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To feel like I have to pay this off for DD’s sake? How can I do it?

332 replies

Hyre · 21/05/2024 08:18

This situation is making me feel unwell. I have 200k left on a mortgage. I’m 36. If I don’t pay this off by the time DD is at school (ie by the time I’m 40) I feel like she is going to be at such a huge huge disadvantage in life as I am a single parent with cms that as everyone knows is unpredictable. This is causing me a lot of stress. I try and overpay but sacrifice my own eating to do this.

i don’t feel like she will have the same opportunity as a child in a two parent household otherwise. How can I achieve this? I feel constantly stressed

OP posts:
Inyournewdress · 21/05/2024 12:07

It’s the anxiety talking OP. Not all couples have two incomes. We have a similar age child, are older than you and haven’t even bought yet. Not ideal situation, but just to show that the anxiety is making you assume that everyone else has things sorted, they really don’t.

oakleaffy · 21/05/2024 12:08

SoEmbarrassed2024 · 21/05/2024 12:04

At 38 I was just taking out my 30 year mortgage as an FTB 😬

Also, a lot of people who become mortgage free at 40 do so because of an inheritance.

Met a couple {Early 30's} looking for a house locally - She didn't work, he did...I asked about how they would get a mortgage on one income...to be told it was an inheritance so no mortgage needed.

bridgetreilly · 21/05/2024 12:08

Downsize. Build savings rather than over pay. Stop panicking. A nice life is not about money. Love your daughter and take time to be with her, rather than working all hours.

CutthroatDruTheViolent · 21/05/2024 12:09

You're being ridiculous.

Many, many people - myself included - have taken mortgages out based on single incomes. And have children. If you have this mortgage alone, then the lender will have done all sorts of stress tests based on your income at the time. Even if you've had a baby and split with her father in that time, you can clearly still afford it else you would have moved, right?

Get some help with your anxiety. It isn't normal to be worried to this extent.

autumn1610 · 21/05/2024 12:11

@Hyre i haven’t read all the responses here because I imagine everyone is saying similar. But what stood out to me is you’re not eating to try and save money. Please take a moment here, you are sacrificing your health for an imaginary deadline. You could make yourself ill doing this unnecessarily, you want to be there for your daughter well don’t put unneeded stress on your body.

BIossomtoes · 21/05/2024 12:12

Ginmonkeyagain · 21/05/2024 09:28

Ha yeah all those smug "we're mortgage at 38" posts can give a false impression. At 38 I was 2 years in to my mortgage!

I hadn’t even started mine! All paid off when I was 62. I rented until my son was 15.

Bohkee · 21/05/2024 12:15

RobinHood19 · 21/05/2024 09:15

PS - my parents are still paying off their mortgage now that I’m an adult, and I’ll most likely inherit the debt once they pass (country they’re in was badly hit by the recessions so people are now on 40-50 year terms).

I do not feel for a minute that they have failed me. Money was tight growing up, they’ve never lived a life of luxury, but they did not fail their children. We learnt to stand on our two feet, and most importantly - we learnt that life isn’t always easy and sometimes you need to prioritise X over YZ.

A privileged childhood, a kid getting “all they may want or need”, doesn’t always set you up for successful adulthood. I’d rather my children grew up learning that we don’t always get what we want in life, than me being to afford every toy and activity and trip they may ask for.

Think about what values you want to teach your daughter.

PS - my parents are still paying off their mortgage now that I’m an adult, and I’ll most likely inherit the debt once they pass

Where are you that you would inherit a debt?

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 21/05/2024 12:15

When she goes to school won't you get a job? So you can pay the mortgage then?

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 21/05/2024 12:16

She's surely be much better off if you put that money into savings and could send her to private school with it if you have 50k a year to spend?

Conniebygaslight · 21/05/2024 12:16

Surely you'll have more disposable income when she starts school as you'll have less childcare costs? Why would your child be at a disadvantage when she starts school at 5 years old. I suspect most parents (single or otherwise) have mortgages when their children start school. You're not really making any sense OP just stating that she will be at a disadvantage and you worry but don't say how/why...unless we're all missing something it sounds like you've gone down an unnecessary rabbit hole. Going without food to overpay your mortgage is really not a good idea.

KeyboardMash · 21/05/2024 12:18

Hyre · 21/05/2024 11:55

Thank you. I do suffer from anxiety and it could very well be that. I feel awful DD only really has me and that if I don’t keep things going for her it all falls apart.

In the nicest possible way, you are definitely fixating on this one random thing to the point of irrationality.

Loads of families rent, which is far more precarious. There are plenty of single parents out there. Lots of two parent households only have one income. We have two incomes but my monthly pay is less than our mortgage, and I doubt that's terribly unusual. It's a big wife world out there full of lots of different advantages and disadvantages. The thought of precariousness can feel scary....but I really think it's the thought that is the problem here, not your actual situation.

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 21/05/2024 12:18

Op I'm also a single mum to a toddler and I'm doing the opposite to you, changing to interest only and increasing the length of my mortgage term so that I can reduce the payments per month while nursery is so expensive

Thudercatsrule · 21/05/2024 12:21

Even if you starve yourself can you actually afford to pay off 200k in 4 years?

BIossomtoes · 21/05/2024 12:21

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 21/05/2024 12:16

She's surely be much better off if you put that money into savings and could send her to private school with it if you have 50k a year to spend?

Why would she be better off?

LostTheMarble · 21/05/2024 12:21

Well op, I’m a single parent in a rented house, so if you’re fucking up the financial security of your child’s future with not owning a home by 40 then god knows what I’m doing 🤨

Motnight · 21/05/2024 12:26

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 21/05/2024 12:16

She's surely be much better off if you put that money into savings and could send her to private school with it if you have 50k a year to spend?

She'd be better off if her mother ate, frankly

BusyMummy001 · 21/05/2024 12:30

No idea why you think you have to pay your mortgage off in 4 years - they are set up on a 25yr+ basis for a reason. If you are funnelling all your cash/over paying to reduce it you are depriving your daughter of other things she could have with that money - holidays, extracurricular activities, quality mum/daughter experiences that will enrich both her and your relationship. Or just a bit of a nest egg for university or your retirement. The object of a mortgage is to have it paid off by the time you stop working.

As other PP’s say - I think you’re being rather ridiculous.

betterangels · 21/05/2024 12:33

Motnight · 21/05/2024 12:26

She'd be better off if her mother ate, frankly

Exactly. It's just ridiculous.

Singleandproud · 21/05/2024 12:35

The point of stretching the payment is so that you can own the expensive item and not go without.

Can you comfortably manage the normal mortgage payments? If not have you looked at downsizing?

I'm a single parent, my DD has never gone without and actually has access to more things than many of her friends with two working parents as my disposable income just goes on her. We go to the theatre alot, cinema whenever we feel like it, short breaks in the UK regularly whereas for her best friend who has two working parents and two siblings those events are very expensive. I forward plan my budget so I was already putting money away when she was at Primary school ready for the ££££ overseas trips offered at secondary school.

This is an anxiety thing not a single parent thing. The friends your child will go to school with will live in all sorts of scenarios, some will live in temporary accommodation or with other family members, some will be in rented and have to move regularly, many will have parents that divorce during the Primary school years and move to smaller homes as single parents.

Singleandproud · 21/05/2024 12:43

What do you foreseeable your child missing out on?

Primary school children are pretty cheap, a couple of £ a week for Rainbows/Cubs, teach them to swim yourself and put them into lessons to improve technique saves £££, parks, forest and beach walks to collect shells/ leave and play. Museums and art galleries are largely free. Even in the teenage years it is possible for them to have an enriching life without spending ££££.

Ofcourse others may also have their children at expensive clubs but that is personal choice and not essential you can get well-rounded children for very little money although a bit more effort perhaps in planning and seeing what's available in the surrounding areas.

ClockHolly · 21/05/2024 12:49

@Hyre are you originally from a country where mortgages like this are less common? In the UK, most people, regardless of relationship status, have a mortgage in their 40s and often well beyond.

BusyMummy001 · 21/05/2024 12:50

BloodyAdultDC · 21/05/2024 08:41

I'm 48. Not a single one of my friends or colleagues below 50 has paid off their mortgage - be they married, single, child free or with several kids.

You're literally worrying your daughter's childhood away.

When I took out my mortgage as a newly single parent at 38 the term was 30 years.

This - DH and I are 55. Our outstanding mortgage is considerably more than OPs. One income (no local fam, ND kids), but kids have not missed out because the house wasn’t paid off. All our friends are talking about retiring (all 57-62) and will either use savings, retirement money, inheritances to pay off final balances… or downsize to use their equity if they’ve none/little of the above. We have saved/planned to pay the final amount off when DH retires between 60-62 (depends on when youngest finishes uni).

OP, I think you need to see a financial advisor and also a counsellor as it appears you are suffering (understandably) from huge levels of anxiety related to having a DC alone. Do you have anyone - a friend or relative - that you can talk this through with and get some perspective?

TwattyMcFuckFace · 21/05/2024 12:52

How long have you been overpaying for OP?

BusyMummy001 · 21/05/2024 12:55

TwattyMcFuckFace · 21/05/2024 12:52

How long have you been overpaying for OP?

She hasn’t said that she is - just that she is stressed by the amount she has outstanding and would LIKE to pay it off in 4 years.

HandsDown84 · 21/05/2024 12:57

You're being ridiculous. If you're not eatong properly to overpay then you haven't got a spare £50k a year for the next 4 years to meet your imaginary deadline.

Every household has monthly running costs. You'll still have council tax, insurance, food, fuel or public transport. The mortgage is just another one of those costs.

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