Israel and Eurovision

[Carly944]

I've seen all the protests that Israel shouldn't have been allowed to enter the Eurovision. I don't think politics should be part of eurovision

Has everyone forgotten that a lot of countries at this stage have invaded each other, and that a lot of countries have a bloody and violent past.

The United Kingdom invaded many countries and massacred and killed many many people in the past.

Germany have obviously started two world wars.

Spain have invaded countries and done a lot of brutality to people in the past.

Should none of these countries be allowed to enter eurovision then. If we are going to put politics into it, nearly every European country would be banned from eurovision.

Israel is far from the only country in the world that have invaded and massacred people. Its awful, but it has also been awful when other countries did it. And many of them have. So I'm not sure why there was just the call for Israel to be banned

Brilliant. Bambie thug ironically seems like quite a sweet person... and I hope they have some kind of legal support when they get home, because I see plenty of lawsuits. I also hope the harassment ends now! Nobody attacked the Israeli entrant personally, but the harassment of BT has been very upsetting

Well, countless survivor testimonies on YouTube and reported in the media. Including the Muslim women's rights activitist, Dr Qanta Ahmed, after visiting the sites and viewing the 45-minute compilation movie of atrocities from the massacre. At 1:08 , she says "I have talked to survivors that were defending themselves, their neighbours, from multiple terrorists... tragically, also from hundreds, if not thousands, of civilians as well, from Gaza, that came repeatedly. I have met with children that were terrorized by this."

Honestly I think people think because they type it out on the internet it must make it true

Except no one has said this.

Anti-semitism somehow gets a free ride.
Posters should know better than this and why that kind of language matters

Here's the thing... I see no comments supporting Hamas. However, I see no difference between what the Israeli government is doing and this terrorist organisation. How do you not see the similarities?

No

And the reason has been posted many times

What exactly are you suggesting when you say “well played Israel”?

And when you say the Israeli contestant was a bully do you have evidence? LOADS of people have made this claim and no one has provided the receipts.

She has been called up for her conscription and is ‘ready’ apparently but has stated music is her no 1 priority. That’s hardly someone crowing she’s off to murder babies

I switched off for Israels performance though, and took the moment to discuss with my children why we should not watch.

What did you say to them?

Oh and other things like Noa Argamani's kidnap, which seems to have been the work of civilians, as reported by NBC News ("most likely abducted by a mob of Gazans that swept into Israel hours after the initial attack. That may explain why she was not released during the November cease-fire: Hamas may not be holding her, or even know where she is").

It probably didn't help that Hamas offered money for hostages and perhaps also for dead bodies, which might explain the general jubilation (e.g. Shani Louk) and also things like all the scalpings that took place at Nova Festival - maybe they wanted tropies to cash in.

Obviously it goes without saying they want Palestinians returned.

In the last hostage release the IDF re arrested many that had been released as part of the agreement and arrested even more from the WestBank and threw them in jail without reason and without trial. This was happening during the ceasefire. They are all still there.

Based on this modus operandi of the Israeli Govn it would be OK then for Hamas to release Israelis and then arrest many more just like the IDF are doing.

Thanks for this.
This is the lady we all saw on the motorbike.
There isn’t any information who took her from this article.
Satnav etc stuff suggests it ‘may’ not have been Hamas but NBC think it ‘probably’ was.

So no proof of anything then and no idea of her whereabouts as yet.

How very sad! Let’s hope 🙏 she is released if there’s ever a ceasefire !

I said 'the team', not specifically the singer. And also, as a wider point... the media and fans who have been leading a campaign of hate towards, at least, the Irish and Greek contestants, amongst others.

And I said well played Israel, as I would to any country who lead such a concerted worldwide effort to rally people to vote for them.

I do not believe Israel should have been banned. Many will disagree. But once the decision of the relevant parties were made, other participants, the crowd, and bloody rent-a-protester Gretta Thunberg should have left that poor performer alone. Even if you are the greatest of Pro-Palestinian protestor, surely you lower yourself and your cause to the gutter by harassing a young woman in her moment of fame, to such an extent that she couldn't leave her hotel and needed 24/7 guards?

And these "Queers for Palestine" are bloody idiots. This "Palestine" they talk of would have them flying off the nearest high-rise within minutes. The only country that they'd be allowed to live in peace and flaunt their sexuality and gender identity would be Israel.

They're obviously aware of the situation anyway. However I used the moment to remind them of how important boycott is and how many people worldwide are refusing to watch altogether

Ok
So a quick Google on The Times Of Israel paper and
another hostage who was released Ms Mora Yanai told the paper she was held captive with Ms Argamani, the lady in your article.
So they were both held together with one released by Hamas.

So Hamas have her.

Nb. Update to note Hamas do have her as confirmed by a released hostage.
Apologies
The previous comment was based on out of date information.

Absolutely. She's the main face I remember from 7th October, and I often think of her. Its so desperately sad, and I hope she'll be released unharmed 😳

Because making it a bigger competition hasn't been a positive. The original format was so much better, as I said before if people want a worldwide competition then start one rather than spoiling something that was good.

@HelenHen clearly MNHQ agree with you.

Sadly the other contestants had no such security and protection.

And how dare you call somebody an idiot for calling for peace, just because of their sexuality! 😡

Are you for real. Every single person I have spoken to in real life about Bambie has described her as a miserable, tantruming toddler who at 31 should be ashamed of her carry on. I know some people who admire her, but irl, she's been a topic of conversation for the last 5-6 days and the one and only good thing I've heard anyone say about her, is when I said I liked how she worked ballet into her dance. Most people are disgusted by her behaviour. And even though yes, most people want a ceasefire, everyone is appalled about how that poor kid, Eden Golan was bullied. She's a kid singing a song. I was delighted to see the votes she got.

And our jewish population is negligible. The general population voted Eden as our second choice because we hate bullies and don't want to be represented by a miserable narcissist.

Nothing happened to them. We all saw the 'harassment' videos. They weren't harassment and while not nice, they didn't come fucking close to what we all saw that kid endure.

Irgun were Jewish terrorists, I never said all Jews were terrorists but Irgun were just like not all Palestinians are Hamas but Hamas if a Palestinian terrorist organisation.

You can also see a full outline on all misinformation re the war and October 7th after full investigations were carried out.
You posts relate to the period before investigations.

I prefer facts after they have been verified.
I posted the article above but it’s a simple Google and on wiki.

Just as I refused to believe the IDF would use chemical warfare until it was actually proved they did.

So worth reading the facts to always be sure