My Disgusting Neighbour

[BaldingMum]

Terrace house with a shared passageway between mine and my neighbours houses which lead to a gate into my garden (neighbour has never put a gate up for theirs meaning their garden is fully visible to anyone walking down the passageway).

Neighbour has always hoarded in the garden, and it’s an absolute shit hole full of rotting rubbish. This has led to rats over the years which are primarily resident in his garden, although I have seen the odd one venture onto my garden leading me to put bait traps down.

Just about manageable, not ideal. However my neighbour, who has a colonoscopy bag, has started the disgusting habit of emptying his bladder on the back door step. The smell is indescribable. The flies are relentless.

My six year old child has to walk by this to get access to his garden and house (both of which are well kept and tidy).

the stickler is, my house is down hill to his, so inevitably when it rains, guess where all his body waste gets washed to.

He is completely blasé about it, doesn’t see a problem, his property etc etc. I’ve raised an environmental hazard complaint with the local council to see if they can do anything.

It stinks. It’s ruining the enjoyment of our garden. The flies are getting into our house. The rats are increasing.

WIBU to pour bleach where it’s evidentially doing this disgusting act? What the hell can I do to get this stopped?

Which is why I asked is there a reason he couldn’t use the kitchen sink rather than outside?

Of course it isn't the OP's problem, but I am not sure shouting at him and calling him lazy is really the way forward.

Using the kitchen sink might be pretty awkward depending on where the bag is and how much tubing there is.

If I were him, I'd sort out a tub of compost that drains into the drain, rather than onto the concrete, big enough to take a full bag, spare compost bag to the side to top it off and get someone to empty it and replace compost once a week or fortnight or whatevers reasonable (effectively, a composting toilet). But I'm generally a 'solutions' person rather than a 'just yell at people' person!

Maybe write him a kind letter. Explain the issue in detail. Ask him to stop. Send it via registered mail. Don't sign it. He might stop if it's in writing.

I should say that I was putting diapers on the windowsill and then collecting them at the end of the day to throw away. I don't like diaper genies. They smell...

The window faced the neighbours window but it seemed like the window was never opened or used. I was surprised when they said it was their dining room window!!. I had no idea their window covering allowed them to see outside! I stopped immediately! I was horrified and apologetic. Sometimes people just need to be told how their behavior impacts others. I genuinely didn't know and was sorry. The neighbours now invite me over for dinner and drinks...

Ok. I read the rest of your posts. Yeah...maybe he does need to be screamed at. I wouldn't have had this much patience. I think he'll stop.

Ring environmental health at the council and get it stopped. If you have rats now and again, report those too, you have a small child who can pick up diseases from rats

I would put in a welfare call. Let them know he has hording tendencies, there are rats and flies everywhere, his wife is housebound, he has the bag which he is emptying in the garden. He is emptying his bag almost exclusively in the garden - perhaps there is an issue with accessing the toilet? His children are also struggling with him and his hygiene. Someone should refer him to somewhere as this sounds like a vulnerable household.

It might be that he needs authority intervention as he is not listening to his wife or children. At best he is just disgusting but it's likely there is very poor mental health at play. There may also be hidden physical health problems.

Call environmental health. This is health hazard.

why didn’t you just put them straight in the bin…

Is the bloke young or elderly? Reason I am asking is my dad was sat out, when I looked out he was stood up peeing, I was horrified to say the least. Luckily the garden wall is 25 ft high at the back so I don’t think any of the neighbors saw him- he was early stages of Alzheimer’s which we didn’t realise at the time.
Could you have a word with him, or is he unapproachable? If he is unapproachable I would report him to the health at the council, they will probably send him a warning letter.

I may have missed the answer but why can’t he empty his bag - whatever it contains down the toilet.
i can’t believe that anyone in their right mind would dispose of a stoma bag containing bowel contents on the step. If it’s that I’d be reporting it as severe health hazard to everyone I possibly could now this minute. A bag containing urine is not that much better - no one goes out of the house to wee on the step we use the toilet and that’s how he should he emptying his bag He will no doubt rationalise it by saying that it’s only water, but it isn’t, urine smells.
To digress a bit, when we had a rats nest under our shed the rat man advised us to water Jeyes Fluid round it on a regular basis as rats are all but blind and use the smell of their urine which they constantly drop to find their back home. The Jeyes Fluid is so strong smelling it masks the smell of the urine - if you don’t mind the smell I’d buy a bottle of that to use rather than bleach and pour it as close to his door as you can until someone manages to put a stop to his disgusting habit.

The police, for flashing, and ASB. The council for the same. His HA/landlord for the same. He's breaching his tenancy surely?
Gross. Defecating in public view is a public order offence. If your being compassionate, could it be he needs a carer, is his toilet no longer accessible etc? You could contact adult SS with a concern of that nature.

"I may have missed the answer but why can’t he empty his bag - whatever it contains down the toilet."

I am only guessing, but it is quite difficult for a person of restricted mobility to go up and down stairs with a container of urine without fear of spilling it.

Both legal. Weird, but legal

Oh I am so sorry, until a person goes through the hell of awful neighbours they have no idea how much of a toll it takes on our wellbeing and ability to relax in our homes. I have horrible neighbours on one side of me and similar to you I am in terraced house which we all share a communal alley. I won't bore you with what I am going through, what I will tell you that I have tried everything, the council and all the relevant departments; Selective Licensing, Anti-Social behaviour department, Public Health, my local councillor, another local councillor in the same area but not in my ward, and the Police. None of it has made any difference I am sorry to say. All of them say my complaints and concerns are very valid and that they are "investigating" and "working" on it but nothing changes. Some days I am in tears, like you I cannot use my outdoor space and I really feel for you. I hope you get better results than I have

Good luck, it sounds utter hell and should be taken very seriously. My lot next door aren't as bad as that, but we have had rats due to them having at least 20 black bags out in the yard due to the house being massively overcrowded. The yard is also crammed to the hilt with scrap and various items of rubbish which sometimes extend into the communal alley so people cannot get their bins out. The noise they make is almost constant, the family living in the house attached to theirs had to move as their daughter could not study due to the constant racket I really feel for you, hope swift action is taken. For whatever reason your neighbour is behaving in this manner it is untenable that you should have to put up with this.

He is disgusting. Involve the council environmental health dept.

However, pouring bleach is a terrible idea. It is even more damaging and if rainwater pushes it in your direction it will kill plants and animals in your garden. It kills everything including in soil.

@Hiitsmegirl We have a neighbour doing this
Putting used nappies on a front windowsill
They blow into our front garden when it is windy - it is rank.
Pretty awful for post people otherwise
I cannot understand why they could not at least put a bin at the front to contain this mess.
Horrible dirty people

He is neither defecating in public, nor is he flashing anyone. He is emptying urine out of a leg bag into a plant pot which is then slowly leaking urine into the OP's garden.

It is unpleasant, it suggests there is a bigger problem, but it is neither of the above things.

good for you op

Oh my, that is terrible!

I agree with other commenters. Get a heath and wellness check for his wife. I cannot imagine what is happening in his home. And the adult children sound useless. This will likely scare him straight.

Ditto this. You may be doing him a favour, even if it is one he won't thank you for. He has problems and needs assistance.

What an utter disgusting pig. Can you challenge his mental competence? No-one in their right mind would behave like that. Gross!

Or a toilet?