My Disgusting Neighbour

[BaldingMum]

Terrace house with a shared passageway between mine and my neighbours houses which lead to a gate into my garden (neighbour has never put a gate up for theirs meaning their garden is fully visible to anyone walking down the passageway).

Neighbour has always hoarded in the garden, and it’s an absolute shit hole full of rotting rubbish. This has led to rats over the years which are primarily resident in his garden, although I have seen the odd one venture onto my garden leading me to put bait traps down.

Just about manageable, not ideal. However my neighbour, who has a colonoscopy bag, has started the disgusting habit of emptying his bladder on the back door step. The smell is indescribable. The flies are relentless.

My six year old child has to walk by this to get access to his garden and house (both of which are well kept and tidy).

the stickler is, my house is down hill to his, so inevitably when it rains, guess where all his body waste gets washed to.

He is completely blasé about it, doesn’t see a problem, his property etc etc. I’ve raised an environmental hazard complaint with the local council to see if they can do anything.

It stinks. It’s ruining the enjoyment of our garden. The flies are getting into our house. The rats are increasing.

WIBU to pour bleach where it’s evidentially doing this disgusting act? What the hell can I do to get this stopped?

Also please don't pour bleach in your garden

That sounds utterly vile and I agree with others who say to keep on at EH and police. Shooting rats? Hes not living on a farm ffs, there are other people with children in the vicinity!!
I was unfortunate enough to live in a block of flats where my opposite neighbour was a nightmare. The smell in the summer was horrendous. After to speaking with various neighbours it appeared he was using his KITCHEN SINK as a toilet and the neighbours across the way could see him 🤢
After a particularly prolonged and scary incident with him one day the police finally removed him.
Despite him owing (inherited) his property, he had ripped out the the bathroom completely and it was uninhabitable (with no money to fix). Coupled with his alcoholism and mental health issues a judge decided he couldn't live in the flat and I didn't see him again.

So, so far..............

I suggest drawing up one complaint so all parties involved get the full picture

Addressed to

1. Environmental Health Refuse and Urine
2. Adult Safeguarding Both members of the couple, Mrs in particular
3. Police, Gun Licence, Shooting Rats and exposing himself

Copy to all 3 with photo's

Send them all at the same time and make it clear to all 3 departments/organisations who else has been told

Report to adult safeguarding. Mention the rifle in your report.

If the interior of the house is also hoarded, I’d report that to fire service. Again, mention the rifle.

Council Environmental health. We had a similar issue and they said if there’s something causing a rat infestation they can take action.

If he is intentionally exposing his penis to view you can have police deal but if it's a bag he's emptying and nothing to see then I think peeing on your own land is completely legal. In fact it's technically illegal to put human waste (eg nappies) in the bin - although everyone that uses disposables does.

It sounds like your neighbour has serious health issues and possibly mental health difficulties as well would it be better to ring social services about adult safeguarding than try and get him in trouble?

Oh my god op you must be pulling your hair out. That is absolutely vile. Someone must be able to do something for you. The poster that mentioned three letters with photos to three departments has very good advice. I would add in maybe sending them by registered post and I agree with the person that also said about contacting a solicitor, if you have done all this maybe the solicitor can do even more on foot of the letters you sent if they are not dealt with? It could be that they might be able to threaten legal action against the department not helping and that might get them to move on it maybe? I’m not sure of the legalities but that is just awful to live beside and you shouldn’t have to.

Keep calling environmental health.
Call SS as you are concerned about both him and his wife. Not annoyed , very, very concerned.
Jeyes fluid. Dilute in a separate watering can with a rose and water the shared path freely with that. If there’s wooden fencing also water that to dilute urine. Ammonia from urine exposed to air will rot wood eventually.

This was my first thought. This man is clearly unable to take care of himself. In addition to environmental health I’d get in touch with Adult/Social services and raise a safeguarding concern. If his house is like that on the outside it’s likely to be 10 times worse inside.

She already has

You don't need a license to own an air rifle under 12ft/lb and can legally shoot vermin on your own land with it, so Police may not be interested unless it's shared land and you don't consent. Sounds like an awful situation, hopefully environmental health/social services can do something to help.

If I have understood correctly, instead of emptying his bag down the toilet he is emptying it in the garden. How ridiculous and unreasonable?!!!

Does he give a reason for mot emptying it into his toilet?😭

It’s an environmental health issue, particularly with the rats. You need to report.

How awful for you!

I can’t believe his family aren’t doing more about this situation tbh! Mind you, they haven’t got to live with the stench, you have, so time to be even more proactive.

Some great advice above regarding who to contact. I’d be tempted to attach photos AND a video showing the alleyway leading into your garden and the view into your neighbours yard.

In the meantime there was a previous post with some really useful advice regarding getting rid of the smell of urine. Sorry, can’t remember the name of the poster, but please don’t use bleach.

This post for the stench ^^

WHAT😱

Adult Social Services.

I’d take the wearing of the ‘pee’ bag outside his clothing as a disinhibition or signal of distress as he wants this to be noticed.

His wife is vulnerable & so is he. It’s a long term reflex not to accept help from children & family however adult, well meaning or purposeful they may be. Sometimes it takes the professional agency with specialist skills & mandatory purpose to cut through the resistances & restore safety & equilibrium.

As you say, their adult children are frustrated in their efforts to help both their mother & father, possibly over many years given the hoarding etc which does suggest longer term issues with MH & coping with everyday life/self care.

Adult Social Services are the people to contact.

Blimey!

Just seen the comment about the air gun.
Whilst this may be legal(?), shooting rats in the garden…

Contact your local councillor or MP to complain that Environmental Health are not tackling the problem.

I don't think that's the main takeaway of this post!

OP you poor thing. This sounds vile. I agree with PP. Make a log of every time you notice it (wet) and photograoh too. Report it each time to the council. I would also consider a social services referral too. It could be that he's not coping and given his wife is inside bedbound she may not be getting the care she needs too

If he has a catheter and she is housebound, there should be District Nurse involvement, so it may be that there is a safeguarding already in process if the nurses have seen the state they are living in… I would definitely report it to your local safeguarding team as others have suggested, and it would help support the case.

This is very helpful. OP, please do this.

Do you know if the family has contacted any of the agencies mentioned yet, or sought profession help for the situation?

Surely if they are so concerned they would take such action for the mother's sake at least.

My point is, if they have tried to get help for him, it doesn't look like anything has happened, so your efforts may not achieve much either, but the more complaints the better I suppose.

If the family hasn't sought professional help, well why not?

He’s not pissing from his penis, he is emptying the bag his urine is diverted to following surgery.

I wonder what the police would make of that in terms of urinating in public being illegal as he is emptying a plastic bag not exposing himself.

I’d hate to be in OPs position, the stench and flies must be horrible. But I wonder if emptying piss onto his own garden would be considered anti social behaviour. In a public space yes, his garden I’m not sure.