To think most women on here hate men

[Tanyahawkes]

Sorry for the rant but I’m noticing a pattern on mn, any post involving a man and a disagreement results in multiple calls of he’s a narcissist, he’s abusing, he’s controlling, leave the bastard!

I’ll admit that a list of posts do involve behaviour that is not nice from dh and dp. So many posts also can be interpreted in many ways too, I just feel like a large number of women jump to the worst conclusion first about a strangers partner, having only one side of a story told in a short version.

for anyone misunderstanding me, if a post says the partner is hurting physically, calling names, cheating, putting the op down, then yes I agree, ltb (so long as the post is true) it’s when a post says “great relationship, today partner upset me and we couldn’t see eye to eye” and everyone calls the poor guy a narcissist etc

You are just proving yourself to be worse than last night here, who do you think you can tell they cannot post stuff on here? High and mighty much! Honestly keep going with your statistics and stuff that miss my original point entirely. Statistics while give an idea of things are not factually accurate, they only record results of those asked. I’m actually so done responding to most people now. Say what you like about me, you have no clue about me at all, just a perception based on one post I’ve started

@ToveJanssonsWife I'd rather be labelled a bitch than tolerate a lazy husband! My husband pulls his weight; always has done, always will.
And equally, I pull mine.

@PamPamPamPam Effects of having periods? Not sure what you think employers should do about this? Give me time off?

God, actually I don't care if women hate men, I don't hate all men (just most of them) but I totally support any woman who wants as little to do with men as possible, and I just don't give a shit if it upsets anyone.

Why not?

Seriously you need to move away from perceiving men as the default human and the idea that this is just the way it is. It really is not. The world of work does not need to be like this. Society does not need to be like this. This is the world that men created to suit their own needs: not ours, not the planet's, not other species', just theirs. And everyone else is suffering as a result. So again, why not?

You don't think women should have time off work if they are anemic or passing out/throwing up from pain?

Agree. And men who moan that women hate men only care because it hurts their ego. Women aren't generally a real threat to them.

The PP is doing nothing of the sort.

If you post a thread with the clear intention of goading the site's membership (re-read the thread title for clarification if this is in any way confusing), then any claim as to being 'under attack' when people draw understandable conclusions about this appears disingenuous at best.

The thread has doubtless been entertaining, if not for the reasons you intended (whatever those might have been).

@Missamyp it's interesting that you perceive people are "attacking" and "bullying" for simply being forthright in their opinions. Would you have as much of an issue if men disagreed with you so vehemently? Or would you perceive that they were being "assertive" and "challenging"?

But of course we are all just bitches and harridans I guess.

You are the one claiming women are "practically abusive" for disagreeing with you yet claiming a man shouting and screaming isn't abusive

So the further claims of being attacked when you are disagreed with make it all a bit of a hypocritical thread tbh

Maybe don't make a thread claiming women shout abuse too easily, and then claim ou are being practically abused off the back of some forum posts.

@Oneofthesurvivors of course not, we should just place a bucket under our desks and carry on! (Sarcasm). Women are their own worst enemies sometimes.

Again, it's ingrained misogyny.

"I'm not like those other pathetic women, I'm different! I can give any man a run for his money!" Let's see how far that gets you when the shit hits the fan.

And I'm assuming that all the women that are arguing that men have it just as tough and women don't need any additional support or consideration will not take any maternity leave if they have children, will attend all pregnancy-related appointments in their own time, and will not bother their doctors with any menstruation or menopause-related issues.

And please make sure to schedule childbirth for after 5pm or on the weekends so that you are fresh and ready to get back to work the next day thank you-those spreadsheets aren't going to fill themselves!

@PamPamPamPam Perhaps my employers should allow me to use the bathroom when I need to, especially when I'm menstruating? Doesn't happen BTW... I'm a primary teacher. Can often go for 3.5/4 hours without being able to visit the bathroom. Bleeding often heavy as I'm peri.
Children cannot be left unsupervised, regardless of whether their teacher is male or female.

Indeed.

There is a certain brand of internet commentary which goes directly on the attack against women on a fairly frequent basis. It chucks a grenade into the mix, stands back and waits for it to go off, then cries 'victim' and makes the claim of being bullied and abused when its target retaliates. Such cases have been known to go to court.

This tactic, as deployed rather unsuccessfully by this thread's OP, is revealing.

And who designed the standard school day in this way? Who decided one adult was enough for a classroom full of children? Why oh why does "society" place such little importance on the health and well-being of teachers? Come on now, please use some critical thinking skills.

@PamPamPamPam Yes but let's be real, in what other job would you get this? Not being able to use the loo for hours on end...
It's not about misogyny here and all about budgets. Not enough staff.
Do you work in a school?

I mean this with the greatest of respect but I really cannot keep going over the same thing. I have said on multiple occasions now that every aspect of society has historically been designed by men for men. That includes the way we live and the way we work. It includes how funding is allocated, which professions are valued and which are not.

There isn't the funding in teaching because that is a conscious decision that has been made by men in power.

Every single societal structure we have has a specific thought process behind it. And that thought process has been led by men who will focus predominantly on their own needs and values. None of this is accidental.

Men have got away with bad behaviour for so long .Women are supposed to be equal, however many are abused .sometimes not in an obvious way .LTB is said by many women who have suffered a drip drip sort of RL .where it starts off trivial and gets worse. Modern marriage means more not all women can at least get a shot of leaving if unhappy now. Years ago my DGMs friends DH made her walk a few steps behind pushing the pram containing his own DC!

@PamPamPamPam I'm not going to keep going over this either, but it appears you are blaming every "ill" in society on men. I personally blame the Conservatives. The dire teacher recruitment and retention crisis in on them. I'm 20 years' qualified with a SEN specialism and I'm off in July to retrain. It can't come quick enough!

Well if you think that women the world over were absolutely fine up until 2010 when the Conservatives took over the UK government then there really isn't anything else I can say to you. I despair, I really do.

There are a lot of bitter ex wives on here who love complaining about how terrible their lives were with a former husband/partner. Most of it is made up or exaggerated.

What a joke that you think your posts here have given the impression that you are in any way reasonable or informed enough to have any right to judge how others are coming across.

In this thread, you have downplayed and minimised abuse (you acknowledge it only to try to get credence when you dismiss it), called it hatred when women are not silent about their trauma at the hands of men, drawn a parallel between men traumatising women and women being rude about it ("two wrongs don't make a right"), spoken an outright untruth about what is said on here and then, when this is pointed out, accused people of misunderstanding (they didn't) or just being wrong for not being nice enough to you about it, and painted yourself as the victim when people told you how it sounded.

I'm making a guess at what got my previous post deleted, since I've not been told and I know I didn't call you any names, so I won't say that part again...but clearly you saw it, so I'm satisfied.

@PamPamPamPam Teaching was a hell of a lot better than it is now!!!
Clearly you do hate men. You seem an angry person too.
I don't - I'm married to one (who is a legend!) I just set the bar high.

And here comes the personal attack. It's honestly so disappointing.

Well lucky old you!

The point is that many women cannot recognise that their husbands are misogynistic pigs because that’s the norm. They’ve grown up with it, they’ve had very few examples of decent behaviour from men and boys.

My opinions that I’ve shared here are based solely on my experiences and on what I’ve learnt over the last few decades, but apparently I’m wrong to suggest that my feelings of men in general are less favourable than they were when I was younger, to the point where I’d rather be single than live with a man.

I’d rather not be called a bitch at all, particularly when I’m trying to help younger women understand that they don’t have to put up with the shit they get from the men in their lives.