To think most women on here hate men

[Tanyahawkes]

Sorry for the rant but I’m noticing a pattern on mn, any post involving a man and a disagreement results in multiple calls of he’s a narcissist, he’s abusing, he’s controlling, leave the bastard!

I’ll admit that a list of posts do involve behaviour that is not nice from dh and dp. So many posts also can be interpreted in many ways too, I just feel like a large number of women jump to the worst conclusion first about a strangers partner, having only one side of a story told in a short version.

for anyone misunderstanding me, if a post says the partner is hurting physically, calling names, cheating, putting the op down, then yes I agree, ltb (so long as the post is true) it’s when a post says “great relationship, today partner upset me and we couldn’t see eye to eye” and everyone calls the poor guy a narcissist etc

Yet so predictable.

I can't answer for pp but I don't want maternity leave, I want parental leave for both parents that is more than just 2 weeks for fathers.

@ToveJanssonsWife Some women accept it because they enjoy the lifestyle that comes with a wealthy husband/not having to work. Ever. They becme a "typical housewife" and are willing to accept an inbalance as are their husbands.

@PamPamPamPam You don't accept misogyny, but misandry is OK :)

So disappointing.

As covered before Misandry isn’t really a thing because no man is harmed or in danger because of it, unlike women from misogyny.
Men are often put out because women expect the bare minimum from them.

It sounds like you’re in a really good position in your relationship - can you not have a little understanding that not everyone is as lucky as you?

Here's a thought: if you don't want to be thought of as an MRA, don't espouse MRA beliefs. Holding those beliefs is what makes one an MRA.

yes they do, and many reach middle age and regret their choices, realising they’ve put themselves in a really vulnerable position.

I’ve advised my daughter to never be financially dependent on a man, it’s a very weak position to be in.

@ToveJanssonsWife Yes, because all men LOVE working themselves into the ground as they are expected to be the sole provider whilst their SAH wife regularly lunches(!)
Not luck. Boundaries.

You know what pisses me up? That new argument about who would you rather be alone in the woods with, a bear or a man, I am sorry, I know there are a lot of men that are scum, but it's the same for women, you can't generalise. There are good men out there that care for and protect their families, men take the shitty jobs no one else would do, in situations of famine, crisis like natural disasters and war most men would try and help and protect women and children. I have a little boy and he is the most caring loving boy , and I am trying to bring him up so that he keeps these qualities after he turns into a man.

At the risk of being that poster, my husband says...

Things are always fine until they're not.

Some women are entirely supported by their partners but have protections in place so that they will be fine if they should become single one way or another. That's great. An awful lot haven't, though, and that's a classic case of things being fine until they're not. They may stay fine, which is great, but they may not...and then, they're not.

I would hope that if a woman is entirely supported, that's a joint and ongoing decision that the man is happy with. If it's not, then the person earning the money would appear to have more options available to them.

In my experience many men would rather work and avoid the drudgery of home life. Successful men usually have a wife at home whose support has allowed him to succeed.

The vast majority of wives are not ladies who lunch - that’s a rare and privileged thing! But it’s a real MRA thing to come from a point of suggesting this is the normal experience of a woman.

As for working into the ground - that’s not what I’ve seen of any men.

in situations of famine, crisis like natural disasters and war most men would try and help and protect women and children.

Haiti and Oxfam workers.
War and the inevitable rape and murder of women and children.
In situations like these men are not known for helping and protecting. I mean helping maybe, but with a payoff.

@ToveJanssonsWife So exactly what do housewives do at home all day when kids at school?

Most mothers I know work part time.

If some couples have an arrangement where the wife is at home all day it’s entirely up to them. If it works for them, fine. If it doesn’t it needs to be changed. That’s not really the point of the thread at all though, it’s a timely distraction to really drive home how awful women are.

You've hit the nail firmly and squarely on its head!!

At times, the comments by misandrists are just plain nasty, with no ifs, not buts and unwarranted. However, at times, they can be appropriate but not most of the time.

Even females turning on females at times is horrendous

However, I guess it is a place for letting off steam

At times, when someone defends a male, they are called misogynistic when cleary they are not.

Having stated the above, these are helpful and interesting forums

https://www.statista.com/statistics/418470/number-of-perpetrators-in-child-abuse-cases-in-the-us-by-sex/#:~:text=In%202021%2C%20about%20233%2C918%20perpetrators,compared%20to%20213%2C672%20male%20perpetrators.

However essentially everything on this post is saying how bad men are?

A response to a thread title saying we’re all man haters because we say LTB when a man in a scenario is being a dick.

Clearly there are posters here that think it’s worse for women to call out poor behaviour than the poor behaviour itself.

RULES OF MISOGYNY. So relevant here.

Can you point to some actually examples of posts? I read loads of Mumsnet posts and I have never noticed the pattern you are describing. I do see lots of examples of men genuinely being cunts though.

@WilliamButt do give it up! There’s loads. That’s like saying there’s no step mum haters, or MN doesn’t have any transphobia!

I’ve linked 2, however some people with a different interpretation of these posts have done nothing but tell me I have no right to an opinion, I’m not saying it’s a black and white thing of comments, just a general vibe that comes across

https://www.unwomen.org/sites/default/files/Headquarters/Media/Publications/UNIFEM/EVAWkit066FactsheetConflictAndPostConflictten.pdf

Plus Haiti and other places where non-profit workers preyed on local women and girls.

The bear/woman/man thing is a thought experiment. You wouldn't think twice about a strange woman. Most people, including men, would think for at least a millisecond longer if it was their 13 yo daughter in the woods with a strange man. And wouldn't want either. A woman, they'd actively want to be there.

Yeah they just aren't very good examples of the point you are trying to make.

And the fact that you agree with the distinguished social commentator, who is almost certainly a man, says it all really.

I agree that it's full of step mum haters, transphobia and even MIL haters. Just not really man haters. Soz if that offends you.