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To think that the CEO of Edinburgh Rape Crisis should be fired?

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WandsOut · 20/05/2024 00:59

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/5dc99960-be22-448d-ae42-371a058dce7f?shareToken=810c030b858153875ba6f64bd858ed8d

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This is an absolute nightmare of a case. If you've not been aware of it before now it's time to wake up and take a hard look at what is happening in women's support services across the UK. There seems to be a concerted effort to dismantle women's boundaries and withdraw support from vulnerable women who need spaces away from men.

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WandsOut · 21/05/2024 17:03

ArabellaScott · 21/05/2024 17:00

This MAN didn't understand that women who have been raped by men have fear of male bodies.

I'm sorry, but I'm pretty sure he is completely aware of the fear that rape victims often have around males.

He didn't fall into the job by accident.

Yes I agree, I meant it sarcastically. My rage typing is a struggle now to find adequate words for the levels of betrayal and horror at how it got this far.

I also think IW's commentary is like an aggressive seagull peck peck heckle heckler.

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WandsOut · 21/05/2024 17:04

This is also the tip of the iceberg isn't it? What more is coming I wonder. At least now wider scrutiny is ON.

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ArabellaScott · 21/05/2024 17:04

Oh, sorry. I didn't pick up on the sarcasm! Because all of this beggars belief, really.

Feels like the whole of society has been gaslit into accepting the unacceptable.

SinnerBoy · 21/05/2024 17:21

Who has the power to remove them? And do they have the will? Wadwha has been found to have bullied and harassed Roz Adams, just where does the buck stop? I'll repeat what I said earlier, he needs to be sacked for gross misconduct, so he can't put sparkly glittery bullshit on his CV, when he tries to ruin the next place he washes up at.

IbisDancer · 21/05/2024 17:31

SinnerBoy · 21/05/2024 17:21

Who has the power to remove them? And do they have the will? Wadwha has been found to have bullied and harassed Roz Adams, just where does the buck stop? I'll repeat what I said earlier, he needs to be sacked for gross misconduct, so he can't put sparkly glittery bullshit on his CV, when he tries to ruin the next place he washes up at.

As it is a charity, it should have a board of directors who can and should sack him.

endofthelinefinally · 21/05/2024 17:31

I am sure I read on here that MW's partner has financial dealings that should be investigated. I don't know the specifics, but there was a thread some time ago.

ArabellaScott · 21/05/2024 17:38

endofthelinefinally · 21/05/2024 17:31

I am sure I read on here that MW's partner has financial dealings that should be investigated. I don't know the specifics, but there was a thread some time ago.

https://grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/mridrul-wadha-sacro-and-the-14-million

Mridul Wadhwa, SACRO and the £1.4 million contract

Shocking new developments in the Edinburgh Rape Crisis Scandal

https://grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/mridrul-wadha-sacro-and-the-14-million

IbisDancer · 21/05/2024 17:40

Seems to be a trend in Scotland. Sturgeon and her husband embezzling SNP funds (is that how they bought the luxury caravan), and this. Makes me so angry.

yellowridinghood · 21/05/2024 17:46

This person has so many sleazy red flags it’s unbelievable. He should clearly be removed from post immediately and the judgement of those who saw fit to put them in post needs to be scrutinised.

OneTC · 21/05/2024 17:55

Obviously should be fired, along with the weird people that ever thought this was an appropriate appointment

RedToothBrush · 21/05/2024 18:50

The judge is clearly stating that the issue starts with MW, was led by MW, MW refused to give evidence and instead directed junior staff to defend the charity instead of taking the responsibility on, since MW joined there has been an unusually high turnover of trustees, the trustees that were then appointed where deliberately filtered to stop anyone who might ask difficult questions of MW from taking the job, the trustees that did take it on were exceptionally inexperienced and seem to be lacking in knowledge about what their legal responsibilities were, MW took a lead in the bullying and harassment, MW seems to have manipulated and led AB into making the complaint, MW did counselling despite a lack of qualifications.

It all seems to centre on MW and that's explicit in the judgement.

Yet a day after it MW still hasn't resigned with immediate effect. Or been removed.

That says it all.

There needs to be an investigation and MW removed immediately.

No if or buts.

WandsOut · 21/05/2024 18:59

ArabellaScott · 21/05/2024 17:04

Oh, sorry. I didn't pick up on the sarcasm! Because all of this beggars belief, really.

Feels like the whole of society has been gaslit into accepting the unacceptable.

Ikr? And we have to constantly undo the language around it because of the cognitive fuckery that's now been caused by this blatant TRA muddying of safeguarding boundaries.

The Times have weighed in www.thetimes.co.uk/article/the-times-view-edinburgh-rape-crisis-centre-tribunal-verdict-29vvsffjr

I don't have a share token unfortunately

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WickedSerious · 21/05/2024 19:02

ArabellaScott · 21/05/2024 15:17

What would lead a man to apply for that job?

When he knew that it was for women only, and that most survivors want female only support, and that his presence would upset/trigger/retraumatise women?

That's the burning question isn't it?

I can't come up with an answer that isn't deeply disturbing.

murasaki · 21/05/2024 19:09

No one should be leading an organisation that isn't prepared to go in to bat for that organisation rather than throw junior staff under the bus.

Quite aside from my views on them as a person.

nauticant · 21/05/2024 19:13

Apart from all the obvious, one thing which should see Wadhwa out is what happened as a result of him pulling the levers in the shadows to create a hostile environment for Roz Adams, including his off-stage discussions with AB after which she misinterpreted RA's harmless and friendly emails, as a result, along with all the rest, causing ERCC to discriminate against RA.

ERCC entered into litigation rather than apologise to RA. Even though ERCC was deeply in the wrong. It's fair to assume that it did this mainly to show its obeisance to gender identity ideology.

In other words, Wadhwa arranged for a huge amount of ERCC's financial resources to be spent to fight a losing case to suit his ideological agenda that was not only of no benefit to ERCC, but to its detriment.

I wonder whether that could count as misuse of charitable funds?

Feministwoman · 21/05/2024 19:43

ArabellaScott · 21/05/2024 17:00

This MAN didn't understand that women who have been raped by men have fear of male bodies.

I'm sorry, but I'm pretty sure he is completely aware of the fear that rape victims often have around males.

He didn't fall into the job by accident.

This

TheKeatingFive · 21/05/2024 19:54

What would lead a man to apply for that job?

When he knew that it was for women only, and that most survivors want female only support, and that his presence would upset/trigger/retraumatise women?

We all know the answer to this. He was getting off on it.

We also need to acknowledge the role of 'TWAW' and 'be kind' and how the proponents of that created a situation that enabled this man

WandsOut · 21/05/2024 20:03

I wonder what happened to the first women who raised the alarm on this or who felt so uncomfortable they had to leave. I wonder if the press will seek them out.

Also how did the women whose interviews he sat in on consent to it? Were they given a choice?

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TheKeatingFive · 21/05/2024 20:07

WandsOut · 21/05/2024 20:03

I wonder what happened to the first women who raised the alarm on this or who felt so uncomfortable they had to leave. I wonder if the press will seek them out.

Also how did the women whose interviews he sat in on consent to it? Were they given a choice?

No they weren't

They'd have been branded bigots if they'd questioned him anyway

KTheGrey · 21/05/2024 20:10

He should be fired and never hired to work around vulnerable women ever again.

WandsOut · 21/05/2024 21:22

@TheKeatingFive yes, how could they even ask without then going against their own dogma?

Might "Are you ok with a transwoman sitting in on your session today?" would be a "transphobic" question to ask according to MW house rules

And yes, what if the woman said no, would she be ejected from the service?

How do we request how these sessions took place?

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morningtoncrescent62 · 21/05/2024 21:30

IbisDancer · 21/05/2024 17:31

As it is a charity, it should have a board of directors who can and should sack him.

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The board seems to have become a large part of the problem. There's been a very high turnover and the board now seems to be made up of very young women who, a) lack the requisite skills and experience to provide the necessary oversight and take difficult actions and, b) are in total thrall to what the judgement described as "the extreme end of gender identity theory".

https://x.com/DworkinProgress/status/1792561839697465537

x.com

https://x.com/DworkinProgress/status/1792561839697465537

ickky · 21/05/2024 22:48

ArabellaScott · 21/05/2024 17:17

https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/scottish-news/ash-regan-says-would-unconscionable-32861103

'The Alba MSP has called for a caretaker board to be put in place at the Scottish Government-funded Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre while the fall-out from the bombshell Roz Adams ruling is investigated'

A transparent, independent inquiry must conclude whether the CEO wilfully deceived the ERCC board or was encouraged to take on this role and alter policy. ERCC must install a caretaker board that follows the law to establish trust while the investigations conclude.

It would be interesting to see who may have encouraged. I think we all know.

I can't remember, who was the former COO?

ArabellaScott · 21/05/2024 22:50

ickky · 21/05/2024 22:48

A transparent, independent inquiry must conclude whether the CEO wilfully deceived the ERCC board or was encouraged to take on this role and alter policy. ERCC must install a caretaker board that follows the law to establish trust while the investigations conclude.

It would be interesting to see who may have encouraged. I think we all know.

I can't remember, who was the former COO?

Maggie PersonPeeps of the Scottish Greens.

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