted a looong time ago that I’ve moved on. A gazillion posts saying the same thing after that is a bit pointless( and dull).

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Shade17 · 26/05/2024 11:53

OliBolsMum · 26/05/2024 11:10

And 'Dual Carriageways' are defined as roads with 60 or 70 mph speedlimits, so if OP was on a road that was 50mph, then they were driving on a road with multiple carrigeways, NOT a dual carriageway.

Errr, no

shearwater2 · 26/05/2024 11:54

I would just pull over as it's best to just let the Audi dick go and get out of your way. Unless I was nearly at the junction and in the correct lane, or completing an overtaking manoeuvre and it was not safe to pull in, or we are in a set of roadworks where you are mean to stay in lane.

pootlin · 26/05/2024 11:59

Everanewbie · 26/05/2024 11:42

I’m tired of saying this. OP explained that the road diverged, ie left lane is for the A303, right lane for the A404. OP required A404 and therefore needed the right lane. She inferred that she had passed signs had told her that she needed to be in the right lane for the A404 and it was “way less than a mile” until the split. Moving over to move back seconds later would have been a far more dangerous manoeuvre.

As a pp has mentioned, maybe if op had been worded differently, explaining she was in the right lane for branching right as per road signs with less than s mile to go, we wouldn’t have this “left lane, end of” torrent of responses.

And we’re tired of saying this. OP’s AIBU wasn’t that she stayed in the right hand lane because her exit was a mile away, that was a convenient drip feed. Her AIB was ‘Nobody on that road should be doing over 50 so what would be the benefit of me pulling over if I’m doing 50?’?

She absolutely was trying to police other people’s driving.

AnnieSnap · 26/05/2024 12:00

P3kingDuck · 26/05/2024 11:50

This^also I posted a looong time ago that I’ve moved on. A gazillion posts saying the same thing after that is a bit pointless( and dull).

You asked if you were right or wrong. You seem to have moved on in a huff (correct me if I’m wrong). Have you taken on board what people responding to your question?

P3kingDuck · 26/05/2024 12:04

AnnieSnap · 26/05/2024 12:00

You asked if you were right or wrong. You seem to have moved on in a huff (correct me if I’m wrong). Have you taken on board what people responding to your question?

No I was told to stop arguing so I am no longer posting. I’m pretty sure I also posted that I had taken posts on board. Not that I have to justify anything.

As you were.

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SneezedToothOut · 26/05/2024 12:19

Still think you should share a screenshot of the road concerned.

blablasmthsmth · 26/05/2024 13:02

"And we’re tired of saying this. OP’s AIBU wasn’t that she stayed in the right hand lane because her exit was a mile away, that was a convenient drip feed. Her AIB was ‘Nobody on that road should be doing over 50 so what would be the benefit of me pulling over if I’m doing 50?’?

She absolutely was trying to police other people’s driving."

She didn't drip feed the info at all, it's in the OP "The lane on the right turns into a fly over which I needed to keep on". As soon as the signage indicates that the lanes split into different roads, the right hand lane stops being for overtaking and becomes a different road. PPs telling her that the aggressive twat had more right to be on the right side than she did, telling her to get the fuck over unless she's overtaking etc are wrong because as soon as the lanes split there is no more space for overtaking on that stretch, you just have to be patient until there is somewhere to overtake safely.

OP wasn't wrong at all. The other driver was 100% in the wrong and is a danger on the road. that is the type of driver who causes accidents.

And I say all this as someone with a heavy foot, I have to make a conscious effort to not speed and dislike middle lane pootlers who make overtaking difficult. But sometimes you have to just be patient and wait your turn, especially when there's only one lane as in the OP, because you're not more entitled to the roads than anyone else.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 26/05/2024 13:06

P3kingDuck · 25/05/2024 06:58

It absolutely was not 10 miles up the road, it was less than a mile.

@P3kingDuck - was there enough time before the road split for you to move back into the left hand lane, then move out again, to go the way you needed to go?

If there was, you should have moved over. If not, then staying in the right hand lane, and driving to the speed limit was acceptable.

Lulu49 · 26/05/2024 14:21

Often when it's 50 on a major road it's cos there are road works and there are signs saying stay in your lane so if that were the case then you were in the right to stay in that lane.

Caffeineislife · 26/05/2024 14:24

Everyone knows the right hand lane is for crime.

Kjpt140v · 26/05/2024 14:32

Ah, you're one of them are you.

unbelievablescenes · 26/05/2024 14:37

There will be an indication on the road of where it's appropriate to sit in that lane in anticipation of where to get in lane for the exit in the form of a get in late sign and/or the while lines getting closer together on the road. If you were beyond this it doesn't matter what speed you're doing, it's fine to be in that lane not overtaking. If you weren't yet at that point, regardless of speed, if not overtaking you should be back in the left lane. On clear dual carriageway, the speed people are going is irrelevant to what lane you should be in. It's fairly plain and simple...not overtaking - left. Overtaking - right. End of.

pootlin · 26/05/2024 14:51

blablasmthsmth · 26/05/2024 13:02

"And we’re tired of saying this. OP’s AIBU wasn’t that she stayed in the right hand lane because her exit was a mile away, that was a convenient drip feed. Her AIB was ‘Nobody on that road should be doing over 50 so what would be the benefit of me pulling over if I’m doing 50?’?

She absolutely was trying to police other people’s driving."

She didn't drip feed the info at all, it's in the OP "The lane on the right turns into a fly over which I needed to keep on". As soon as the signage indicates that the lanes split into different roads, the right hand lane stops being for overtaking and becomes a different road. PPs telling her that the aggressive twat had more right to be on the right side than she did, telling her to get the fuck over unless she's overtaking etc are wrong because as soon as the lanes split there is no more space for overtaking on that stretch, you just have to be patient until there is somewhere to overtake safely.

OP wasn't wrong at all. The other driver was 100% in the wrong and is a danger on the road. that is the type of driver who causes accidents.

And I say all this as someone with a heavy foot, I have to make a conscious effort to not speed and dislike middle lane pootlers who make overtaking difficult. But sometimes you have to just be patient and wait your turn, especially when there's only one lane as in the OP, because you're not more entitled to the roads than anyone else.

No, you’ve missed the point, she drip fed later that the exit was a mile away. That info was not in her OP. She said that when the thread wasn’t going her way. Her AIBU was very much “Nobody on that road should be doing over 50 so what would be the benefit of me pulling over if I’m doing 50?’?”

LivelyBlake · 26/05/2024 14:56

pootlin · 26/05/2024 14:51

No, you’ve missed the point, she drip fed later that the exit was a mile away. That info was not in her OP. She said that when the thread wasn’t going her way. Her AIBU was very much “Nobody on that road should be doing over 50 so what would be the benefit of me pulling over if I’m doing 50?’?”

It was very clear from the beginning that the OP was on the right hand lane because she needed to take an exit. Then the "Oh you're one of those" brigade came on the thread and this was conveniently forgotten.

SneezedToothOut · 26/05/2024 14:56

Lulu49 · 26/05/2024 14:21

Often when it's 50 on a major road it's cos there are road works and there are signs saying stay in your lane so if that were the case then you were in the right to stay in that lane.

The OP would surely have mentioned roadworks were they relevant.

(Miles and miles of the M4 have a 50mph limit, by the way, even without roadworks.)

bananaramaterry · 26/05/2024 15:21

Lulu49 · 26/05/2024 14:21

Often when it's 50 on a major road it's cos there are road works and there are signs saying stay in your lane so if that were the case then you were in the right to stay in that lane.

With the amount of detail from OP, she would've said this.

Teledeluxe · 26/05/2024 16:15

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blablasmthsmth · 26/05/2024 16:47

"No, you’ve missed the point, she drip fed later that the exit was a mile away. That info was not in her OP. She said that when the thread wasn’t going her way. Her AIBU was very much “Nobody on that road should be doing over 50 so what would be the benefit of me pulling over if I’m doing 50?’?”"

No, she made it clear from the very first post the reason she was in the right hand lane. I took the "I was going the speed limit" comments as the OP making the point that they had no need to aggressively tailgate and then dangerously undertake her for the short time they were down to one lane because she wasn't driving below the limit. There was no reason for them to behave that way.

The posters saying they would've done the same have shown themselves to be pig headed, arrogant and entitled.

blablasmthsmth · 26/05/2024 16:48

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Amazing input there 🥴

GentlemanJohnny · 26/05/2024 17:13

I with DH. Your driving was dangerous.

shearwater2 · 26/05/2024 18:13

blablasmthsmth · 26/05/2024 16:47

"No, you’ve missed the point, she drip fed later that the exit was a mile away. That info was not in her OP. She said that when the thread wasn’t going her way. Her AIBU was very much “Nobody on that road should be doing over 50 so what would be the benefit of me pulling over if I’m doing 50?’?”"

No, she made it clear from the very first post the reason she was in the right hand lane. I took the "I was going the speed limit" comments as the OP making the point that they had no need to aggressively tailgate and then dangerously undertake her for the short time they were down to one lane because she wasn't driving below the limit. There was no reason for them to behave that way.

The posters saying they would've done the same have shown themselves to be pig headed, arrogant and entitled.

Completely agree. Christ, there are a lot of angry idiots on the road. With shit reading skills as well, apparently.

Fatnold · 26/05/2024 19:25

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Grow up

gillefc82 · 26/05/2024 20:13

blablasmthsmth · 26/05/2024 13:02

"And we’re tired of saying this. OP’s AIBU wasn’t that she stayed in the right hand lane because her exit was a mile away, that was a convenient drip feed. Her AIB was ‘Nobody on that road should be doing over 50 so what would be the benefit of me pulling over if I’m doing 50?’?

She absolutely was trying to police other people’s driving."

She didn't drip feed the info at all, it's in the OP "The lane on the right turns into a fly over which I needed to keep on". As soon as the signage indicates that the lanes split into different roads, the right hand lane stops being for overtaking and becomes a different road. PPs telling her that the aggressive twat had more right to be on the right side than she did, telling her to get the fuck over unless she's overtaking etc are wrong because as soon as the lanes split there is no more space for overtaking on that stretch, you just have to be patient until there is somewhere to overtake safely.

OP wasn't wrong at all. The other driver was 100% in the wrong and is a danger on the road. that is the type of driver who causes accidents.

And I say all this as someone with a heavy foot, I have to make a conscious effort to not speed and dislike middle lane pootlers who make overtaking difficult. But sometimes you have to just be patient and wait your turn, especially when there's only one lane as in the OP, because you're not more entitled to the roads than anyone else.

Actually quite a number of PPs have just been advising the OP that the most sensible option in that scenario is to let the speeding, tailgating idiot pass so their poor driving becomes someone else’s problem. Defensive driving 101.

As I said in my post, you don’t know who may be behind the wheel of a car nowadays, so it just isn’t worth agitating and escalating a situation (gesturing at speed limit signs etc) when there’s the real risk it could end up with your car being forced off the road, you being pulled out of it by your hair and having ten bells of sh*t kicked out of you.

But hey, at least whilst enjoying that long wait in A&E for treatment, the OP would be comforted by the moral superiority and satisfaction that comes from knowing she stopped the other driver from getting in front.

Just not worth it.

rwalker · 26/05/2024 20:54

I’m amazed how many peoples priority is being right rather then being safe

btw Op was in the wrong