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To think I had every right to be in the right hand lane when driving the speed limit on a dual carriage way

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P3kingDuck · 24/05/2024 19:55

Dh thinks not.

So I’ve had to do a speed awareness course a while ago so do my best to keep to speed limits at all times.

Driving home on a curving dual carriage way on a slight tilt. 50 limit signs every few yards and a speed camera sign. The lane on the right turns into a fly over which I needed to keep on. So I was in the right hand lane driving at 50. A car came right up to my bumper and kept flashing. I stayed in the lane and pointed at the signs. He kept flashing then overtook me in a dramatic fashion, zoomed off( so breaking the speed limit) then slowed down so ended up driving not that faster than me but still over the limit.

Dh said I should have pulled over. I don’t understand why. Nobody on that road should be doing over 50 so what would be the benefit of me pulling over if I’m doing 50?

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Nanaof1 · 25/05/2024 06:57

Equivo · 25/05/2024 05:20

Have you really never seen an idiot pull a dangerous manoeuvre just before a slip road/ road splitting? Just because someone who clearly had no interest in following the laws of the road managed to complete the manoeuvre doesn't mean you, who was not there, know what the distance was.

I have seen people pull this kind of move literally on a slip road.

I don't care what you've "seen". To be a "mile away" from your exit and have that kind of long interaction to be flashed, pointing at the speed limit signs etc. shows me that it was more than "way under a mile".

I am using that little used sense, that I proudly own, called common sense. Too bad it isn't so common these days. 😆🙄

P3kingDuck · 25/05/2024 06:57

Also I have never had a conviction for anything or points on my license. A speed awareness course is not classed as a driving conviction . I have also never had an accident in 35 years of driving.

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P3kingDuck · 25/05/2024 06:58

bananaramaterry · 25/05/2024 06:54

@P3kingDuck be intent on driving correctly, in the left hand lane unless overtaking or leaving the road imminently! Not ten miles up the road.

It absolutely was not 10 miles up the road, it was less than a mile.

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bananaramaterry · 25/05/2024 06:59

@P3kingDuck oh your speeding was breaking the law, but it was ok really? Not too bad, you were unlucky? Lots of people were?

That's ok then!

Different type of speeding and breaking the law, so you can decide to stay in the wrong lane as well? Anything else you're allowed to do?

Tel12 · 25/05/2024 07:01

P3kingDuck · 24/05/2024 19:58

But why did anybody need to overtake if I was doing the speed limit? We would both be getting off at the same place.

Because you are not the police

P3kingDuck · 25/05/2024 07:02

bananaramaterry · 25/05/2024 06:59

@P3kingDuck oh your speeding was breaking the law, but it was ok really? Not too bad, you were unlucky? Lots of people were?

That's ok then!

Different type of speeding and breaking the law, so you can decide to stay in the wrong lane as well? Anything else you're allowed to do?

I said quite the reverse actually. Any speeding isn’t great but I have never had any driving conviction and I’m vigilant now. I would have had to go over the limit to pull safely in front of the cars on the left.

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Purplecatshopaholic · 25/05/2024 07:03

Nope, you were being a dick. As was he, but why rise to the bait.

ScroogeMcDuckling · 25/05/2024 07:03

You should always stay in the inside lane, unless overtaking.

They are looking at prosecuting “lane hoggers”

Once you see the sign telling you about the flyover, then get ready to go in to the correct lane for the flyover.

ValueAddedTaxonomy · 25/05/2024 07:04

You seem to give several reasons why the other driver was in the wrong, but them being in the wrong does not mean you were in the right. Neither does the fact that lots of other people sit in that land before they need to be there. Just because others break the rules it doesn't give you permission to.

We can only be responsible for our own driving, not for other people's. Very often when accidents occur it is because both parties have done something wrong at the same time. Your job is to reduce the possibility that your driving will contribute to an accident.

Unless you had got to the point where you needed to be in the feeder lane in order to go the direction you wanted (which it sounds like you hadn't), you should only have been there for overtaking, regardless of whether you were travelling at the speed limit. And the fact that someone is breaking the speed limit does not give you licence to ignore your own responsibilities.

bananaramaterry · 25/05/2024 07:06

@P3kingDuck you've clearly decided you were right and come on MN as some sort of driving excellence saint.

bananaramaterry · 25/05/2024 07:06

ScroogeMcDuckling · 25/05/2024 07:03

You should always stay in the inside lane, unless overtaking.

They are looking at prosecuting “lane hoggers”

Once you see the sign telling you about the flyover, then get ready to go in to the correct lane for the flyover.

The sooner they do that the better!

Nouvellenovel · 25/05/2024 07:07

bananaramaterry · 25/05/2024 07:06

@P3kingDuck you've clearly decided you were right and come on MN as some sort of driving excellence saint.

Tbf most pp’s on here think they’re the oracle on driving etiquette.

bananaramaterry · 25/05/2024 07:07

ValueAddedTaxonomy · 25/05/2024 07:04

You seem to give several reasons why the other driver was in the wrong, but them being in the wrong does not mean you were in the right. Neither does the fact that lots of other people sit in that land before they need to be there. Just because others break the rules it doesn't give you permission to.

We can only be responsible for our own driving, not for other people's. Very often when accidents occur it is because both parties have done something wrong at the same time. Your job is to reduce the possibility that your driving will contribute to an accident.

Unless you had got to the point where you needed to be in the feeder lane in order to go the direction you wanted (which it sounds like you hadn't), you should only have been there for overtaking, regardless of whether you were travelling at the speed limit. And the fact that someone is breaking the speed limit does not give you licence to ignore your own responsibilities.

Exactly this.

Bagwyllydiart · 25/05/2024 07:08

You need to surrender your license.

rwalker · 25/05/2024 07:10

P3kingDuck · 24/05/2024 19:58

But why did anybody need to overtake if I was doing the speed limit? We would both be getting off at the same place.

They wanted to overtake and they were speeding
there speeding and you being in the wrong lane are 2 separate issues

you should of been left till you NEEDED to be in right

MultiplaLight · 25/05/2024 07:10

Here's the highway code. You are wrong.

To think I had every right to be in the right hand lane when driving the speed limit on a dual carriage way
AprilPoisson · 25/05/2024 07:12

Same reason you stick to left on motorways rather than coasting in the middle lane or fast lane.
Everyone knows that.
You are being deliberately disingenuous.

Martha877 · 25/05/2024 07:16

P3kingDuck · 25/05/2024 07:02

I said quite the reverse actually. Any speeding isn’t great but I have never had any driving conviction and I’m vigilant now. I would have had to go over the limit to pull safely in front of the cars on the left.

If there were cars on the left, then you were overtaking? How did the car behind then get past you, if you wouldn't speed up and overtake the cars on the left?

I smell bullshit

MartinsSpareCalculator · 25/05/2024 07:18

I can't fathom this because you talk of the right hand lane leading to a flyover and also talk of both lanes merging over a bridge. So on that basis I'm assuming the flyover wasn't within half a mile or so.

Your driving was wrong. You shouldn't be in an overtaking lane if you aren't overtaking. If you're driving at the signposted limit and everyone in the left lane is doing the same then you should be in there with them.

Whether someone else breaks the speed limit or sits in an overtaking lane wrongly isn't your concern, isn't for you to control and isn't a justification for your own poor driving.

BobnLen · 25/05/2024 07:35

Bagwyllydiart · 25/05/2024 07:08

You need to surrender your license.

Please manage to spell it correctly.

WhistPie · 25/05/2024 07:36

Well I did what many of the people on here said that the OP should have done, I moved from Lane 3 on the 4 lane motorway to Lane 2 because an aggressive, light flashing driver came up behind me. I'd moved into lane 3 because I wanted to stay on the motorway and the signs said get in lane. However I was then in the lane to split off onto another motorway and couldn't get back, due to traffic which wouldn't let me back in, so I ended up having to go down the other motorway. There wasn't a junction on this for 10 minutes or so, so that little diversion to get out of the way of an aggressive dickhead added almost half an hour onto my journey.

OP, if the signs had indicated the road split ahead, you were correct to be in the lane you needed, irrespective of whether you were overtaking or not.

Lanawashington · 25/05/2024 07:46

BobnLen · 25/05/2024 07:35

Please manage to spell it correctly.

You do realise licence isn’t the only spelling of it don’t you? Other countries spell it license which is perfectly acceptable. Not everyone on Mumsnet is from England

Toptotoe · 25/05/2024 07:52

That lane is for overtaking only - you have committed an offence by hogging it.

Some people may have mitigation for driving at this speed which would a defence in law.
You are on the road as another driver. You are not there to enforce the law as a vigilante driver.
In any event, as I recall, a person is allowed to exceed the speed limit for 1 twelfth of a mile if overtaking, however, this may well be old law so don't quote me on this.

Greenleavesinthesun · 25/05/2024 07:53

It’s people like you that cause accidents.

Hoppinggreen · 25/05/2024 07:57

Do you want to be right or do you want to be safe?
Thats the advice I gave DD when she started driving - its not up to you to drive for other people, you just need to get where you are going in 1 piece and if that means getting out of the way of people driving badly then do so asap.