To think that those private school parents banging on about their fees

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Seriously have misjudged how little anyone else gives a stuff??? NHS, social care, state education, public transport, bloody potholes everywhere - that’s what matters to everyone I know.
Not whether or not VAT is added to a business.

YANBU - it’s hardly the end of the world if Clemmie or Charles end up going to a state school. We have bigger things to worry about in the U.K. right now

YABU - of course everyone cares private school parents might have to pay more

Surely, entitlement or an expectation that things will go your way is the kind of character building and nurturing experience you are paying for in private schools, unlike state school kids and their parents who are well aware that 9 times out of 10 that’s not the way life works! Surely, if the Labour Party do win, it is the epitome of entitlement itself to expect a democratically elected government to implement the policies you want and disregard the manifesto!

You hope that private schools can remove the bursary children from the school. FFS Xenia even coming from you, that is quite something.

On the upside it will be far easier to get into Oxford 🥳

It won’t sort the inequalities out. My children have been privately educated. We live in a grammar county - eldest DS is at a grammar and youngest DS goes in Sept. We had planned to privately educate younger DS ( costing £30k rising to £40/ 45k per year) but instead tutored for 11+ partly due to anticipating war on the private schools if Labour gets in. We are saving seven years of fees. That money will be spent on university, second home, foreign holidays etc. How does that tackle inequality? The state is paying for schooling that we could have funded ourselves AND my child has possibly taken the place of a more deserving candidate.

The poll is currently running at 71% agreeing with the OP.

This is quite telling as Mumsnet is not representative on this issue having I suspect a higher proportion of private school parents on the site.

No wonder Starmer wants to bring it in. It's what the majority clearly want.

Min wage 11.44/hr x 40 = 457.60/week

457.6 x 52 = 23,795

23,795 x 2 = 47,590 for a couple

They pay barely 2k income tax each meaning they take home over 40k between them.

They also receive child benefit if they have children, funded childcare hours etc

No idea where you get the figure of 34k from.

@ForlornLindtBear but removing some bursaries will happen if this policy is brought in. And surely if people think private schools are bad they wouldn’t approve of bursaries either

And we kiss goodbye to SEN provision that will be a luxury of the past.

But the policy you want will make it more likely

Families priorities and plan, so they can afford the things they value. Private education obv. Not within everyone’s reach.

The research says - The tax will impact the 2.7% of day pupils (so the research says), but not boarders. So for every 100 private school day pupils, 3 will no longer afford it. Boarders not impacted.

So, parents paying higher costs of education because obviously keeping their kids in schools & so schools are not closing. These parents now not spending that money in other sectors of the economy.

The big question is where will the parents find the money - will they be buying cheaper cuts of meat, cheaper wine or gin? Asda instead of Waitrose?

Evidence? Is this your opinion or fact?

Let’s just hope that not all of Labours proposals are influenced by a mumsnet poll 😂😂

Perhaps you can ask your dentist whilst he/she is still here, as Australia are targeting all professionals now hoping to benefit from a shit show of a labour government guaranteed to pile on even more taxes and make working here absolutely pointless.

Lots of people have one child, for this reason. They can't afford 2 having the education they want and that is a bigger priority to them

Well when it comes to their definition of a woman I kinda hope they are lol

Of course they do. People support taxes they won’t ever have to pay themselves.

Unfortunately this also includes taxes where there are no net beneficiaries because people always assume that beneficiaries must exist.

Labour is intentionally making use of this ignorance. It’ll be interesting to see how this progresses if they are forced to commission a comprehensive impact assessment as it’ll not reflect well on them.

To be honest, it might lead to more rational outcomes if they were

I am predicting a hung parliament anyway.

Oh do educate yourself. Aspiration in state schools is incredibly high. Schools deal with poverty, SEN, underfunding, a MH crisis, CofL crisis…. and still push every kid to reach Ofsted requirements (which are huge) and more every day.

I don't want the policy! I am reserving judgement until I know the detail. It's some of the annoying parents on here that I can't believe are for real that is more fascinating at the moment.

Well yeh. That’s because people think it will help state education and it’s populist red meat type stuff

It doesn’t mean it will.

How can it possibly HELP state schools? Overloading them with even more kids to pay for??!!

It’s the politics of envy - nothing to do with equality.

I agree 100%
Everyone has their own concerns in context with their own lives and finances.

Interesting that someone has mentioned education otherwise thus far inti the thread. To me, if I had kids in private school then the school closed I would choose alternatives, definitely not a state school.

We are already looking at education otherwise for secondary as our area is so weak.

That too