Israel and Eurovision

[Carly944]

I've seen all the protests that Israel shouldn't have been allowed to enter the Eurovision. I don't think politics should be part of eurovision

Has everyone forgotten that a lot of countries at this stage have invaded each other, and that a lot of countries have a bloody and violent past.

The United Kingdom invaded many countries and massacred and killed many many people in the past.

Germany have obviously started two world wars.

Spain have invaded countries and done a lot of brutality to people in the past.

Should none of these countries be allowed to enter eurovision then. If we are going to put politics into it, nearly every European country would be banned from eurovision.

Israel is far from the only country in the world that have invaded and massacred people. Its awful, but it has also been awful when other countries did it. And many of them have. So I'm not sure why there was just the call for Israel to be banned

Except the person who said Hamas “Just reached breaking point”

That person apparently misread what is meant to in order to have a I AM NOT ANTI-SEMITIC BECAUSE I SUPPORT PALESTINE sulk

I think it's pretty clear the difference - those wars / conflicts you mention are historical. Israel is current. Worth remembering that Russia was banned on these grounds too. It is in poor taste watching the Israeli singer using this hugely international platform to sing a song with lyrics about how they suffered from the Hamas killings. That just doesn't sit right with me. I'd feel the same if it were only the Palestinians on the stage singing about Israeli killings.

Have you spoken to every Irish person?

Have you?

I don't support anyone.

Warring countries are immature. Wars are always started by men.

They are ridiculous.

I thought we as a world would have developed beyond it by now.

We need more women in positions of power.

Well there’s no one in Ballymahon I can assure you! 🤣

With respect if you’re going to make quite serious claims including “Israel has a campaign of hate against Greece” you absolutely do need to show proof otherwise I reserve the right to think you’re a liar

Did you miss what the Greek contestant did to the Israeli contestant? And can you show how these comments are made by the Israeli team?

I didn’t ignore anything I’m just getting round to certain comments now.

Thatcher.

No. She placed 2nd in the public vote. What was the boycott supposed to achieve if she became so popular?

"The Holocaust Memorial Trust classifies the following as anti-semitism:

Drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis."

Genocide is genocide.

I'll compare it to Cambodia if you'd prefer. Or Rwanda. Or Rohingya. Or Bosnia.

The death toll has just about surpassed Rohingya, and is approaching Bosnia. Who knows, it might reach Rwanda levels.

Why have you been accused on anti-semitism exactly?

And it’s not on par for the call for peace it’s on par with being anti-Semitic such as spreading misinformation about Newish people being bullied and thieves and using trickery to win

Likewise.

No-on, but no-one is excusing the atrocities of October 7th. But to say this 'war' started on October 7th is just ridiculous. It started over 70 years ago, and has been relentless on the Palestinians.

https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2024/5/13/israel-killing-palestinians-in-cold-blood-in-the-west-bank

THIS THIS THIS.

Like, where?

If you read the above article I posted re how votes work by Prof Cunningham from TU Dublin.
It will all become clear @YaMuvva

Please show me where I said "israel has a campaign of hate towards greece"?

Absolutely. 👏👏👏👏👏

@YaMuvva

"Like, where?"

Give over for god sake - on every single thread about Palestine.

I think Helen is fairly well switched on. You just don't like what she has to say. That's different.

Other countries aren't currently murdering 1000's of women & children are they?

Boycotting south african goods helped end apartheid.

It's a valid point imo.

So you’re saying Eden Golan <checks notes> used her campaign to support her country massacring other people?

Can I ask why you are so forthright with this misinformation and how you expect to be believed with absolutely no evidence?