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To think I had every right to be in the right hand lane when driving the speed limit on a dual carriage way

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P3kingDuck · 24/05/2024 19:55

Dh thinks not.

So I’ve had to do a speed awareness course a while ago so do my best to keep to speed limits at all times.

Driving home on a curving dual carriage way on a slight tilt. 50 limit signs every few yards and a speed camera sign. The lane on the right turns into a fly over which I needed to keep on. So I was in the right hand lane driving at 50. A car came right up to my bumper and kept flashing. I stayed in the lane and pointed at the signs. He kept flashing then overtook me in a dramatic fashion, zoomed off( so breaking the speed limit) then slowed down so ended up driving not that faster than me but still over the limit.

Dh said I should have pulled over. I don’t understand why. Nobody on that road should be doing over 50 so what would be the benefit of me pulling over if I’m doing 50?

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Itloggedmeoutagain · 25/05/2024 06:12

BobnLen · 25/05/2024 06:07

OP wasn't on the outside lane of a motorway though, she was on a dual carriageway that was splitting off and she was on the lane to turn right, we don't know how far from the junction it was but your post isn't the same situation, maybe read the OP

We know it was far enough for another driver to undertake after having been behind her for a bit. We know he then sat in front of her for a bit. So it's a safe bet it was enough distance for her to have been in the correct lane.

Laurama91 · 25/05/2024 06:16

P3kingDuck · 24/05/2024 20:01

He zoomed off then slowed down and got off barely seconds before me. Definitely wasn’t an emergency. Would have obviously pulled over if he had had a proper flashing light. It was just headlights.

He zoomed off because he was angry. I have done this before.

Was the 50 a circle sign? We have a slip road that has a bend and it has a recommended 50

BobnLen · 25/05/2024 06:16

Itloggedmeoutagain · 25/05/2024 06:12

We know it was far enough for another driver to undertake after having been behind her for a bit. We know he then sat in front of her for a bit. So it's a safe bet it was enough distance for her to have been in the correct lane.

Were you there? we don't know this at all, the other driver may have very dangerously moved in front of another car cutting it up when it was undertaking, do you know how busy the road was?

BobnLen · 25/05/2024 06:18

A safe bet😂😂😂

bananaramaterry · 25/05/2024 06:22

@BobnLen no one on this thread apart from OP was there, obviously!

But @Itloggedmeoutagain describes how I see the scenario as well.

Plenty of tone to move into the left hand lane and get into the right closer to the turnoff they wanted.

Typical "I'm dining the speed limit", so I'll stay where I want driver.

Just follow the Highway Code regarding dual carriageway and motorway driving. It's quite simple,

BobnLen · 25/05/2024 06:27

bananaramaterry · 25/05/2024 06:22

@BobnLen no one on this thread apart from OP was there, obviously!

But @Itloggedmeoutagain describes how I see the scenario as well.

Plenty of tone to move into the left hand lane and get into the right closer to the turnoff they wanted.

Typical "I'm dining the speed limit", so I'll stay where I want driver.

Just follow the Highway Code regarding dual carriageway and motorway driving. It's quite simple,

I don't think OP has said how busy the road was which makes a lot of difference but obviously you know as you can see the scene, we don't know if the speeding driver cut someone up moving in, you seem to know it was safe to move over though. We tow a caravan so spend a lot of time in the left lane at 60, the amount of cars cutting us up moving lanes is quite a lot. They are probably all the excellent MN drivers

Itloggedmeoutagain · 25/05/2024 06:32

BobnLen · 25/05/2024 06:16

Were you there? we don't know this at all, the other driver may have very dangerously moved in front of another car cutting it up when it was undertaking, do you know how busy the road was?

Then OP would have mentioned this.
But she didn't.

bananaramaterry · 25/05/2024 06:34

@BobnLen we know that OP has a previous speeding conviction, we know that she was intent on slowing the other driver down, we know that she indicated to the driver behind her that the speed was 50, we know that she was intent on making the other driver look like a bad driver, we know that she informed us that the other driver sped off, but then slowed down, so she's trying to put them in a bad light.

Do you not think she would've mentioned if they'd have cut someone up 🤔!

I think so, don't you?

I'm not sure that towing a caravan has any relevance to how people on MN drive, not sure of the correlation there.

bananaramaterry · 25/05/2024 06:35

@Itloggedmeoutagain snap!! We cross posted!

She mentioned every other bloody detail!

But @BobnLen tows a caravan so knows better GrinGrin

BobnLen · 25/05/2024 06:41

She may not have known if they had cut someone up, hopefully she had her eyes on what she was doing rather than what had been going on behind her with other drivers maybe cutting others up. Those speeding types are usually the ones that cross lanes at the last minute for a junction regardless of others on the road so regularly cut people up so it's their normal driving usually.

Itloggedmeoutagain · 25/05/2024 06:43

BobnLen · 25/05/2024 06:41

She may not have known if they had cut someone up, hopefully she had her eyes on what she was doing rather than what had been going on behind her with other drivers maybe cutting others up. Those speeding types are usually the ones that cross lanes at the last minute for a junction regardless of others on the road so regularly cut people up so it's their normal driving usually.

Those speeding types?
What we do know for certain is that OP has been done for speeding in the past

Lokshen · 25/05/2024 06:43

Keep left unless overtaking.

bananaramaterry · 25/05/2024 06:45

BobnLen · 25/05/2024 06:41

She may not have known if they had cut someone up, hopefully she had her eyes on what she was doing rather than what had been going on behind her with other drivers maybe cutting others up. Those speeding types are usually the ones that cross lanes at the last minute for a junction regardless of others on the road so regularly cut people up so it's their normal driving usually.

Those speeding types

Like OP GrinGrinGrinGrin

You're clearly the bestest driver ever! 🥉

But self praise is no recommendation!

bananaramaterry · 25/05/2024 06:46

BobnLen · 25/05/2024 06:41

She may not have known if they had cut someone up, hopefully she had her eyes on what she was doing rather than what had been going on behind her with other drivers maybe cutting others up. Those speeding types are usually the ones that cross lanes at the last minute for a junction regardless of others on the road so regularly cut people up so it's their normal driving usually.

You know an awful lot about other drivers, all gained from towing a caravan?

BobnLen · 25/05/2024 06:49

I probably am the best driver ever, all drivers on here are perfect, I love a good driving thread, everyone always knows exactly what was going on, nobody ever speeds apart from the OP, everyone has perfect lane discipline.

P3kingDuck · 25/05/2024 06:49

bananaramaterry · 25/05/2024 06:34

@BobnLen we know that OP has a previous speeding conviction, we know that she was intent on slowing the other driver down, we know that she indicated to the driver behind her that the speed was 50, we know that she was intent on making the other driver look like a bad driver, we know that she informed us that the other driver sped off, but then slowed down, so she's trying to put them in a bad light.

Do you not think she would've mentioned if they'd have cut someone up 🤔!

I think so, don't you?

I'm not sure that towing a caravan has any relevance to how people on MN drive, not sure of the correlation there.

I absolutely did not cut anybody up and re the speeding ticket I was slightly over 30 in a 30 mph zone. Not great but it was some time ago, in a known spot( several others were on the course for the same spot) and I’ve been vigilant since. I wasn’t intent on slowing the driver down I was intent on staying in the right lane to get off and keeping to the right speed

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BobnLen · 25/05/2024 06:51

I didn't mean you cutting people up OP, I meant the speeding driver that undertook you may have cut someone up doing that manoeuvre.

bananaramaterry · 25/05/2024 06:52

BobnLen · 25/05/2024 06:41

She may not have known if they had cut someone up, hopefully she had her eyes on what she was doing rather than what had been going on behind her with other drivers maybe cutting others up. Those speeding types are usually the ones that cross lanes at the last minute for a junction regardless of others on the road so regularly cut people up so it's their normal driving usually.

A car came right up to my bumper and kept flashing. I stayed in the lane and pointed at the signs.

OP does lie to interact with people behind her!

You're right, you'd hope she'd be concentrating on the road ahead?

bananaramaterry · 25/05/2024 06:53

BobnLen · 25/05/2024 06:49

I probably am the best driver ever, all drivers on here are perfect, I love a good driving thread, everyone always knows exactly what was going on, nobody ever speeds apart from the OP, everyone has perfect lane discipline.

Only if they're towing caravans surely?

Cass116 · 25/05/2024 06:53

I bet you’re one of those middle lane hoggers 🙄🙄🙄

bananaramaterry · 25/05/2024 06:54

@P3kingDuck be intent on driving correctly, in the left hand lane unless overtaking or leaving the road imminently! Not ten miles up the road.

Chocolateorange22 · 25/05/2024 06:55

I get where you are coming from with it's the speed limit so people should be adhering to it. However in reality most people don't. I'd have just kept in and let everyone do their own thing, if they get caught then it's their business and just move out when on top of the junction.

I ended up on a speed awareness course by trying to get out of the way of people swapping and changing lanes on a motorway (lots of off and on, splits within a couple of short junctions). Didn't pay attention and got caught doing 78mph. I now drive within the speed limits so I can totally understand your frustration at not getting caught again.

bananaramaterry · 25/05/2024 06:55

Cass116 · 25/05/2024 06:53

I bet you’re one of those middle lane hoggers 🙄🙄🙄

Clearly! But I'm doing the speed limit and you can just wait behind me!

Buffypaws · 25/05/2024 06:57

If OP did a speed awareness course then she will not have been convicted of anything. Unless she went speeding again afterwards.
I’ve done four of those fucking courses, most recently this Tuesday.
sounds like OP was in the correct lane if she had less than a mile to the split. And was driving the speed limit. This was just an aggressive driver. Excessive lane changing can slow traffic.

Supersoakers · 25/05/2024 06:57

That driver behind you was driving dangerously tailgating and flashing etc. Safest thing would have been to pull over and let him past rather than sticking to the lane on principle but he was the more dangerous driver by far.