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My Disgusting Neighbour

272 replies

BaldingMum · 17/05/2024 19:32

Terrace house with a shared passageway between mine and my neighbours houses which lead to a gate into my garden (neighbour has never put a gate up for theirs meaning their garden is fully visible to anyone walking down the passageway).

Neighbour has always hoarded in the garden, and it’s an absolute shit hole full of rotting rubbish. This has led to rats over the years which are primarily resident in his garden, although I have seen the odd one venture onto my garden leading me to put bait traps down.

Just about manageable, not ideal. However my neighbour, who has a colonoscopy bag, has started the disgusting habit of emptying his bladder on the back door step. The smell is indescribable. The flies are relentless.

My six year old child has to walk by this to get access to his garden and house (both of which are well kept and tidy).

the stickler is, my house is down hill to his, so inevitably when it rains, guess where all his body waste gets washed to.

He is completely blasé about it, doesn’t see a problem, his property etc etc. I’ve raised an environmental hazard complaint with the local council to see if they can do anything.

It stinks. It’s ruining the enjoyment of our garden. The flies are getting into our house. The rats are increasing.

WIBU to pour bleach where it’s evidentially doing this disgusting act? What the hell can I do to get this stopped?

OP posts:
disaggregate · 18/05/2024 14:34

Janiie · 18/05/2024 14:27

'Well then, she should inform the family she will be escalating it and get on to PCOS/Council/whoever can do something'

Apparently they're only concerned with serious crimes according to a pp who seems to have absolutely idea about signs of self neglect and welfare issues. If they aren't robbing banks the cops and social services won't be interested!

We'd a neighbour in the flat downstairs that we discovered was living in dire filth - and throwing food out the window for the neighbourhood rodents to feast on. We told her adult kids who shrugged, and then we told the council and SS (much to her children's anger). She ended up having welfare checks, the place cleaned up and eventually home help as she clearly wasn't able to cope.
I did find her children neglectful and it irresponsible for them to just throw up their hands and say they can't help when they could at least have paid for a cleaner/done it themselves and got in touch with SS.

MereDintofPandiculation · 18/05/2024 14:37

HollyKnight · 18/05/2024 12:46

Why would a nurse know he is emptying his bag in the garden? He won't be the first lazy git to piss in the garden instead of going upstairs.

Anyway, again, he's not doing anything illegal. You can pee in your garden if you want. The police won't tell him to stop. Social services won't tell him to stop. If it is causing a health hazard, it is an environmental health issue.

Pissing in the garden is not a problem as far as smell is concerned- the soil deactivates the urine (1). The problem is he's pissing on concrete.

(1) This is why earth closets work.

femfemlicious · 18/05/2024 14:44

HollyKnight · 18/05/2024 14:32

I do, which is why I know social services won't get involved in a messy house or garden. If they had a child there, children's services would be interested. If they had a dog there, animal welfare would be interested. But grown adults with involved families? Nope. They won't care. Your shit heap is not their problem to deal with.

They can definitely get involved in a garden with rubbish in it.

katepilar · 18/05/2024 14:49

BaldingMum · 17/05/2024 20:12

TBH I’ve not seen the process, just heard it knowing he was there. The wet patch and smell is evidence enough.

I’ve been told he’s ’emptying his bladder’, not sure if that means emptying the bag on the floor, or if there’s a valve or plug he can use to bypass the bag (say if he happened to be at the toilet when the urge came, he can divert the urine in there opposed to the bag).

OP, your post is confusing people as you are talking about colonoscopy bag and bladder which doesnt add up. It would be good if you could answer what you mean when people ask you.

thecatneuterer · 18/05/2024 15:03

Happyhoppy15 · 17/05/2024 22:42

what a horrible situation for you. Not sure I could cope with someone’s urine running into my garden on a daily basis. Surely environmental health should step in now?

please don’t use poison for the rats, if you don’t have any food sources and no where for them to sleep you won’t have them and they will just be passing through which most if not every household will have. Using poison causes immense pain for the rat and also risks poisoning birds of prey and household pets

Thank you for saying this about rats. I wholeheartedly agree.

nonumbersinthisname · 18/05/2024 15:17

katepilar · 18/05/2024 14:49

OP, your post is confusing people as you are talking about colonoscopy bag and bladder which doesnt add up. It would be good if you could answer what you mean when people ask you.

The OP established last night that the neighbour has a catheter, and a bag that is often on display. She thinks it’s the bag that the neighbour is emptying on the path.

As an aside, are people still using the MN app? Its rubbish. If you use your phones browser you get more functionality including the option to “see all” under the OPs posts so you can see what updates they have been before you post.

Janiie · 18/05/2024 15:19

'Yes, an environmental health officer'

They won't care! as you keep pointing out dogs wee in gardens so urine per se is not an environmental concern. At the risk of sounding like a broken record it is what it represents from a welfare issue that would be a concern. The lack of self care, the potential neglect of an elderly spouse. Social care are as concerned with older people as they are with neglected kids.

Again, you don't work for social care do you? Confused

rainbowunicorn · 18/05/2024 15:32

katepilar · 18/05/2024 14:49

OP, your post is confusing people as you are talking about colonoscopy bag and bladder which doesnt add up. It would be good if you could answer what you mean when people ask you.

She did. About 18 hours ago.

MikeRafone · 18/05/2024 15:38

an asbo is the immediate answer but its getting one

if you had video evidence this would obviously help

MikeRafone · 18/05/2024 15:42

social services will not respond quickly to this but I would put a call into Mash -multi agency services hub, most councils of one of sorts but under different names

Its important you report his welfare to social services as it maybe other events are happening and reports being sent back and they can build a bigger picture. maybe he has dementia or some type of MH issues and needs help

Grmumpy · 18/05/2024 15:59

This is terrible. I would be on to environmental health constantly in writing with lots of evidence and photos and also follow other suggestions on here. I assume someone mentioned contacting your local m.p. Do come back and tell us what happens. Might even have to involve your local newspaper. Nobody should have to live next door to such a neighbour.

BaldingMum · 18/05/2024 16:37

I caught him doing it again this morning. In a flower pot sat on a big dish right next to the back door.
Ive videod the aftermath which was essentially a flower pot full of soil frothing with hot urine. The dish the flower pot is sat in was full to the rim urine.
the amount that overflowed ended up on the path within the shared entrance area.
It has been roasting here today, and all day his stagnant urine has been there, gathering more flies with the odour getting worse and worse.

his daughter came round earlier and I told her (she was the one who initially told me what he was doing). I found myself getting upset telling her how bloody unfair and selfish he’s acting.

I told her I’m not comfortable talking to him anymore about this matter and I’ll be pursuing other avenues who hopefully hold a bit of authority. She completely agreed and asked me to do it for her mothers benefit as well.

she also pointed out a large stained section of path where she told me she’s caught him doing it. Lo and behold, flies everywhere.

Rightly or wrongly I’ve taken the bleach and I’ve poured it neat where me and my ds have to walk. I’ve then got the hose pipe and yard brush and swept it all back to his house… but the fall of the pavement just means it comes straight back :-(

I stood there for half an hour constantly sweeping the mixture back to his house. No sign of him whilst this was happening.

If I catch him in the act again shouty voice will have to come out. Emails are going to be sent left right and centre Monday morning.

OP posts:
disaggregate · 18/05/2024 19:31

BaldingMum · 18/05/2024 16:37

I caught him doing it again this morning. In a flower pot sat on a big dish right next to the back door.
Ive videod the aftermath which was essentially a flower pot full of soil frothing with hot urine. The dish the flower pot is sat in was full to the rim urine.
the amount that overflowed ended up on the path within the shared entrance area.
It has been roasting here today, and all day his stagnant urine has been there, gathering more flies with the odour getting worse and worse.

his daughter came round earlier and I told her (she was the one who initially told me what he was doing). I found myself getting upset telling her how bloody unfair and selfish he’s acting.

I told her I’m not comfortable talking to him anymore about this matter and I’ll be pursuing other avenues who hopefully hold a bit of authority. She completely agreed and asked me to do it for her mothers benefit as well.

she also pointed out a large stained section of path where she told me she’s caught him doing it. Lo and behold, flies everywhere.

Rightly or wrongly I’ve taken the bleach and I’ve poured it neat where me and my ds have to walk. I’ve then got the hose pipe and yard brush and swept it all back to his house… but the fall of the pavement just means it comes straight back :-(

I stood there for half an hour constantly sweeping the mixture back to his house. No sign of him whilst this was happening.

If I catch him in the act again shouty voice will have to come out. Emails are going to be sent left right and centre Monday morning.

Hope the emails work as much as possible, sounds like a really unpleasant situation OP

WitsEnd10 · 18/05/2024 19:54

BaldingMum · 17/05/2024 20:21

That’s the one. He appears to like showcasing it, always on show outside of his clothes, not even any kind of strapping to stop it swinging around.

There’s nothing dirty or shameful about a stoma. We don’t have to hide them under our clothes for your comfort.

Comedycook · 18/05/2024 19:58

BaldingMum · 18/05/2024 16:37

I caught him doing it again this morning. In a flower pot sat on a big dish right next to the back door.
Ive videod the aftermath which was essentially a flower pot full of soil frothing with hot urine. The dish the flower pot is sat in was full to the rim urine.
the amount that overflowed ended up on the path within the shared entrance area.
It has been roasting here today, and all day his stagnant urine has been there, gathering more flies with the odour getting worse and worse.

his daughter came round earlier and I told her (she was the one who initially told me what he was doing). I found myself getting upset telling her how bloody unfair and selfish he’s acting.

I told her I’m not comfortable talking to him anymore about this matter and I’ll be pursuing other avenues who hopefully hold a bit of authority. She completely agreed and asked me to do it for her mothers benefit as well.

she also pointed out a large stained section of path where she told me she’s caught him doing it. Lo and behold, flies everywhere.

Rightly or wrongly I’ve taken the bleach and I’ve poured it neat where me and my ds have to walk. I’ve then got the hose pipe and yard brush and swept it all back to his house… but the fall of the pavement just means it comes straight back :-(

I stood there for half an hour constantly sweeping the mixture back to his house. No sign of him whilst this was happening.

If I catch him in the act again shouty voice will have to come out. Emails are going to be sent left right and centre Monday morning.

God that's horrific. Poor you...what a nightmare

paisley256 · 18/05/2024 19:58

I really hope you get somewhere on Monday with the emails. I know what it's like to live next to shitty neighbours, it can take over your life. Good luck with everything op 💐

BaldingMum · 18/05/2024 20:12

WitsEnd10 · 18/05/2024 19:54

There’s nothing dirty or shameful about a stoma. We don’t have to hide them under our clothes for your comfort.

I meant no disrespect at all, and I apologise wholeheartedly I did not mean to generalise at all or course any offence.

There is absolutely nothing dirty or shameful about a stoma.

However there is something very dirty and shameful about this man and his behaviour, and the impact it is having on me and my ds and our home.

OP posts:
WitsEnd10 · 18/05/2024 20:16

BaldingMum · 18/05/2024 20:12

I meant no disrespect at all, and I apologise wholeheartedly I did not mean to generalise at all or course any offence.

There is absolutely nothing dirty or shameful about a stoma.

However there is something very dirty and shameful about this man and his behaviour, and the impact it is having on me and my ds and our home.

Thank you. I apologise if I came across short, that wasn’t my intention. I’m just rather over sensitive about it having been on the receiving end of some rather unpleasant comments at times.
I hope you manage to get the situation sorted out.

OutlawZeroHours · 19/05/2024 08:55

Be careful when taking video or photos of his garden or land, as opposed to shared areas.

Fraaahnces · 19/05/2024 10:23

If I caught him doing that I would be tempted to tell him I was going to douse HIM in bleach. Utterly vile.

whynotwhatknot · 19/05/2024 13:17

whhy is his dd leaving it to you to do somethhing

TroysMammy · 19/05/2024 15:26

@whynotwhatknot perhaps his daughter has been telling him to stop his disgusting habits until she is blue in the face and if the OP reports him to people in authority like Social Services then her father cannot blame his daughter for contacting them.

BaldingMum · 19/05/2024 15:27

I caught him doing it last night when I was in the garden about half 9. I heard him come out, and then I heard liquid hitting the ground.

I couldn’t help myself so I just opened the gate and stared at him. He tried to turn sideways to hide what he was doing but it was obvious, as clear ad anything.

I let rip, said it was a disgusting and completely selfish thing to do. Told him it absolutely stinks and pointed out the flies. He tried to say it was an emergency, which I shot down straight away as complete and utter bollocks.

I pointed at the flower pot (he was doing it next to the bins this time) that still contained his vile stagnant piss from 12 hours earlier. Pointed out the stained path where he’s done it god only knows how many times.

I asked him where does he think his piss washes to whilst pointing at my house. Told him it’s a complete health hazard and to pack it in at once, before slamming my gate shut and walking away.

He did try to mutter sorry and he wouldn’t do it again… but we’ll see…!

OP posts:
Keepthosenamesgoing · 19/05/2024 15:48

Well done OP. Hopefully that will shame him into stopping

LalaPaloosa · 19/05/2024 17:46

I can barely believe what I’m reading. I am So sorry you have to deal with this. Who would ever expect this?! I’m horrified.

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