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To think Keir Starner is ignoring women and children’s rights?

441 replies

Greengablesfables · 16/05/2024 17:58

Hello hello? Kier? We’re here. We are right here. We are Women. Are you listening to us? Hello? Hello?

To think Keir Starner is ignoring women and children’s rights?
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Meadowfinch · 17/05/2024 13:04

@GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight

Did I say I would vote for the Tories?

That's the problem. As women, we aren't exactly overwhelmed by great options are we. Most of the political parties want to remove the category of 'woman' all together, thus removing a century and a half of hard-fought-for rights, and the remainder just ignore us and hope we will be quiet.

BIossomtoes · 17/05/2024 13:05

For whatever reason you make it personal and insulting

Pot meet kettle. Who said this?

Don’t read it then 🤷‍♀️ you’re here every time

You're also more obsessed with ‘toilets’

Have you ever started a thread on the topic you want to discuss? or more about having a go on these ones

Marjoriefrobisher · 17/05/2024 13:09

BIossomtoes · 17/05/2024 13:05

For whatever reason you make it personal and insulting

Pot meet kettle. Who said this?

Don’t read it then 🤷‍♀️ you’re here every time

You're also more obsessed with ‘toilets’

Have you ever started a thread on the topic you want to discuss? or more about having a go on these ones

Gosh, posts like this are fun to read 🙄

EasternStandard · 17/05/2024 13:10

BIossomtoes · 17/05/2024 13:05

For whatever reason you make it personal and insulting

Pot meet kettle. Who said this?

Don’t read it then 🤷‍♀️ you’re here every time

You're also more obsessed with ‘toilets’

Have you ever started a thread on the topic you want to discuss? or more about having a go on these ones

Well you are here on these threads despite saying how much you’re not interested each time 🤷‍♀️

It’s not a comment on your life or whatever as in the pp.

Inaccurate on their part anyway.

BIossomtoes · 17/05/2024 13:10

Marjoriefrobisher · 17/05/2024 13:09

Gosh, posts like this are fun to read 🙄

Aren’t they just? They’re no fun to write either. If only they weren’t necessary.

L1ttledrummergirl · 17/05/2024 13:14

Marjoriefrobisher · 17/05/2024 13:02

Perhaps some of the businesses Ms Murthy invests benefit from government decisions; many businesses do. You were implying a great deal more than that; indeed, you still seem desperate to insinuate there is impropriety.
Again I have to wonder why it’s so difficult for some people to believe that the Murthys came by their wealth legitimately.

Perhaps some of the businesses Ms Murthy invests benefit from government decisions; many businesses do.

Mrs Sunaks husband is also indirectly benefitting. Just a teeny conflict of interest. I wonder what the current ethics advisor thinks?

Marjoriefrobisher · 17/05/2024 13:14

BIossomtoes · 17/05/2024 13:10

Aren’t they just? They’re no fun to write either. If only they weren’t necessary.

The term necessary clearly being given an unusual definition here.
its ok, you can spare me the explanation

BIossomtoes · 17/05/2024 13:15

L1ttledrummergirl · 17/05/2024 13:14

Perhaps some of the businesses Ms Murthy invests benefit from government decisions; many businesses do.

Mrs Sunaks husband is also indirectly benefitting. Just a teeny conflict of interest. I wonder what the current ethics advisor thinks?

Is there one now? Johnson dispensed with the role when he was PM.

Marjoriefrobisher · 17/05/2024 13:16

L1ttledrummergirl · 17/05/2024 13:14

Perhaps some of the businesses Ms Murthy invests benefit from government decisions; many businesses do.

Mrs Sunaks husband is also indirectly benefitting. Just a teeny conflict of interest. I wonder what the current ethics advisor thinks?

Why is it a conflict of interest? Are you saying that no member of the government can ever be in a position to benefit from government decision making? A startling proposition, if so

Marjoriefrobisher · 17/05/2024 13:18

Starmer’s wife works for the NHS. Does she have to resign to permit him to make decisions benefitting that organisation?

BIossomtoes · 17/05/2024 13:21

Marjoriefrobisher · 17/05/2024 13:18

Starmer’s wife works for the NHS. Does she have to resign to permit him to make decisions benefitting that organisation?

She’s an occupational therapist so hardly in a position to profit by squillions of £ if he was PM.

L1ttledrummergirl · 17/05/2024 13:21

Ok, I understand. It's perfectly OK for Sunak to make decisions on how to run the country based on how he and his family can personally indirectly profit, but It's not ok for Starmer to run the country based on what may or may not be right for his family.

No double standards there at all.Confused

ilovesooty · 17/05/2024 13:21

Marjoriefrobisher · 17/05/2024 13:09

Gosh, posts like this are fun to read 🙄

Well I'm sure you'll be told you don't have to read them 😁

BIossomtoes · 17/05/2024 13:22

ilovesooty · 17/05/2024 13:21

Well I'm sure you'll be told you don't have to read them 😁

😂

Marjoriefrobisher · 17/05/2024 13:24

L1ttledrummergirl · 17/05/2024 13:21

Ok, I understand. It's perfectly OK for Sunak to make decisions on how to run the country based on how he and his family can personally indirectly profit, but It's not ok for Starmer to run the country based on what may or may not be right for his family.

No double standards there at all.Confused

Im not the one saying there’s a problem here - you are.

EasternStandard · 17/05/2024 13:26

ilovesooty · 17/05/2024 13:21

Well I'm sure you'll be told you don't have to read them 😁

Nah you’ll always click on and read these threads 😀

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 17/05/2024 13:26

PoppingTomorrow · 17/05/2024 10:06

This in spades every time.

Anyone who thinks that voting for a party decimating free-at-the-point-of-need healthcare, education, and local council funding forcing cuts to early years services, and coming for workers' rights, is better than Labour must be smoking something.

Well said.

Marjoriefrobisher · 17/05/2024 13:27

BIossomtoes · 17/05/2024 13:21

She’s an occupational therapist so hardly in a position to profit by squillions of £ if he was PM.

But a benefit might be meaningful to one person which isn’t material to another. The issue is conflict of interest. If the principle is that members of the government can’t ever be in a position to benefit from government decisions (and I’m not arguing that - I think it’s mad) it’s got to be applied consistently.

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 17/05/2024 13:28

ilovesooty · 17/05/2024 09:06

Please don't tell me and other posters what I should read or respond to.

You wouldn't be trying to shut us up would you? 🤔

Let women speak!
(No not you 😁)
#womeneontwheesht
Except you. Sit down 😂

Tootiredforallthiscrap · 17/05/2024 13:29

Yup. Ever the bloody same. Maybe if people just accepted that the UK is not in a good state and stop trying to gas light us ?

EasternStandard · 17/05/2024 13:30

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 17/05/2024 13:28

Let women speak!
(No not you 😁)
#womeneontwheesht
Except you. Sit down 😂

What is it you’d like to say?

Apart from this is tedious, stop posting this shit

Anything

Marjoriefrobisher · 17/05/2024 13:32

I think what this discussion shows is that there is literally nothing the Sunak/Murthys could do to convince a certain type of person that his involvement in politics does not have a financial motive. I mean, his government is taking away non dom tax status and even that’s not enough.
its pretty sad, actually

ByKindOpalPoet · 17/05/2024 13:33

Marjoriefrobisher · 17/05/2024 13:32

I think what this discussion shows is that there is literally nothing the Sunak/Murthys could do to convince a certain type of person that his involvement in politics does not have a financial motive. I mean, his government is taking away non dom tax status and even that’s not enough.
its pretty sad, actually

The one they said they wouldn’t but only did because labour were going to and they wanted to stop that

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 17/05/2024 13:33

Tootiredforallthiscrap · 17/05/2024 13:29

Yup. Ever the bloody same. Maybe if people just accepted that the UK is not in a good state and stop trying to gas light us ?

Yes exactly, completely agree it's a state.
I'm bothered about the NHS, I trust Labour with it more than I do the Tories.
I'm bothered about community centres disappearing, which can be so much help when you've just had a baby and want some social interaction /health help etc.
These to me are important as a woman.

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