To be angry so many girls schools are going Co-Ed?

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Yet again it’s been proven girls do better in single sex schools (I have a son as well as a daughter so please don’t think I’m ’hating on boys’).

https://amp.theguardian.com/education/article/2024/may/12/girls-do-better-in-exams-at-all-girls-schools-than-mixed-research-finds

In my hometown growing up there were 4 girls schools. 1 grammar, 1 private, and 2 regular secondaries, meaning pretty much all parents regardless of background had access to single sex education for their daughters if they wanted it.

2 have announced their plans to go Co-Ed, with 1 already having done so, leaving just 1 (the grammar, so working class girls will be inherently disadvantaged). This seems to be a pattern across the country.

AIBU to be angry this is happening? Can’t girls have anything to themselves?

Once more in Henglish?

No, we aren't.
Something isn't true just because you decide it is.

It's perfectly understandable.
Attempt to belittle failed.

You don’t have to have direct experience to post on threads. This board would be quiet if so.

And this We could just ignore that poster comment of yours is probably the worst kind of cliquey and unpleasant attitude on the thread. Very poor.

I haven't actually 'whinged' at all though. I've made points to counter some of the, quite frankly ridiculous, assertions made against boys.
You trying to belittle or minimise a different point by calling it 'whinging' is quite low, unless you want to also call the OPs opening line 'whinging'.

Exactly! Resorting to such nasty behaviour because you don’t like the points made is juvenile.

Grammar schools often don't have catchment areas. The entry is entirely based on exam marks but most people are practical and choose one reasonably accessible on public transport. I don't think many people would move specifically to be near a co-ed grammar school rather than an all girls grammar school or visa versa. That would be ridiculous.

I’ve PMd you OP.

It's actually quite interesting to observe the tactics some posters are using to shut others down, almost like they are trying to assert some sort of power. It's failing. It's reminding me of a rather orange gentleman with a comb over.

😂😂😂

No but you have to be near enough to go. I actually cut that post down from a longer comment. It’s quite common to move to be in the catchment of a good comprehensive, or to move to grammar area, or to be near good private schools. Relocation for schools is fairly common in general.

But you have no guarantee of getting in even if you pass. The schools are ranked . The Co Ed grammar in our area is the hardest to get into because everybody wants it.

I think it's probably more common for those with more disposable income. People shouldn't HAVE to move, state funded schools should all be on a par with each other (allowing for the odd speciality school, such as a music specialist school or a dance academy school).

People might move for a good school if none nearby are good but moving miles away for a co-ed or single sex preference is quite extreme. The nearest co ed to me is a couple of hours drive away. All the grammars are good schools.

The point is if parents are going to move for a school they will move for one/s that suit their kids and their educational values. They have the choice of moving near SS or coed if they prefer.

Depressing. How will we ever achieve equality in things like refuse collection and sewage jobs? I've never seen a binwoman.

Steady on. I don't think we can just assume that somebody is a man because they post in an erudite fashion.

Parents don't need to move usually for a grammar school though. If they are all good academically, they will just choose one their child can get to. Moving is quite extreme given it could mean changing jobs, moving siblings from their schools etc.

Of course they do there aren’t that many grammars left in the country.

There are immigrants who have moved across the world for education and opportunities - moving area ain’t all that.

Just in case anyone is in Scotland/planning a move to Scotland and wants to send their daughter to a single sex school, there are actually no remaining state funded girls only schools in Scotland.
Notre Dame in Glasgow was the last, but from 2021 onward would begin allowing boys in the new S1 (start of secondary) intake. I remember the discussion in the news at the time, with mixed views.

Moving definitely isn't a feasible option for everyone, it's unrealistic to suggest it is.

Come back when your boy children go through puberty and you look at their internet history 👍
you’d be afraid of boys too if you had countless friends and sisters sexually assaulted. Sorry that you’re in denial about that.
also congrats on being oblivious to the experiences of other women in male-dominated fields - so you think that the fact that women don’t stay in male-dominated fields is caused by their mothers telling them they’re disadvantaged? You’re laughably ignorant, maybe try reading some studies hun

i said I wasnt discouraged from stem until I went to mixed sex sixth form. I cba to look up the stats so I’m not making a general call.
yeah ok maybe they’re cyber bullying but they’re much less likely to be sharing graphic porn with each other

I realised I see the erosion of girls schools as another example of how our rights as women (and girls) are being slowly dismantled and taken away. It’s linked to how I feel about the trans movement, and how men and boys feel they can access absolutely everything, everywhere in whatever way they want to.

It does not surprise me that Scotland have stripped girls schools out, given they are happy to have convicted rapists in female prisons, clearly women’s rights and safety are being obliterated and are in no way a priority there, and this happened under a female first minister!

The sheer naivety, distortion and denial that is being wheeled out by the ‘boys will be boys’ brigade is fucking sickening on here. We need our single sex spaces to be preserved for so many reasons, especially in education.

YOU might be happy to raise girls in a toxic environment of misogyny, sexism and risk. With girls being repeatedly exposed to situations that erode their self worth, confidence and ability but many of us want far more for our children.

That simply learning to tolerate such abuse and moreover to learn to be ‘grateful’ should another boy ‘stand up’ for them is absolutely a dire situation in 2024! As one grateful mother posted up thread, appearing not to understand about learned helplessness. Even the best examples of co Ed on here admitted a degree of chauvinism and sexism was ‘normal’. They had already normalised this behaviour in boys.

We need more choice, not less. So every girl can choose how she wants to shape her education, her future and be able to achieve her potential. It’s really not much to ask for!

@Polishedshoesalways just for info, there are no state-funded single sex schools in Scotland for either sex, and tbh they have been seen by most people as something of the past for a very long time. The parents and girls of Notre Dame were very aware that they were accessing a specialist schooling that the majority of other Scottish girls (or boys) were not given access to (and hadn't been for a while). Most Scottish parents know that they have to access an independent school should they want their child educated in a single sex environment, and of course we know that isn't an option open to all.
Scottish parents accept that CoEd is the way children are taught in the state system. We want good schools, where ALL pupils flourish, where SEN needs are met, where respect is taught, where issues such as bullying, racism, sexism and homophobia are not tolerated, and where all children can achieve their potential.