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To not be on board with oral sex

155 replies

Mumoftwinsandasingleton · 19/05/2024 22:37

Long story short- husband finds oral to be the ultimate sex satisfaction. He loves everything about it and would love to release in my mouth.
I've always found the thought of this to be disgusting and very porn inspired (not my thing). I just want to enjoy my partner without him demanding that. He's aware I don't enjoy it and yet I find myself still giving in to his "needs" because during the act he coerces me into it.
I recently listened to a podcast which talked about consent and how a woman may agree to vaginal but not necessarily oral or anal, as it would be classed as rape if she did not consent but you still did it. I brought this up with my husband which didn't go down well. He said that if I love him, I should want to please him in the ways that he likes best.
I feel bad that I'm not at all into oral but it's putting me off sex completely, knowing that there will be the expectation for oral.
I try to please him in other ways via sensual massages and hand jobs, even breast stimulation - but he says it doesn't cut it and that all he wants is my mouth. Would it be unreasonable to completely stop oral until I actually want to do that myself? or should I put the effort in to pleasing him as (admittedly) he's a great father and husband?

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BorisIsACuntWaffle · 20/05/2024 07:23

"didn't go down well" snigger

You're within your rights to do or not do what you like.

Sex of any time should be consensual.

PenelopeTitsdrop1990 · 20/05/2024 07:25

Goes both ways. If HE loves YOU,he wouldn't be putting pressure on you to do something HE KNOWS you don't want to do.

Yougotwhatstuckwhere · 20/05/2024 07:39

I wonder how many women coerce their partners into oral that the partner has expressed a dislike/disgust for?
Very few I'd imagine. But so many women fall into this trap.
NOBODY should EVER be having SEX THEY DON'T WANT.
Thank fuck we have laws around coercion now.
Please find your voice OP.
@MrsTerryPratchett wise words as always

Chatonette · 20/05/2024 07:57

Just here to offer you a bit of solidarity OP. I hate having a penis in my mouth and DH hates having a clitoris in his mouth. So neither of us gives each other oral—we do other things instead. Yes, I’m sure DH would love to get BJs, but that’s not going to happen. Besides, he climaxes every time we have sex, so he’s hardly getting blue balled here.

Consent should, in my opinion, be relabelled “enthusiastic consent”. Badgering/guilt tripping someone until you grind them down into agreeing is not “enthusiastic consent”. Yes, your husband may well be Father of the Year, but he’s being a prat in the bedroom. Both can be true at the same time.

Good luck. xxx

CwmYoy · 20/05/2024 07:57

I'm sorry to say that I think your reluctance is part of the turn on for him - and also to cum in your mouth.

It's humiliation and rape. It has to stop.

PenelopeTitsdrop1990 · 20/05/2024 08:11

Yougotwhatstuckwhere · 20/05/2024 07:39

I wonder how many women coerce their partners into oral that the partner has expressed a dislike/disgust for?
Very few I'd imagine. But so many women fall into this trap.
NOBODY should EVER be having SEX THEY DON'T WANT.
Thank fuck we have laws around coercion now.
Please find your voice OP.
@MrsTerryPratchett wise words as always

That's going to be the least sexiest thing ever,making your partner do something you know they are hating. Who in their right mind would find that a turn on? 🤦

Loubelle70 · 20/05/2024 08:21

PenelopeTitsdrop1990 · 20/05/2024 08:11

That's going to be the least sexiest thing ever,making your partner do something you know they are hating. Who in their right mind would find that a turn on? 🤦

Rapists and sexual abusers sadly

GingerPirate · 20/05/2024 08:43

Fucking disgusting.
I have never been that into sex, let alone "oral".
Makes me wanna throw up.
Husband never, ever put pressure in any way.
Child free, I'd rather be gone.
Gross, sorry.

katepilar · 20/05/2024 08:46

If he loved you he wouldnt force you to do things you hate. Very selfish and immature. And in this instance also sick.

GingerPirate · 20/05/2024 08:49

Yes, to add, a poster mentioned humiliation.
Very true.
My late Grandmother used to say,
when I was an adult 😁, if he wants this practice, he should stick it between doorframes and slam the door shut.

Mumoftwinsandasingleton · 20/05/2024 09:05

Oblomov24 · 20/05/2024 07:09

I prefer BJ's and enjoy giving them. You don't. A pp asked why he married you. MonsterMama: "If he wants blowjobs so much he shouldn't have married someone who hates them. "

Alternatively this could be turned around to you. Why did you marry a man when he had such different sexual desires and needs to you? It's no different to anything else - why marry someone who likes this when you don't? Why marry a man who likes tuna if you don't. Why marry a man who wants any sort of sexual activity, wants you to dress up or themselves wants to wear women's underwear, if you don't. it's all about compatibility. When did you realise that this was a big thing for him? You are not compatible. what do you suggest you're going to do about this? How will it be resolved?

It seems to have become a very big thing since having my twins in September. Before then he made it clear that he liked it but was OK if I said no. Now it just seems to be something he almost insists on. On his birthday, he said, "come on give me a bj" when I said no. He pulled my head towards it and said "oh come on, it's my birthday" he would never normally do this so this is new for me that he's become quite pushy with it

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Dakotabluebell · 20/05/2024 09:10

Oblomov24 · 20/05/2024 07:09

I prefer BJ's and enjoy giving them. You don't. A pp asked why he married you. MonsterMama: "If he wants blowjobs so much he shouldn't have married someone who hates them. "

Alternatively this could be turned around to you. Why did you marry a man when he had such different sexual desires and needs to you? It's no different to anything else - why marry someone who likes this when you don't? Why marry a man who likes tuna if you don't. Why marry a man who wants any sort of sexual activity, wants you to dress up or themselves wants to wear women's underwear, if you don't. it's all about compatibility. When did you realise that this was a big thing for him? You are not compatible. what do you suggest you're going to do about this? How will it be resolved?

Maybe she didn't realise it was going to escalate to the point he's orally raping her.

Disgusting victim blaming.

Dakotabluebell · 20/05/2024 09:11

Mumoftwinsandasingleton · 20/05/2024 09:05

It seems to have become a very big thing since having my twins in September. Before then he made it clear that he liked it but was OK if I said no. Now it just seems to be something he almost insists on. On his birthday, he said, "come on give me a bj" when I said no. He pulled my head towards it and said "oh come on, it's my birthday" he would never normally do this so this is new for me that he's become quite pushy with it

It sounds like he's been pushing your boundaries over the years and now he's at the point he feels he can be more open about forcing you to do it. He's eroded your boundaries so now he can escalate.

He's probably getting off on the fact that you don't want to do it.

soscarlet · 20/05/2024 09:15

Mumoftwinsandasingleton · 20/05/2024 07:07

Thanks for sharing your experience. I can't believe you went through that. Everybody in here is right. I've decided that enough is enough. No more coercion. Thank you for giving me the confidence to do this

I haven’t read the whole thread but have read your updates. What your husband is doing is not OK. Consent by coercion is not consent. Sexual contact without consent is assault or rape.

It is truly awful to have to come to terms with the knowledge that a person who should prioritise your wellbeing is being abusive. I hope you’re OK and can access support.

drusth · 20/05/2024 09:21

Mumoftwinsandasingleton · 20/05/2024 09:05

It seems to have become a very big thing since having my twins in September. Before then he made it clear that he liked it but was OK if I said no. Now it just seems to be something he almost insists on. On his birthday, he said, "come on give me a bj" when I said no. He pulled my head towards it and said "oh come on, it's my birthday" he would never normally do this so this is new for me that he's become quite pushy with it

Are these your first babies? Abuse often ramps up after a baby, because they think the women is now stuck and won't leave.

Penguinfeet24 · 20/05/2024 09:28

A great husband does not make you do things you don't want to. Do you reckon he would repeatedly do something he doesn't like? Of course not, so why should you. The 'if you loved me you'd do it because I like it' is a massive, massive red flag.

HowToSaveAWife · 20/05/2024 09:33

Mumoftwinsandasingleton · 20/05/2024 09:05

It seems to have become a very big thing since having my twins in September. Before then he made it clear that he liked it but was OK if I said no. Now it just seems to be something he almost insists on. On his birthday, he said, "come on give me a bj" when I said no. He pulled my head towards it and said "oh come on, it's my birthday" he would never normally do this so this is new for me that he's become quite pushy with it

At a guess, I'd say it's because he thinks he's managed to trap you with twins and a single baby and can push as much as he likes because you're in a vulnerable spot. "Where would you go/who would have you" trope.

He's orally raping you. And you're out of your mind if you think he's not capable of taking it further. Good father or not, he's not a good husband.

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BIossomtoes · 20/05/2024 09:41

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It’s obviously her problem too. No sexual issue is just one person’s problem.

cheddercherry · 20/05/2024 09:43

Let’s get this right, he’s NOT a great husband.

Also forcing a partner to commit an act they aren’t comfortable with SHOULD NOT be a turn on. Normal people wouldn’t get off knowing that their partner wasn’t into what they were doing. It would be a turn OFF to know they weren’t in it together. He’s sexually abusing you and he’s using emotional control to try and force you into situations you don’t want to be in.

It’s not normal, ok, or what you should be doing. Repeat. He is the one failing you (-(and abusing you) as a partner. Repeat.

Mumoftwinsandasingleton · 20/05/2024 09:48

Lucycantdance · 20/05/2024 05:34

You should advise him that your needs involve anal using a large strap on on him, without lube. If he doesn't agree then he isn't being fair to your needs.

Funnily enough I said this during our last discussion and he seemed to acknowledge it but then said it was completely different

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PoochiesPinkEars · 20/05/2024 10:27

He loves oral, but your relationship was deepened and committed to on the basis that he understood you didn't and was ok with the compromise that entailed.
Now he's moved the goalposts. Was it premeditated, probably not, but that's what has happened.
Maybe there's a dark side that kinda gets a kick out of the power play that someone submitting to another entails, but if that's his kink then he needs to own that and allow you to choose if you want to be a partner in that. Because s+m including degrading acts (degrading can be whatever you feel it is) can be fully consensual if you have two people where one likes to be dominated and one likes to dominate.
That's not the situation he's in, though as you're his sexual partner he's pressing on with that kind of scenario by stealth.
He might not be a rapist by intent, but he's certainly in the grey area of conveniently forgetting what true consent is and being emotionally manipulative about getting his desires met which is certainly not loving partner territory.
Is he an out and out villain, no because he does well in the role of house mate and father, but since when were people all light or all shade.
As a sexual partner he is not mindful of your emotional well being, happy to impose regardless of personal cost to you, prepared to pin the blame on you if this mismatch exists.
It's ok for this not too sit well with you, to withdraw from him because of it.

PoochiesPinkEars · 20/05/2024 10:30

Autocorrect can be really annoying sometimes. 🙄

GingerPirate · 20/05/2024 10:35

BIossomtoes · 20/05/2024 09:41

It’s obviously her problem too. No sexual issue is just one person’s problem.

My "sexual issues" are my problem only.
That's why I don't let a man anywhere near me anymore, because I simply don't have a single reason to do so.

BIossomtoes · 20/05/2024 10:37

GingerPirate · 20/05/2024 10:35

My "sexual issues" are my problem only.
That's why I don't let a man anywhere near me anymore, because I simply don't have a single reason to do so.

And that’s fair enough. You’re not making it someone else’s problem. This is a shared problem of sexual incompatibility.