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To think I had every right to be in the right hand lane when driving the speed limit on a dual carriage way

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P3kingDuck · 24/05/2024 19:55

Dh thinks not.

So I’ve had to do a speed awareness course a while ago so do my best to keep to speed limits at all times.

Driving home on a curving dual carriage way on a slight tilt. 50 limit signs every few yards and a speed camera sign. The lane on the right turns into a fly over which I needed to keep on. So I was in the right hand lane driving at 50. A car came right up to my bumper and kept flashing. I stayed in the lane and pointed at the signs. He kept flashing then overtook me in a dramatic fashion, zoomed off( so breaking the speed limit) then slowed down so ended up driving not that faster than me but still over the limit.

Dh said I should have pulled over. I don’t understand why. Nobody on that road should be doing over 50 so what would be the benefit of me pulling over if I’m doing 50?

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bananaramaterry · 25/05/2024 09:14

Topofthemountain · 25/05/2024 09:13

Yet the car behind you managed to get into that lane safely and back into yours

We have no idea how safely that other driver managed to do this. Given the manner of his driving until that point I wouldn't be certain enough to state that he did it safely.

It OP did t mention amongst all the detail that it was unsafe?

You'd have thought she would.

Byronada · 25/05/2024 09:16

Wrong. People like you cause accidents.

P3kingDuck · 25/05/2024 09:17

mytitshaveshrunk · 25/05/2024 09:00

Ah, another AIBU where the OP just wants validation, doesn't get it and just keeps insisting she's right. YOU ARE WRONG OP. ACCEPT IT AND MOVE ON. I see women driving like you on motorways every fucking day and the INDEFENSIBLE driving of these women makes me ashamed to be a woman.

Ok I’m moving on now, don’t want you to be ashamed to be a woman. 😳I’m guessing it’s only women who drive like me and all men are perfect drivers. I take on board everything.

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Topofthemountain · 25/05/2024 09:19

Byronada · 25/05/2024 09:16

Wrong. People like you cause accidents.

No they don't.

MsCheeryble · 25/05/2024 09:23

Topofthemountain · 25/05/2024 09:13

Yet the car behind you managed to get into that lane safely and back into yours

We have no idea how safely that other driver managed to do this. Given the manner of his driving until that point I wouldn't be certain enough to state that he did it safely.

Something tells me that if he had hit another car or caused an accident OP would have said so.

GiveMeCoffeeandTV · 25/05/2024 09:25

I know a road system exactly like this - leaving the A1 to join the very bottom of the M1. You need to be in the right lane of three to join the M1.

You do need to get over in good time to avoid crossing multiple lanes of busy traffic. Everyone who knows the road, does this. They get over to the right lane with around a mile to go.

I understand OP and think you did the right thing, unless the whole rest of the road was clear, which would have enabled you to join the right lane at the last minute.

Topofthemountain · 25/05/2024 09:29

MsCheeryble · 25/05/2024 09:23

Something tells me that if he had hit another car or caused an accident OP would have said so.

I'm not sure that is actually the bar for a safe manoeuvre. Other drivers may have had to take evasive action, I know I have done so when silly cars have pulled stunts like this.

Nothing major happening is not the standard of a safe manoeuvre

Yalta · 25/05/2024 09:35

MrsTerryPratchett · 24/05/2024 20:17

This is also not true. There's obvious ones like emergency vehicles. But also sometimes a safety reason to speed. The clearest example is a lorry changing lane into your lane without looking, you have someone close behind you, nothing in front, no lane to the other side. Accelerating out of the way is safer than the alternative.

Actually even if it is to get away from a lorry changing lanes it is an offence to speed.

Imbusytodaysorry · 25/05/2024 09:36

The outside is for over taking then you move back to the left .

It NOT your job to decide what speed people do and the police will tell you this. You watch other road users and you make sure you are driving correctly . What you don’t get to do is hold back traffic .
Have you read the signs “frustration kills” It’s exactly for the people who drive like yourself .

Yalta · 25/05/2024 09:37

Imbusytodaysorry · 25/05/2024 09:36

The outside is for over taking then you move back to the left .

It NOT your job to decide what speed people do and the police will tell you this. You watch other road users and you make sure you are driving correctly . What you don’t get to do is hold back traffic .
Have you read the signs “frustration kills” It’s exactly for the people who drive like yourself .

Overtaking and being directed into that lane.

EatTheWehrmm · 25/05/2024 09:38

PP has used maths to prove the OP's statements around distance to the junction incorrect. There was no need for the OP to be hogging the right lane and blocking others from overtaking. The other driver speeding is irrelevant and absolutely nothing to do with the OP. You don't get to police other drivers.

If the other driver had the time to undertake and pull back in, you had time to do the same.

OP, you should have moved over to let the speeding driver past. Your DH was correct and the majority here agree that you are incorrect. Take it as a lesson and hopefully this will help you to be more situationally aware when driving.

Imbusytodaysorry · 25/05/2024 09:41

P3kingDuck · 24/05/2024 20:24

So he should have then have have moved back into the left, except he didn’t.

OP there is no talking to you .
You are obsessing over the other driver focus on you doing the right thing (you weren’t)
it’s not your job to police other drivers .
You were wrong accept it

I think you need some refresher driving lessons tbh .

Yalta · 25/05/2024 09:46

All those saying the outside lane is for overtaking only and you should be in the left lane until the last possible moment.

Can I assume when you approach a junction where the left hand lane is for turning left only and doesn’t say so until the last possible moment, can i assume if you are at the junction and in the right hand lane in order to go straight ahead or turn right. You will automatically let the left hand lane cars who want to go in your direction go infront of you as they are doing exactly what you said they should do

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 25/05/2024 09:46

EatTheWehrmm · 25/05/2024 09:38

PP has used maths to prove the OP's statements around distance to the junction incorrect. There was no need for the OP to be hogging the right lane and blocking others from overtaking. The other driver speeding is irrelevant and absolutely nothing to do with the OP. You don't get to police other drivers.

If the other driver had the time to undertake and pull back in, you had time to do the same.

OP, you should have moved over to let the speeding driver past. Your DH was correct and the majority here agree that you are incorrect. Take it as a lesson and hopefully this will help you to be more situationally aware when driving.

Agreed and thos that don't believe you was in the wrong need to retake their driving test, IMO

3luckystars · 25/05/2024 09:47

You are 100% wrong.

BeckersBromley · 25/05/2024 09:56

GiveMeCoffeeandTV · 25/05/2024 09:25

I know a road system exactly like this - leaving the A1 to join the very bottom of the M1. You need to be in the right lane of three to join the M1.

You do need to get over in good time to avoid crossing multiple lanes of busy traffic. Everyone who knows the road, does this. They get over to the right lane with around a mile to go.

I understand OP and think you did the right thing, unless the whole rest of the road was clear, which would have enabled you to join the right lane at the last minute.

This absolutely.

fromthegecko · 25/05/2024 09:56

EatTheWehrmm · 25/05/2024 09:38

PP has used maths to prove the OP's statements around distance to the junction incorrect. There was no need for the OP to be hogging the right lane and blocking others from overtaking. The other driver speeding is irrelevant and absolutely nothing to do with the OP. You don't get to police other drivers.

If the other driver had the time to undertake and pull back in, you had time to do the same.

OP, you should have moved over to let the speeding driver past. Your DH was correct and the majority here agree that you are incorrect. Take it as a lesson and hopefully this will help you to be more situationally aware when driving.

If the other driver had the time to undertake and pull back in, you had time to do the same.

We just don't know whether she would have been able to do this without speeding up or cutting up someone in the left hand lane.

And we don't know whether the tailgater was being closely followed by nose-to-tail traffic that would have stopped her from rejoining the right hand lane and caused her to miss her junction.

TellMeWhoTheVillainsAre · 25/05/2024 09:58

P3kingDuck · 24/05/2024 20:03

Loads of people sit in that lane because it’s a feeder lane over a road. Why would you need to overtake of the speed limit us being kept to?

Because some people speed. You said he overtook and slightly slowed down but was still going over the limit. So he wanted to drive faster than you were driving, so he wanted to pass you out in order to do that.

Topofthemountain · 25/05/2024 10:00

In this situation, yes the OP, (possibly depending on traffic conditions), should have moved over to let twat driver past. However it is wrong for posters to categorically be stating that no-one should ever be in that lane unless overtaking.

Oriunda · 25/05/2024 10:02

Sirzy · 24/05/2024 20:29

Also unless you are driving a vehicle with. Properly calibrated speedometer then when it shows 50 on your display you actually be travelling at less than 50.

Yep. Loads of speedometers where I live. My car shows 3km/h over the actual registered speed. So if the limit is 50, I can drive at 53 and adhere to the limit.

CrotchetyQuaver · 25/05/2024 10:10

Highway Code is keep left unless overtaking, so why were you in the outer lane in the first place.
Your DH is correct
Not your place to dictate the speed others travel at/block them overtaking you just because you're travelling at the speed limit for that stretch of road

Bringbackthebeaver · 25/05/2024 10:14

It's OK to be in the right lane if you have to be there to turn off soon because the road is splitting.

His behaviour was terrible - tailgating and flashing etc is not OK.

You should have moved over though, just from a safety perspective. If someone is behaving like that then they are a hazard and you need of get out of the way.

Topofthemountain · 25/05/2024 10:19

Highway Code is keep left unless overtaking, so why were you in the outer lane in the first place.

Because it is a filter lane and she needed to be there to be able to safely exit. It may well have been earlier then necessary, but it is not correct to say that one can only be in that lane to overtake.

Bromptotoo · 25/05/2024 10:22

How far from the point where the offside lane diverged did this occur?