To be angry so many girls schools are going Co-Ed?

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Yet again it’s been proven girls do better in single sex schools (I have a son as well as a daughter so please don’t think I’m ’hating on boys’).

https://amp.theguardian.com/education/article/2024/may/12/girls-do-better-in-exams-at-all-girls-schools-than-mixed-research-finds

In my hometown growing up there were 4 girls schools. 1 grammar, 1 private, and 2 regular secondaries, meaning pretty much all parents regardless of background had access to single sex education for their daughters if they wanted it.

2 have announced their plans to go Co-Ed, with 1 already having done so, leaving just 1 (the grammar, so working class girls will be inherently disadvantaged). This seems to be a pattern across the country.

AIBU to be angry this is happening? Can’t girls have anything to themselves?

The costs are the same, pp for some reason thinks money saving by having mixed classes of 60 in a toxic co Ed is more important than developing confident, capable young women that are highly educated. When we think of what educated women bring to society it is a no brainer to invest in their education, safety and well being.

Sorry but I have heard similar elsewhere in single sex schools . It’s not unique or unusual at all. Just because you declare the majority experience different doesn’t make it so. All girl groups can be cruel and difference highlighted more. Girls want to fit in with other girls.Mixed sex groups can be far more accepting of difference and SEN.

STEM results being better for a small selected group of girls is improving equality for all girls how exactly?
Are we now assessing success and wellbeing only in terms of how many more girls are (probably pushed or at least nudged into) studying STEM subjects?
This has already been discussed quite a few pages back, so you might have missed it.

Girls deserve to be safe
Well educated
Have equal access to STEM
To be respected from a young age without being objectified
For their education to be prioritised and supported, and for the state to invest

The costs aren’t the same hence schools merging. Running 2 buildings, paying 2 sets of management and staff, 2 sets of bills, 2 SENCOs etc costs more.

Definitely.
There is a lot of ignorance on this thread.

Not my experience, at all. Boys can be very cruel and insensitive too.

I agree, and that's why we should ensure than can happen in every CoEd environment, not just in selected SS girls schools.

(They also need access to things other than STEM, presumably you don't think we will ALL be scientists? As it is CoEd schools also give them access to STEM and many CoEd schools take part in 'girls in science' type days - with events that only the girls within the CoEd school are even invited to. Interestingly there are no 'boys in subjects boys dont' tend to do so much' days).

And so can girls. When they don’t have both sexes to dilute it can and does become toxic.

I want girls to be safe. 1000 children need buildings and outlay and teaching regardless of how it is divided up!

unless you are suggesting classes of 60-70???

Boys and girls can be cruel.
Nobody has said anything to the contrary.
Evidence does suggest their cruelness can manifest in different ways, but it doesn't mean one sex is more or less cruel.

We cannot say 'I don't care about costs' because that isn't realistic in the state or private sector - surely you must see that?

Dilution? You have been very affected by your child’s asc and can only see through that lens clearly.

I want to invest in girls, yes.

I make no apologies for expecting the education of young women to be a priority in our society.

Everyone should be offered the choice everywhere. It’s unfair that some girls are forced to put up with barbaric conditions.

@KeinLiebeslied54321 ,

I think that you are making an assumption that the only reason for girls’ schools is ‘toxic’ boys (an expression that is deeply harmful for teenage boys, by the way).

It just isn’t!

When I have spoken to girls about why they like it, they just want a space away from the pressures of relationships and males, where teenage upsets and girls’ issues are prioritised. There is nothing toxic about boys wanting to answer a Physics question quickly, but girls still feel squeezed out.

In my top set at the mixed school, which was very strong with several potential Oxbridge candidates, the boys were on the whole delightful, but I still had to make a big effort to give the girls equal speaking time. This may be a societal problem or even innate (a whole different discussion) but, either way, pretending it doesn’t exist or that we just need ‘different’ boys, won’t make it go away.

And, you are right, plenty of girls flourish in a mixed environment but, for a significant proportion, they don’t. What is wrong with offering them a different choice?

^ this

Utter rubbish.
There is a trend on this thread, mainly from the some of the SS educated women, to make assumptions and accusations toward other posters, just because thoughts out with their bubble are being presented!

Already been answered, so no, not 'this'.

I went to a mixed school

Lol

They're significantly more likely to experience violence at single sex schools according to government funded studies. Is it worth experiencing that long lasting trauma for an extra 10% in their grades? That's the question.

A safe CoEd school is a better choice, where there is no suggestion that girls have to hide away or segregate themselves to be allowed to flourish and do well. Segregation in itself encourages the idea that they somehow need to be segregated because they can only show their worth away from boys - that's ridiculous!
As @Polishedshoesalways says, girls do need to flourish, quite why she thinks segregation is flourishing we'll never know, but I'm sure she's happy she (thinks) she got the last (repetitive) word.
Also, do you understand the word 'mainly'? It seems not.

Girls need space to grow, flourish and expand their intellect. They have hormones, social media, developing bodies and relationships to navigate. Of course their identity and academic ability are important factors too.