Londoners have absolutely decimated my city

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NC as really outing.
I'm a musician and over the years I have seen what was a steady stream of londoners turn into a flood this year.
I'm so gutted. I know everybody has the right to live here but it has pushed so many of my friends out, artists and other musicians. It pisses me off that the whole reason these londoners moved here, they are also destroying.
I'm lucky as my landlord is really decent and hasn't put my rent up in years, so I can afford to stay here. But now I'm considering just leaving because of the vibe factor. It makes me really sad. I still gig a few times a week but the crowd is different. I miss my community, but now everybody is scattered as everyone who was pushed out has gone to different places.
I'm considering just jumping ship and moving on myself but I don't know where to go.
Today some more londoners moved into the street...The whole street is full of scaffolding as they seem to really love doing home improvements 😅
I know I sound really bitter. I guess I am. I don't know whether to stay or go, and of I go, where to?

😂The cheek of it.

If you’re still reading, it sounds like you’re a musician whose town has filled with people who want to consume music and have lots of money…

Do you see what I’m saying here?😆

Guarentee most DFLs are from the Home Counties!

But when does someone become a 'Londoner'? I am living in London now, this is the fourth place I have been settled in the UK for an extended period of time. If I moved to Brighton would I be a Londoner moving in? Or someone from Norfolk because I grew up there?

It sounds like you are mainly annoyed at the influx of money, but I always remember Brighton being expensive/ affluent. We used to visit a friend at university there 20 years ago and we all knew of it as the most expensive place any of us had ended up. In my area of London we have also lost lots of friends who couldn't afford to move from couple style flats to family homes in the local area so have had to move elsewhere. It's hugely sad and I miss our friends too but I can see very few of the people around here grew up here either so maybe everywhere is just pretty transient.

You do realise it’s your ‘locals’ who have driven up the house prices, right? They could all choose to have sold them at a little profit to other ‘localism’ but they chose to make whacking great profits.

Sorry but screw you. Come back to me when you’re paying £2500 a month for a two bed out in east London, and then I might have some sympathy for you. I know plenty of musicians and artists living in London who are going to be doing far worse than you due to the COL.

Or maybe you could actually blame the people who are in charge of this country for screwing everyone over. But no.

Couldn't agree more OP. Those pesky Londoners, coming and spending their money on the local art and gigs etc instead of creating more competition by providing their own art. How very dare they!

Definitely move somewhere else where everyone produces art and music and no one consumes it, sounds ideal ❤️

Having read the OP's flounce I now have a clear picture of them as someone who arrived in Brighton as an arts student and has a fine set of white person dreadlocks.

I just knew this was going to be about Brighton before I opened it!

I hear you OP. I’ve lived here since I was 16, coming up to 20 years. I’m a musician too and gigged up until 2014 when I felt a change in the vibe. I don’t really like it here anymore. I don’t feel very safe now and a lot of areas in the centre look run down to me these days, but maybe I’m just getting old. I’ve been priced out now anyway and will need to move soon. I don’t know where to go though. I’m desperate for a garden and was hoping to be able to afford one but house prices are going up and up and up. I’m going to have to move to a different part of the country ultimately.

A while back I went to a social gathering (live on the South Coast) some people on our table were chatting and noticed I don't have a local accent and asked me where I'm from (DH is a local) and they then proceeded to moan about how the area has changed, all the houses being built etc and they preferred how it was 20 years ago. I asked where they were from and they said Uxbridge (or similar) I couldn't help myself and had to say to them aren't you part of the problem? You are complaining the area has changed because people like you are moving to it! I imagine the local people must have felt put out when your home was built! They had absolutely no self awareness at all. People are always going to move around the country, but with that is going to come change and rightly or wrongly it has to be accepted

😂😂 Shh, they might like that as they’ll think they can tame the barbarians. Tell them it’s full of scaffolding and home improvements instead. And people that like to listen to music 😱

Splendid flounce OP.

I'm tempted to do that as am quite energised by the idea of trying to grow a new community, just trying to assess whether those places can be livened up though, or whether I will leave town to try and contribute to creating a vibe somewhere else, only for it not to take off and then I will have lost my LL here. Guess that's a risk you just have to take though!

And after such charming arrogance

Aaargh! Good points!
OP - it's full of people weeding their patios and reading "Hello" magazine.

I'm thinking wearing those batik harem pants with pictures of elephants on and a T-shirt with a ying and yang symbol?

Guitar propped casually in the corner.

YY to the harem pants!

If that's a joke then it fails. If it's not a joke it is horrible.

"but I'm tempted to do that as am quite energised by the idea of trying to grow a new community, just trying to assess whether those places can be livened up though, "

10/10, would seethe at again

I'm not sure why OP is surprised. Plus it hasn't happened recently. My middle brother has been living there for 30 years and it's changed gradually, and I've been visiting at least once a year for all these years, so I'm not quite sure exactly what op is referring to.

Thank you posters for making me giggle today 😂

Posters like the OP are the reason I live in London.

Not a problem in Brighton or London, local schools are closing- not enough babies born in 2020.

I think some people need to look up the word 'decimated'. And realise that people can live where they like, even Londoners , without it being some kind of project or planned invasion. It sounds like you don't think outsiders should move to where you are, OP, but its fine for you to go and invade another location and bring your vibe. Sounds very hypocritical.

You mean - You can't bring a cottage anywhere.

Covered in carefully curated stickers.

That's been true of Brighton for at least 25 years though. But I know what you.mean.

We live in Britain's worst seaside town and here's why it's awful https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13432857/Britain-worst-seaside-town-homelessness-youths-vomiting-drunken-fights.html?ito=native_share_article-nativemenubutton
I've found somewhere for you to go and work your creative charm, OP!

We have an Airbnb in Deal, my OH has close family there so we bought it from his inheritance and use it to visit them and rent it to pay the mortgage. We love Deal - but we love it for the mix of cool vintage shops and lovely resturants which cater for the DFL (i hate that term) and for the 'working town' shops and restaurants which the residents use. But i think that Deal is in its halcyon days and it will soon tip in to the former which will be a great shame.