To be angry so many girls schools are going Co-Ed?

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Yet again it’s been proven girls do better in single sex schools (I have a son as well as a daughter so please don’t think I’m ’hating on boys’).

https://amp.theguardian.com/education/article/2024/may/12/girls-do-better-in-exams-at-all-girls-schools-than-mixed-research-finds

In my hometown growing up there were 4 girls schools. 1 grammar, 1 private, and 2 regular secondaries, meaning pretty much all parents regardless of background had access to single sex education for their daughters if they wanted it.

2 have announced their plans to go Co-Ed, with 1 already having done so, leaving just 1 (the grammar, so working class girls will be inherently disadvantaged). This seems to be a pattern across the country.

AIBU to be angry this is happening? Can’t girls have anything to themselves?

So they only chose grammars because they were single sex and otherwise went to comprehensives?

What are you talking about?

It was all Conservative during my schooling and mainly MC DC at Grammars.

There are plenty of Grammars round here. And catchment doesn't work the same anyway. It is not a lack of grammars that are the problem. As I said plenty round here. But they take the money from the comprehensives. You end up with a 2 tier system. Our grammars and church schools are fabulous and better than comprehensives in other areas. But our comprehensives are awful and much worse than comprehensives in other areas. I think each DC should get a good school not just those able to go to Grammars and Church schools.

Can I just make an important point please? Several posters have hinted, or even directly stated, that posters who don't support SS girls schools must also not want the best for education for girls or care about their well being - it's simply that many of us feel that girls can and do also experience a brilliant education and thrive in a CoEd school.

Girls need good female role models.
Girls need good male role models.
Girls need to be supported as part of a society which contains males and females.

Parents can be amazing role models but curious teens often respond better/differently to adults other than their parents or even peer role models.

(Boys need this too, clearly, but as the thread is about girls).

Ruined the flow aka offering a consistent opposing view. 😉

😂

The anger at people having different viewpoints is really weird on this thread. What’s the point of a discussion then?

The original idea, back in the Middle Ages, was to create schools to teach Latin, music, astronomy and maths - they were linked to cathedrals and other religious institutions. Later when the universities were established to educate children for those - including Latin. Victorian philanthropy added to their number.

Wrt girls’s grammars in particular - with the advent of feminism there was a strong drive to set up grammars for girls across the country to enable the education and empowerment of women.

The remaining grammars are mainly in wealthy areas such as Kent, London, Buckinghamshire - and their intake reflects that wealth. But my parents have friends who went to northern or Midlands grammars in industrial areas - who say the majority of their peers were working class like them.

We were talking about your idea that girls’s grammars cost twice as much to run as any other school iirc.

There are coed grammars.

Not where I live. Most are single sex in the UK so people don't have a choice.

Nope.
(Read the comment history).

That poster and I were having that particular conversation so mind your own business.

I think OP was hoping that most posters would agree with her and not question anything at all.

Maybe not but there are quite a few across the country.

Made up 😂 I have personal experience, studies, a vested interest as a I have a young daughter… what have you posted? Feeble allusions that you won’t evidence, zero personal experience and just ‘sob sob so mean to my son… no you’re making things up sob sob’

I’ve explained that so many times, you’re being obtuse.

Instead of one co Ed comprehensive a girls comprehensive would involve having the need for a second school too- one for boys( or don’t they get an education)?

That will involve double the buildings, staff, bills, budget etc.

It’s the poor quality and irrelevance to the discussion at issue.

Actually, if you read the history you'll find that you're the one who is jumping on a conversation - OP mentioned me, and @HumourM3 questioned her. You weren't even part of this particular interaction.

I was hoping people with experience of girls schools would post - and they have, mixed bag which I expected. I hoped parents of girls at these schools may want to discuss the future of single sex education. I hoped to have an interesting chat with people involved in the single sex system in some way.

But you’ve filled it up with your thin skinned nonsense and made it all about your son - well done 👏🏻

We could say the same to you.

Yet here we are.

No she hasn’t.

Or he - they won’t confirm as they like to hide their inexperience as mystique ‘oh but you don’t know me…’

Yeah if they had experience they would’ve shared it so stop pretending

I’ve been accused of being a man too- simply for having a differing opinion.

I’m not the one being obtuse. These schools already exist. Education per pupil aged 5-16 will cost the state £7690 in 2024-5. Whether they’re educated in y or z building, SS or coed makes no difference.