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Is mumsnet right wing?

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BrilloPadHairball · 17/05/2024 02:32

There are so many benefits bashing threads on here I’m really starting to wonder. Do the majority of people posting on mumsnet lean heavily to the right?

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BlackForestCake · 17/05/2024 08:28

AmusedMaker · 17/05/2024 07:55

The FWR topic seems to be quite right wing

feminists are traditionally left wing yes, but the whole trans debate has had them agreeing with right wingers who support their views on the subject - I think? ( Not an expert on this at all ) as it’s all too much for me.

But it goes to show that political views can shift depending on the subject and how it affects you.

Reality isn't right wing or left wing.

If we assume Hitler knew women were female and didn't have penises, that doesn't make it a right wing fact.

I am pretty sure Marx and Lenin also knew women were female and didn't have penises. Engels certainly did as he wrote a whole book about women being the ones who have the babies.

Everyone knows this except batshit mental cult supporters.

EasternStandard · 17/05/2024 08:30

JohnnyLuLus · 17/05/2024 08:27

I think Mumsnet reflects society, and as a country we are definitely more right leaning.

How does that tally with Labour atm?

Is that still the case if they get in

IWishThatYouWouldStay · 17/05/2024 08:32

Mumsnet is even more left wing than the BBC. And that's saying something 😂

BringMeSunshineAllDayLong · 17/05/2024 08:35

VickyEadieofThigh · 17/05/2024 07:43

Calling feminism "right wing" began when men demanded that women accept some men into our spaces, organisations, sports, dating apps and so on.

Feminists aren't "right wing" for refusing to do so.

Annoyingly the FWR has some poster who use the topic to bolster the Tories taking away from the actual end mission.
We all know the Tories are just pretending to care (and to use us as part of their attempt to retain power). If they genuinely did care they would do something about it right now (or in the last 14 years) but haven't.
Also feminists who see the issues beyond this one issue recognise the damage the Tories have done to the country impact women more.

Randomthought · 17/05/2024 08:36

AstralSpace · 17/05/2024 08:26

Most people are central with some leanings to left or right but the media wants you to think that everyone is extreme and divided into groups like loony lefties or right wing nutters.

Yes this. The parties shift dramatically too.

Im a swing voter not party inclined. I have never voted against the majority in any election.

I consider myself more libertarian than liberal, only slightly more liberal than conservative and more very much more conservative than authoritarian. Unfortunately the liberal parties have been quite authoritarian in recent years so that’s why I ended up over on the conservatives.

It’s not as simple as left or right as much as people like to think it. It’s a 4 pointed compass and sometimes your different places on different issues.

Brefugee · 17/05/2024 08:39

AmusedMaker · 17/05/2024 07:55

The FWR topic seems to be quite right wing

feminists are traditionally left wing yes, but the whole trans debate has had them agreeing with right wingers who support their views on the subject - I think? ( Not an expert on this at all ) as it’s all too much for me.

But it goes to show that political views can shift depending on the subject and how it affects you.

the Trans-thing on FWR doesn't mean that feminists have shifted to right wing beliefs. Feminism is fundamentally a left-wing ideology. What it does mean is that on one subject various disparate groups believe the same thing.

Why don't people say: oh those nazis are GC, that's the same as radical feminists. So that makes them left wing radical feminists.

Why isn't that said? Why is it always "oh those i don't agree with are right wing/nazis"?

My impression of MN? There are a vast variety of ideas/beliefs, some of which overlap, some of which don't.

AlisonDonut · 17/05/2024 08:46

MN is full of women who are distraught at the stance Labour is taking so no, not right wing at all.

It's a fine balance isn't it. Voting for a supposed left wing party to keep up your leftie credentials which then brings in sterilising gay, lesbian and autistic kids.

What a decision.

canp · 17/05/2024 08:59

I suppose it’s hard to say.

On the face of it, the vast majority of political posts on here are left wing/Labour supporters.

I think that’s because if anyone says that they’re going to vote conservative, they usually receive a barrage of hyperbolic abuse. Such as they don’t care about disabled people. So I guess there are many that won’t bother saying they’ll vote conservative.

The abuse you receive on here for voting anything other than Labour is ridiculous.

I personally think we are in very deep shit, regardless of who we vote in. I didn’t vote in 2019 as I thought both options were bad. My politics lie in the centre and I think parties should work together to produce solutions for individual issues, rather than sweeping everything up as left or right and having a toxic fight.

I may vote Conservative this time because if Labour get in, it will hurt me personally and immediately - I’ll have to pay VAT on my dd’s sixth form fees and given that my dh regularly works 100 hour weeks (and we both sacrifice our health) to afford the education in the first place, I feel pretty sick about a 20% charge on the top. We wouldn’t have had to go private if we had a great state option - but we don’t. My dd works her guts out and has 2 scholarships - but on MN is dismissed as a piece of shit rich kid who knows nothing about life. The maths has been done by economists - the policy won’t make money overall, it’s simply a way to win votes.

LadyHavelockVetinari · 17/05/2024 10:30

No lol. It's mixed, like real life.

Bululu · 17/05/2024 10:35

What a joke! This is if anything a wind up for right wing people. There are posters that are literally up for communism disguised on equality for all.

PilgrimsGrin · 17/05/2024 10:44

IWishThatYouWouldStay · 17/05/2024 08:32

Mumsnet is even more left wing than the BBC. And that's saying something 😂

Which isn't difficult considering how right wing the bbc is atm. Fiona Bruce and Laura Kuenssburg being prime examples.

tattygrl · 17/05/2024 10:53

The feminism boards are becoming more right-wing, due to them generally only caring about gender identity policies which means throwing support behind whichever party/candidate is the most trans-intolerant. I agree that the gender identity issue is complex and needs discussing, but it's at the point on those boards now that the tories are being supported as feminist champions because of their new sex-education policies (which include basically removing sex-ed for younger year groups - so dangerous), simply because there's trans criticism in there. Depressing.

wombat15 · 17/05/2024 10:54

It seems much more right wing than it used to be but that is probably because some right wing posters spend a lot of time here desperately trying to dissuade people to vote labour. The votes often tell a different story.
The people who are right wing will say MN is left wing and visa versa.

wombat15 · 17/05/2024 10:57

AlisonDonut · 17/05/2024 08:46

MN is full of women who are distraught at the stance Labour is taking so no, not right wing at all.

It's a fine balance isn't it. Voting for a supposed left wing party to keep up your leftie credentials which then brings in sterilising gay, lesbian and autistic kids.

What a decision.

Hyperbole

tennesseewhiskey1 · 17/05/2024 10:58

HAHA! no of course not, mumsnet are very leftwing!

Tattletwat · 17/05/2024 10:58

The left will say it's rightwing, the right will say it's left wing and in reality it settles somewhere in middle.

Just because someone has certain opinions on a certain subject doesn't necessarily make them right or left wing.

wombat15 · 17/05/2024 11:01

tattygrl · 17/05/2024 10:53

The feminism boards are becoming more right-wing, due to them generally only caring about gender identity policies which means throwing support behind whichever party/candidate is the most trans-intolerant. I agree that the gender identity issue is complex and needs discussing, but it's at the point on those boards now that the tories are being supported as feminist champions because of their new sex-education policies (which include basically removing sex-ed for younger year groups - so dangerous), simply because there's trans criticism in there. Depressing.

Yes, for some posters trans issues outweigh anything else it seems.

OneTC · 17/05/2024 11:02

Pretty representative I'd say. Generally it's pretty socially conservative, bit repressed, seems okay with status quo type politics, large mix of generally mild, if stated, political opinions, a few at each end making more noise than everyone

CandiedPrincess · 17/05/2024 11:08

Tattletwat · 17/05/2024 10:58

The left will say it's rightwing, the right will say it's left wing and in reality it settles somewhere in middle.

Just because someone has certain opinions on a certain subject doesn't necessarily make them right or left wing.

This is what I was going to say. I personally have views and opinions that could be considered left wing, I also have views and opinions that would be considered right wing. The reality is, I just have my own views and opinions and I don't really feel the need to lean one way or the other.

Luio · 17/05/2024 11:15

I think it is mostly centrist with a some accusing people of being far right or far left probably because they are either far right or far left.

Greenlittecat · 17/05/2024 11:18

I think a lot of posters are champagne socialists - don't vote Tory but slag you off for being on benefits/poor/not great at spelling/ "chavs" so more socilally right-wing (if that makes sense 🤔)

And God forbid you're trans/NB.

Crikeyalmighty · 17/05/2024 11:18

No in the main- I'm left of centre politically myself but I guess like other more mature women we've all come across a few real piss takers of the system and it is infuriating that they get away with it whilst other genuine people with real needs are having to jump through multiple hoops to get any help at all- I'm bloody angry on their behalf.

cardibach · 17/05/2024 11:19

Bollocks. I'm 59, worked full time al my life, more left wing now than ever because it makes mired sense.

Crikeyalmighty · 17/05/2024 11:22

@CandiedPrincess me too- it was interesting when we lived in Copenhagen - I would describe it as strong supportive social democracy - but with an iron fist.

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