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To be angry so many girls schools are going Co-Ed?

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FaeryRing · 12/05/2024 20:38

Yet again it’s been proven girls do better in single sex schools (I have a son as well as a daughter so please don’t think I’m ’hating on boys’).

https://amp.theguardian.com/education/article/2024/may/12/girls-do-better-in-exams-at-all-girls-schools-than-mixed-research-finds

In my hometown growing up there were 4 girls schools. 1 grammar, 1 private, and 2 regular secondaries, meaning pretty much all parents regardless of background had access to single sex education for their daughters if they wanted it.

2 have announced their plans to go Co-Ed, with 1 already having done so, leaving just 1 (the grammar, so working class girls will be inherently disadvantaged). This seems to be a pattern across the country.

AIBU to be angry this is happening? Can’t girls have anything to themselves?

Girls do better in exams at all-girls schools than mixed, research finds | Schools | The Guardian

Pupils in girls’ schools in England outperform girls with similar records and backgrounds in mixed schools, analysis says

https://amp.theguardian.com/education/article/2024/may/12/girls-do-better-in-exams-at-all-girls-schools-than-mixed-research-finds

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KeinLiebeslied54321 · 14/05/2024 18:25

HumourM3 · 14/05/2024 18:21

What a ridiculous and unpleasant thing to say.

I've reported it.
There's been some real to and fro on here but I think that poster has actually just shown their true colours. Not clever.

Polishedshoesalways · 14/05/2024 18:27

KeinLiebeslied54321 · 14/05/2024 18:25

I've reported it.
There's been some real to and fro on here but I think that poster has actually just shown their true colours. Not clever.

Gasp

Polishedshoesalways · 14/05/2024 18:28

Swoon

KeinLiebeslied54321 · 14/05/2024 18:30

Polishedshoesalways · 14/05/2024 18:24

You are not really living up to your user name if you can’t actually recognise humour.

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MN have deleted your 'humour'.

Polishedshoesalways · 14/05/2024 18:31

If you don’t like girls schools, send your girls to co Ed - simples

Polishedshoesalways · 14/05/2024 18:32

KeinLiebeslied54321 · 14/05/2024 18:30

MN have deleted your 'humour'.

I’ll recover 😊

KeinLiebeslied54321 · 14/05/2024 18:33

@Ambergrease part of me understands why you feel that way and part of me feels like we have to keep fighting so that all children get an equal chance to thrive.

HumourM3 · 14/05/2024 18:34

Polishedshoesalways · 14/05/2024 18:24

You are not really living up to your user name if you can’t actually recognise humour.

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The Tates are being investigated against dreadful crimes against women- and you think that’s funny. We have differing tastes in humour.

KeinLiebeslied54321 · 14/05/2024 18:36

Greengablesfables · 14/05/2024 18:20

'all boys are bad and we just need to keep our perfect girls away from them'.

Sigh. No one on this thread is saying that. That would be a ridiculous thing to say wouldn’t it.

Some people ARE saying that though, not with those exact words, clearly. There are loads of posts criticising boys and lumping them all together as bad, while minimising issues girls can create.

KeinLiebeslied54321 · 14/05/2024 18:37

HumourM3 · 14/05/2024 18:34

The Tates are being investigated against dreadful crimes against women- and you think that’s funny. We have differing tastes in humour.

At least we know what sort of person is behind that username now. I won't be interacting with her anymore.

HumourM3 · 14/05/2024 18:52

KeinLiebeslied54321 · 14/05/2024 18:36

Some people ARE saying that though, not with those exact words, clearly. There are loads of posts criticising boys and lumping them all together as bad, while minimising issues girls can create.

Exactly. The bullying my dd had from girls lead to a suicide attempt. Girls can be brutal as can boys. In my experience single sex schools exacerbate it in both.

Greengablesfables · 14/05/2024 18:52

KeinLiebeslied54321 · 14/05/2024 18:24

My username starts with Kein.
My username isn't Ken.

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It’s Ken in Irish

Mirabai · 14/05/2024 18:52

KeinLiebeslied54321 · 14/05/2024 18:36

Some people ARE saying that though, not with those exact words, clearly. There are loads of posts criticising boys and lumping them all together as bad, while minimising issues girls can create.

No they’re not, that’s just your defensive insecurity.

I don’t need to pop up saying NABALT every time teenage boys behaviour is analysed.

pointythings · 14/05/2024 18:54

Greengablesfables · 14/05/2024 18:52

It’s Ken in Irish

Kein Liebeslied means 'No love song'.

Greengablesfables · 14/05/2024 18:55

pointythings · 14/05/2024 18:54

Kein Liebeslied means 'No love song'.

Aw that’s sad

Riversideandrelax · 14/05/2024 18:55

I would love for (non-fee paying) parents to have a genuine choice.

We have girls schools here but they are all Grammar and church. So most girls don't get the opportunity. I was lucky to be able to get my DD in to the church girls school. It was the only school that would meet her needs.

upthehills1 · 14/05/2024 18:56

FaeryRing · 12/05/2024 21:04

I think this is a myth. I think they’ve just learned how to deal with undesirable male behaviour better at the cost of their education.

Is there data around post education years for women who attended girls schools? I ask because I only know 2 women who attended girls schools and both were pregnant by 21

HumourM3 · 14/05/2024 18:56

Mirabai · 14/05/2024 18:52

No they’re not, that’s just your defensive insecurity.

I don’t need to pop up saying NABALT every time teenage boys behaviour is analysed.

They are saying that. I and others have seen it too.

Mirabai · 14/05/2024 18:59

HumourM3 · 14/05/2024 18:56

They are saying that. I and others have seen it too.

So you say they are, Kein says they’re not with those exact words.

If they are, please point to a post that says: 'all boys are bad and we just need to keep our perfect girls away from them' or words to that effect.

Mirabai · 14/05/2024 19:02

I’d like to draw your attention to the general online tendency that when women or girls are being discussed in any context someone comes along with: won’t someone think of the menz.

Mirabai · 14/05/2024 19:03

On a thread about female education here we are talking about boys.

HumourM3 · 14/05/2024 19:07

Mirabai · 14/05/2024 19:03

On a thread about female education here we are talking about boys.

Because others are banging on about all boys being so bad girls need to be educated away from them. That is pretty much what the whole thread is about🙄

WhySoMuchNoise · 14/05/2024 19:14

Mirabai · 14/05/2024 19:03

On a thread about female education here we are talking about boys.

Of course we are! Because girls schools’ aim is to keep girls away from boys, so boys’ behaviour is integral to the discussion. Were you trying to be clever with that comment?!

KeinLiebeslied54321 · 14/05/2024 19:17

Greengablesfables · 14/05/2024 18:52

It’s Ken in Irish

It's German, not Irish.

KeinLiebeslied54321 · 14/05/2024 19:18

Mirabai · 14/05/2024 19:03

On a thread about female education here we are talking about boys.

Of course boys will come into a discussion about why to educate girls separately from boys.

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