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To think that everything Fiona Harvey said in her Piers Morgan interview was a lie? [Edit by MNHQ]

618 replies

Eshmee · 09/05/2024 21:20

Having watched her interview this evening, everything about her screamed 'liar'. Her language, her demeanor, her body language. I just wonder what other think?

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Peppermintytea · 10/05/2024 10:27

StarsHideYourFir3s · 10/05/2024 09:43

My concern is that she's going to go after Jessica Gunning.

This is my concern as well. She's very hostile towards her - despite it being a very flattering portrayal of her, physically (JG is younger, much prettier etc).

ShortFatHouseElf · 10/05/2024 10:34

tiredandabitfat · 09/05/2024 23:49

Yes, I found that really weird.

Particularly when she said she saw that Gadd had a show at the Edinburgh festival 5 years ago on bbc breaking news.

???

Nobody knew who Gadd was 5 years ago. Why the hell would that be on BBC Breaking News??

Also, her smug little smile and laugh when Piers said he doesn't know anybody with 6 email addresses. "Well, you obviously don't know many people then" BlushBlushBlushBlush

It’s bbc radio Scotland’s “Breaking the News”, which is a bit like the radio 4 “News Quiz”

0tterish · 10/05/2024 10:37

I don't imagine Gadd had any idea how big this would be and probably has some regrets about how they did it.

BustyLee · 10/05/2024 10:37

BustyMcgoober · 09/05/2024 21:44

I’m watching it now. It’s really uncomfortable. He’s baiting her and she’s falling over all her lies.

I’ve met people like her before.

Her repeated mentions of BBC Breaking News is quite funny though.

When she talks about BBC breaking news isn't she just referring to the BBC news website, which is breaking news every hour of the day - even about very mundane subjects. I don't think she means that it was some big deal on the TV news.

BustyLee · 10/05/2024 10:38

ShortFatHouseElf · 10/05/2024 10:34

It’s bbc radio Scotland’s “Breaking the News”, which is a bit like the radio 4 “News Quiz”

She's right, though. I don't have loads of email addresses, but a lot of people do because they want to protect their online identity.

Verbena17 · 10/05/2024 10:39

Whatever happened or didn’t, that lady still is a very vulnerable person and should be treated as such.

TV companies and Piers Morgan should have said no to having her speak.
To be honest whilst the Netflix show may have been very good and bla bla bla, they’ve told a story about a woman who is still very much here today and I think they’ve been extremely irresponsible in allowing Gadd to make it.

pantsalot · 10/05/2024 10:40

Cliedi · 10/05/2024 09:36

Of course she’s lying. Focusing on what she’s saying (However entertaining it might be to you) isn’t relevant really. Piers Morgan is parading a person with a serious personality disorder around in public to humiliate them. What would help right now is a psychiatrist.

Do we expect anything different from him?

0tterish · 10/05/2024 10:41

I have six email addresses!

ShortFatHouseElf · 10/05/2024 10:45

BustyLee · 10/05/2024 10:38

She's right, though. I don't have loads of email addresses, but a lot of people do because they want to protect their online identity.

I don’t know what you mean. I’m trying to point out that there is a bbc radio Scotland topical quiz programme with Scottish comics called “Breaking the News”, and where they often refer to Fringe shows and winners. So it’s perfectly possible that Gadd was a guest or his show was referred to.

It’s also possible that PM is unaware of this, and that Fiona was not talking about bbcbreaking news on tv or website but actually the radio programme.

Kesio · 10/05/2024 10:47

I was recoiling into my seat when I watched this and I couldn't watch it all.

I think I would be fucking careful if I were Jessica Gunning.

MinervaMcGonagallsCat · 10/05/2024 10:52

My experience of her (25-30 years ago) was that she was not vulnerable.

Everyone else was.

She could flip in an instant. Be chatting and giggling and then suddenly screaming then back to chatting and giggling without missing a breath.

She made threats all the time.

I witnessed her physically assaulting a woman. It came out of nowhere. Sudden and vicious and unprovoked.

Social media and even email wasn't a thing back then so she would follow people and leave long rambling answering machine messages.

She scared me.

1clavdivs · 10/05/2024 11:00

I disagree with the PP who said that men's motivation for stalking is to control, and that women's motivations are different. There are different stalker typologies, and each has a different motivation regardless of sex. Martha is presented as having Intimacy Seeker typology, and these are much more likely (whether male or female) to have mental health issues, particularly delusional disorders. I agree that hounding her is not going to help, but is only likely to make things worse. She needs treatment; she won't be able to change her behaviour on her own.

The problem that I can see with the show is that, as Gadd says, some of the incidents (the bar fight, the prison sentence) never happened. And yet the show states it is 'a true story' rather than 'based on real events/some scenes added for dramatic purposes' etc. I don't know if legally this makes a difference, but I would have thought so.

StoneColdAlibi · 10/05/2024 11:02

JellyBeanFactory · 09/05/2024 22:08

I wonder if we are all being taken for fools by all the characters. Perhaps it's some sort of social experiment to get everyone talking.

I think this is exactly what it is, a long game piece of art. It would be fascinating if so.

ItDoesntHaveToBeDave · 10/05/2024 11:03

For someone supposedly educated, her saying "hyper-bowl" for "hyperbole" is very odd

Her talking about her boyfriend...sounds like "he goes to another school" sort of BF...

Somepeoplearesnippy · 10/05/2024 11:08

Whilst I think she was pretty much chatting shit for most of that interview I can see how you can be middle class AND impoverished. Class isn't necessarily an indicator of household income. There are plenty of middle class and even titled people living hand to mouth.

I also take issue with posters saying she clearly isn't educated because she can't pronounce hyperbole. Not knowing how to pronounce a word shows you learnt it by reading and people who read are often also well educated.

Redpaisely · 10/05/2024 11:17

Americano75 · 09/05/2024 21:57

I watched about 5 minutes and had to turn off, it was so uncomfortable. The woman isn't well, the whole thing felt exploitative.

She is not well. But her sickness caused harm to others, she seemed to be doing ok living life of lies.

80schildhood · 10/05/2024 11:18

I'm old and did Latin in school. I still thought it was hyper-bowl until I was at uni. I had never heard it said out loud until then. 🤣

I still occasionally say hyper-bowl to take the piss out of myself.

Backtothepalmtrees · 10/05/2024 11:19

her denying ever being in court or prison surely that would be easy for a journalist to find out

tiredandabitfat · 10/05/2024 11:23

MinervaMcGonagallsCat · 10/05/2024 10:23

@tir

You know her in real life?

Has she ever worked as a lawyer? She seems to have never answered this

I knew her in the late 90s, early 00s. It was well known what happened with Laura and Jimmy Wray. At that time she'd only had her few days of legal trainineeship before getting fired - nothing else.

What she did in the last 20 years I've no
Idea.

I'd wondered what happened to her. No I know.

@MinervaMcGonagallsCat thanks for replying.

That's what I suspected. So her claims of Laura Wray "headhunting" her from another film is just nonsense.

She really is so full of her own self importance.

I can understand why would hide if you saw her in the street. She is a very dangerous woman.

tiredandabitfat · 10/05/2024 11:29

@ShortFatHouseElf Oh, is it?

I've never heard of that programme.

But she has written on her Facebook page a few times and she just says "BBC Breaking News"....so I'm not sure

tiredandabitfat · 10/05/2024 11:32

MinervaMcGonagallsCat · 10/05/2024 10:52

My experience of her (25-30 years ago) was that she was not vulnerable.

Everyone else was.

She could flip in an instant. Be chatting and giggling and then suddenly screaming then back to chatting and giggling without missing a breath.

She made threats all the time.

I witnessed her physically assaulting a woman. It came out of nowhere. Sudden and vicious and unprovoked.

Social media and even email wasn't a thing back then so she would follow people and leave long rambling answering machine messages.

She scared me.

Jesus, that is chilling.

Was she working back then? How did she support herself?

Because she sounds entirely incapable of holding down a job.

tiredandabitfat · 10/05/2024 11:34

Backtothepalmtrees · 10/05/2024 11:19

her denying ever being in court or prison surely that would be easy for a journalist to find out

I don't think she has though, I think that much is true.

Gadd did say that part was made up.

I think she has done some utterly dreadful things, but I don't think she has ever been held to account.

FedUpAndTiredToday · 10/05/2024 11:36

In a way I think that it is irrelevant:

They said it was a true story, not based on real life events*. It is proven that it is not true and he said he changed things (she did not go to prison, for example) (edited to say that I messed up the bold words!)

*He said he changed enough to make her not recognisable, yet it clearly is referring to her (taking into account what she said about the name - reindeer)

*She is now being harassed. If it’s true, then she needs help and no one deserves harassment like this

*There are also men now being being accused (of the rape), this goes beyond just her

I find all of this very problematic. Regardless of whether she's telling the truth or lying.

FedUpAndTiredToday · 10/05/2024 11:39

tiredandabitfat · 10/05/2024 11:34

I don't think she has though, I think that much is true.

Gadd did say that part was made up.

I think she has done some utterly dreadful things, but I don't think she has ever been held to account.

So then the story is not true as was very clearly claimed, but based on real events . I think that is problematic and needs addressing.

Shesaidseaside · 10/05/2024 11:50

I think she’s probably a sociopath. He shouldn’t have interviewed her at all.