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To think I had every right to be in the right hand lane when driving the speed limit on a dual carriage way

539 replies

P3kingDuck · 24/05/2024 19:55

Dh thinks not.

So I’ve had to do a speed awareness course a while ago so do my best to keep to speed limits at all times.

Driving home on a curving dual carriage way on a slight tilt. 50 limit signs every few yards and a speed camera sign. The lane on the right turns into a fly over which I needed to keep on. So I was in the right hand lane driving at 50. A car came right up to my bumper and kept flashing. I stayed in the lane and pointed at the signs. He kept flashing then overtook me in a dramatic fashion, zoomed off( so breaking the speed limit) then slowed down so ended up driving not that faster than me but still over the limit.

Dh said I should have pulled over. I don’t understand why. Nobody on that road should be doing over 50 so what would be the benefit of me pulling over if I’m doing 50?

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Cheerstoyoutoo · 25/05/2024 07:57

MultiplaLight · 25/05/2024 07:10

Here's the highway code. You are wrong.

How is she wrong when she was turning right?

AnotherNightAnotherName · 25/05/2024 08:13

In multi-lane motorways often there are very long stretches of 50mph, and the cars don’t all move over to the leftmost lane, they stay in 3-4 lanes all going 50. (I find it really nice and relaxing)

If flashed I would have probably moved in in case it was an undercover cop or something. But I wouldn’t rush over.

Topofthemountain · 25/05/2024 08:19

MultiplaLight · 25/05/2024 07:10

Here's the highway code. You are wrong.

Again, Rule 266

266
Approaching a junction. Look well ahead for signals, signs and road markings. Direction signs may be placed over the road. If you need to, you should change lanes well ahead of a junction. At some junctions, a lane may lead directly off the road. Only get in that lane if you wish to go in the direction indicated by signs or road markings.

Babyonemorekiss · 25/05/2024 08:21

Everanewbie · 24/05/2024 20:34

Hi OP. Folks on here are loving the opportunity to pile in with “unless you are overtaking, stay left” Yes. That is the general rule. But motorways split and it isn’t good driving to stay in lane 1 when you need to be in lane 3 or 4 in half a mile. This really depends how long it was until the point you needed to be in the correct lane for your exit. 5 miles, yes, you’re wrong. 1 mile, maybe 2 miles? You were right.

It’s not your job to police other people’s speed and that is dangerous. But neither should you be forced to take a dangerous last minute manoeuvre or miss your turning because some meat head thinks the motorway is their personal race track.

No wonder there such rubbish driving around if people feel it's 'good driving' to move lanes 1or2 miles before an exit!!

Topofthemountain · 25/05/2024 08:21

Greenleavesinthesun · 25/05/2024 07:53

It’s people like you that cause accidents.

No it isn't.

Everanewbie · 25/05/2024 08:32

DragonGypsyDoris · 24/05/2024 23:17

You should have been in the inside (left) lane. No defence.

The right lane was a slip road!!!

MsCheeryble · 25/05/2024 08:37

P3kingDuck · 24/05/2024 20:04

So we don’t need to adhere to the speed limit?

You need to adhere to the speed limit. You also need to adhere to the rule about sticking to the left hand lane unless you are overtaking or, as in your example, you need to be in the lane because the road is about to split.

You are not justified in breaking one rule (about the use of overtaking lanes) purely because you are complying with another (about speed limits). That's just basic.

bananaramaterry · 25/05/2024 08:38

AnotherNightAnotherName · 25/05/2024 08:13

In multi-lane motorways often there are very long stretches of 50mph, and the cars don’t all move over to the leftmost lane, they stay in 3-4 lanes all going 50. (I find it really nice and relaxing)

If flashed I would have probably moved in in case it was an undercover cop or something. But I wouldn’t rush over.

Middle lane joggers "find it relaxing"

That's fine then 🙄

bananaramaterry · 25/05/2024 08:39
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BustyLaRoux · 25/05/2024 08:40

Is this one of those instances where an OP asks if they were unreasonable. Is told by 98% that they were, but then argues with everyone that they weren’t?

MsCheeryble · 25/05/2024 08:41

P3kingDuck · 24/05/2024 20:08

Quite close. Would have had to cross back very quickly and the lane turns into a one lane bridge ie you need your wits about you so really don’t think anybody should be approaching it over the limit.

You can't have been that close if there was time for everything you describe in your OP to happen before you pulled onto the flyover. It sounds very much like you could have moved into the left hand lane when you saw the car approaching behind you and moved back again in good time before the road split.

Everanewbie · 25/05/2024 08:42

Babyonemorekiss · 25/05/2024 08:21

No wonder there such rubbish driving around if people feel it's 'good driving' to move lanes 1or2 miles before an exit!!

Don’t be daft. You think it’s safer to change lanes 250 yards from an exit? Good grief. So many of you are all caught up with this stay left mantra that you can’t see the wood through the tree.

MsCheeryble · 25/05/2024 08:43

P3kingDuck · 24/05/2024 20:20

This wasn’t a lorry or an emergency vehicle it was an arsehole. He clearly had no reason to overtake, he just wanted to be in front. He then stayed in the right hand lane!!! Why did he have more right to be there than me?

Because he actually wanted to overtake, you didn't, and it's an overtaking lane.

MsCheeryble · 25/05/2024 08:45

P3kingDuck · 24/05/2024 20:35

So I should have weaved in and out in the run up to it going down to one lane over a bridge when both lanes had cars in because an arsehole wanted to be in front speeding with cars in front of him and behind on both lanes?

No, you should have stayed in the left hand lane till you actually needed to move over.

SneezedToothOut · 25/05/2024 08:46

Everanewbie · 25/05/2024 08:42

Don’t be daft. You think it’s safer to change lanes 250 yards from an exit? Good grief. So many of you are all caught up with this stay left mantra that you can’t see the wood through the tree.

Given the marker signs start at 300 metres……. You know, 3-2-1.

Everanewbie · 25/05/2024 08:49

SneezedToothOut · 25/05/2024 08:46

Given the marker signs start at 300 metres……. You know, 3-2-1.

They’re pretty much a last warning. And tend to only be when exiting a slip road rather than a lane split on a du carriageway.

fromthegecko · 25/05/2024 08:52

YABU for not giving us enough information and DH is BU for judging you without that information (or was he with you at the time?).

There are two possible extreme scenarios and a range of scenarios in-between.

One. Both lanes are full of fast-moving traffic, most, but not all, of which are already in the lane they need for the imminent lane divergence, and everyone needs to be on the lookout for dozy last-minute lane-changers. Because the two lanes are going to different destinations, the normal speed differential between lanes may have begun to break down.

In scenario one, I would sit tight.

Two. The road is empty as far as the eye can see. Nor am I yet on top of the lane divergence. I would pull over to allow passing.

What was your scenario @P3kingDuck ?

MsCheeryble · 25/05/2024 08:56

Nesbi · 24/05/2024 20:52

surely it is everyone’s job to control the speed limit - it takes a village to raise a child and all that.

In what other situations are we perfectly content to accept that people should be bystanders to lawbreaking? Do you step aside to let someone be mugged?

How can it be everyone's job to control the speed limit, especially on a dual carriageway or motorway?

It most emphatically is not everyone's job to control it by ignoring other important safety rules under the Highway Code.

MsCheeryble · 25/05/2024 08:58

P3kingDuck · 24/05/2024 20:55

But then he just sat in front of me.

So what? How does that affect your decision at the point when you were refusing to move over?

NotMeNoNo · 25/05/2024 08:58

The highway code says Use the right lane for overtaking or turning right.

Most motorway junctions have a one mile and half mile advance direction sign. This is to give drivers time to get in the correct lane. Once you've passed a sign showing lane 2 for your slip road or whatever you are fine to use that lane.

mytitshaveshrunk · 25/05/2024 09:00

Ah, another AIBU where the OP just wants validation, doesn't get it and just keeps insisting she's right. YOU ARE WRONG OP. ACCEPT IT AND MOVE ON. I see women driving like you on motorways every fucking day and the INDEFENSIBLE driving of these women makes me ashamed to be a woman.

MsCheeryble · 25/05/2024 09:02

BobnLen · 24/05/2024 21:15

Since no one on this thread was there they don't know how soon OP's exit was or how busy it was or anything so how can they be so sure OP was wrong, I didn't vote as I wasn't there to give a valid opinion.

On OP's own description of events, she had more than enough time to move over, particularly if she was checking her mirror properly so that she could have started moving when she saw the car behind approaching.

Whatineed · 25/05/2024 09:03

P3kingDuck · 24/05/2024 20:04

So we don’t need to adhere to the speed limit?

Yes you do need to adhere to the speed limit, but it's not up to you to control others.

If they want to drive like w#nkers it's up to them to deal with the risk. If you aren't overtaking you stay in the left lane.

MsCheeryble · 25/05/2024 09:07

P3kingDuck · 25/05/2024 07:02

I said quite the reverse actually. Any speeding isn’t great but I have never had any driving conviction and I’m vigilant now. I would have had to go over the limit to pull safely in front of the cars on the left.

Yet the car behind you managed to get into that lane safely and back into yours, despite the fact that when he started the manoeuvre he can't have been going any faster than you.

Topofthemountain · 25/05/2024 09:13

Yet the car behind you managed to get into that lane safely and back into yours

We have no idea how safely that other driver managed to do this. Given the manner of his driving until that point I wouldn't be certain enough to state that he did it safely.