Londoners have absolutely decimated my city

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NC as really outing.
I'm a musician and over the years I have seen what was a steady stream of londoners turn into a flood this year.
I'm so gutted. I know everybody has the right to live here but it has pushed so many of my friends out, artists and other musicians. It pisses me off that the whole reason these londoners moved here, they are also destroying.
I'm lucky as my landlord is really decent and hasn't put my rent up in years, so I can afford to stay here. But now I'm considering just leaving because of the vibe factor. It makes me really sad. I still gig a few times a week but the crowd is different. I miss my community, but now everybody is scattered as everyone who was pushed out has gone to different places.
I'm considering just jumping ship and moving on myself but I don't know where to go.
Today some more londoners moved into the street...The whole street is full of scaffolding as they seem to really love doing home improvements 😅
I know I sound really bitter. I guess I am. I don't know whether to stay or go, and of I go, where to?

Do you live in my town? 1/3 of the homes aren't even lived in full time as they go to London on Monday morning and return Friday night. I would not actually care if it wasn't for the whining (loud so others can hear) about the failings of the local Waitrose to stock x or y unusual ingredient that's always available In Kensington or the lack a "decent independent deli" (there's a perfectly nice one but they sell things the full time residents actually buy). But I'm part of the problem despite living full time because I like so many lived elsewhere once

am quite energised by the idea of trying to grow a new community, just trying to assess whether those places can be livened up though, or whether I will leave town to try and contribute to creating a vibe somewhere else
So going and doing exactly what you're complaining that 'Londoners' are doing in your town? What if these areas don't welcome your rather sanctimonious 'livening up/vibe creation' in their home town?🙄

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I mean this is literally the exact same attitude that the Londoners brought to your town 😂

Perhaps Londoners feel that people moving to London have decimated their city?

And the prize for the least self aware post goes to...

Surprised you said Brighton - ‘Londoners’ have been moving to Brighton for decades, it’s not a recent thing! I have 8 friends in Brighton and they all moved there from London between 1994 and 2010.
I am interested to know your definition of ‘Londoner’? I suppose I’d be classed as one now, having lived here for 30+ years, but I have a northern accent, so it’s not obvious.

No it's not the same at all.

The Londoners are all about consuming rather than producing.

They want to live somewhere where they can consume art and music on tap, but they don't want to make any of it themselves. They just want to buy it.

They don't contribute to anything except pushing prices up. Oh and I guess the pavements have fewer weeds.

I sympathise, as someone in West Wales which is now not-very-affectionately known as Little England.

Everything has changed. The warm, welcoming feeling. The kindness. The respect for others. Constant complaints about livestock existing, rural smells, people using the Welsh language. Not to mention the impact on housing for locals.

They all seem to be from Essex/London/Kent areas. Extremely entitled, moan about everything and just SO LOUD. Everything is expressed at a high volume. We can't figure out whether they like the sound of their own voices, or just want everyone to hear how fantastic they are 🙄

I'm usually all for migration, but experiencing what these people have done to my local area and how they behave - it's awful.

"just trying to assess whether those places can be livened up though,"

Wow! You want to move somewhere else to change it into your kind of place? Pity the poor people who like living there how it is.

Maybe the people who live in Hastings like it how it is currently?

How can you not see that you are being very hypocritical?

Grow a new community - or do to those places exactly what you're complaining about in Brighton? They won't just have DFLs, they'll have AFBs to price them out.

Young people move to London because that's where the jobs are.

Why are you being so shirty to OP. He/she is complaining about gentrification and planning to move away to a more marginal place which, as is the way of these things, will be enriched by the movement of creatives/artists and in turn be gentrified. This happens within cities all the time as well as regionally. In cities when they are in decline traditionally gay or immigrant or artistic individuals push into abandoned and low cost areas, create community there and then deeper pocketed people snd businesses come along. At first banks won’t lend money for development and first comers squat or rent. Then better connected people get mortgages and buy.

The problem is lack of social investment in housing and community.

Have you been living under a rock for the last 10 years? Brighton has been overpriced for some time. And it has always been somewhat transient with two universities. It’s full of either students or “trustafarians”. Frankly, there is much more going on in Worthing or, indeed, Hastings (which, according to you could do with livening up) community-wise. But I would discourage you from moving there. I don’t think locals will take kindly to your stinking attitude or your general vibe.

Try St Leonard's on Sea.

Try Liverpool? It lost population for many years, now doing better but I don’t think you’d be squeezing anyone out. Good music and cultural scene and so far as the locals are concerned you couldn’t get further away from the type of ex London resident you’re describing! Plus coastal so you can still go to the beach if you want.

I’ve been to Brighton a few times and I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone over about the age of 40. Where do all the 40+ people go?
I was 50 when I last visited and I actually felt about 90.

Bournemouth.

Thank you 🩵

Hove and Worthing.

Didn't think the OP was retired.

Don't be horrible.

Liverpudlians don't need the OP's attitude.

Interesting, I wonder why Liverpool hasn't seen the money surge that Manchester apparently has (apparently it has become really expensive to live there)

Wow you’re so prejudiced against Londoners. They just want to consume art and music, but not produce them? Have you heard yourself? London’s a creative industry hub! There are 9.7 million people in the Greater London area, for example Scotland’s whole population is under 6 million, we’re a diverse group, but sure keep on with the lazy stereotypes.