Israel and Eurovision

[Carly944]

I've seen all the protests that Israel shouldn't have been allowed to enter the Eurovision. I don't think politics should be part of eurovision

Has everyone forgotten that a lot of countries at this stage have invaded each other, and that a lot of countries have a bloody and violent past.

The United Kingdom invaded many countries and massacred and killed many many people in the past.

Germany have obviously started two world wars.

Spain have invaded countries and done a lot of brutality to people in the past.

Should none of these countries be allowed to enter eurovision then. If we are going to put politics into it, nearly every European country would be banned from eurovision.

Israel is far from the only country in the world that have invaded and massacred people. Its awful, but it has also been awful when other countries did it. And many of them have. So I'm not sure why there was just the call for Israel to be banned

Because I have a brain and critical thinking ability?

People are justifying the rapes torture and murder of innocent Israelis are “well they were pushed to it”. But seem to believe that Israel cannot defend themselves against a terrorist organisation who has a mandate to rid the world of Jews.

No I do not think they’re the same. I

Do you have a source for this?

Nobody justified any rapes or murders. Nobody!

So stop saying it!

Or maybe you could have said, 'shit, I misread what you wrote. Sorry for trying to be a shitty smartarse about it.'

Because you thought you were being smart and trying to belittle me. Instead of reading it properly. You were trying to be sanctimonious as it happens because you don't like it when people burst the bubble of your hug box.

Irish people are mostly nice and we aren't especially affected. The vast, vast majority of people were disgusted by her bullying narcissism. That's why a very significant number of people voted for Golan and she came second. And not just in Ireland, all over Europe and Australia.

What campaign of hate?

And countries are entitled to drum up support for votes. No one complained when Sam Ryder did it

Honestly if people are gonna peddle conspiracy theories on this thread at least show some solid evidence.

I don't know a single homosexual (and I include myself in this) who isn't laughing their heads off at Queers for Palestine and calling them Chickens for KFC.
The actual gays really have nailed quiet rallying to a tee - 20 votes on the app and 3 pink pounds well spent 😂

Have they asked you why the boycott didn’t work?

I am not sanctimonious, and not trying to be smart. I have an opinion, which you may disagree with, but which I'm entitled to all the same.

Literally not true! You're projecting your own opinions. To claim that irish people support Israel... I mean do you even believe your own rubbish?

We’re other contestants getting death threats and having thousands protest outside their hotel? What do other contestants need security for?

Irish people can't win 😂

I don't need to post evidence. To quote another poster here 'it's fucking mumsnet'.

I did however post screenshots of the call for people to vote for Israel. But you ignored that. I've seen seriously hateful comments towards the Greek contestant... including super personal stuff while mocking her. Believe me or don't. I don't care... but it's all out there

Didn't it?

I've seen death threats and all kinds of abuse thrown at the Irish contestant. They were all put in a very precarious situation. I fear she does not have the protection that Eden has though, and I truly hope she'll be ok

What do you think it achieved?

Because it’s not in fact a peace movement

Literally no one is accusing people of being anti-Semitic for supporting innocent Palestinians. No one, and the claims they are are just a deflection.

If you’re being accused of anti-semitism maybe look at the language you’re using behind Palestinian support and perhaps look into what is actually classed as anti-semitism

Of course I've been accused of being antisemitic... many times! It's par for the course these days when you call for peace. Sadly not many take it seriously as a word anymore. I hope that changes

Great post

Not really, it's incredibly patronising

Oh and literally many people are accusing people of being antisemitic for supporting innocent Palestinians... like literally all the time!!!!!

I posted a video on the other thread of all the winners since it started up to 2023, just 10-15 seconds from each winning performance. It was a great watch but it was almost like a flick-book of “from conservative to camp”. I don’t think that’s because Israel and Australia started to take part it’s because it’s been 70 years since it started and I find it v amusing that people are suddenly so upset that they take part

No they haven’t. Unless you can show me?

Why did you make out that’s what I meant anyone when clearly my post was about the Nazi comparison.

Most people who support the Palestinian people aren't anti-semetic. However your whole, "the Jews orchestrated a manipulation of the Eurovision vote" was actually an example of anti-semetic propaganda.

Did you object when Sam Ryder drummed up support in non-UK countries?

Literally not what I said... but I see what you did there