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Put your frikking babies to bed!

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Plsdiscuss · 07/05/2024 08:28

I went for a very exclusive dinner Saturday night. I'd been looking forward to it for ages. £150 per head place, which is a huge splurge for us.

A family of 4 were seated next to us at their 7.45pm arrival. The (about) 3 yr old was 50% pacified. The (about) 9 month old in the high chair squawked for about 30 mins then fell asleep, looking very uncomfortable slumped over the side of the highchair.

If their noise wasn't bad enough, I could hear another child crying in another part of the restaurant for about an hour. That child's noise got louder as they were pushed in their pram crossing the restaurant to leave around 9pm. I commented and gestured to my partner. I wasn't as subtle as I thought in this, as the mum looked cross, waved her arm at me and mouthed fuck off.

When my now adult children were that small, they were in bed by 7.30, unless there was an event like a wedding. We got babysitters for evening meals out...very rare as very hard to get babysitters. I would never have dreamt of taking my under 5s to quiet intimate adult spots, then letting them cry for the majority. For 1, I wouldn't have enjoyed my food and 2, neither would those around me.

There's a reason deliveroo exists. Use it. And stop being so frikking selfish. Babies need sleep, not fine dining.

OP posts:
Cerealkiller4U · 07/05/2024 21:57

Maddy70 · 07/05/2024 08:42

I'm no advocate of children should be in beð by 7. That's a ridiculous British thing that you rarely see anywhere else

The issue of children disturbing others meals is the issue. Those children should have been taken outside

Yeah. We have Italian heritage and kids go everywhere out there!

SoEmbarrassed2024 · 07/05/2024 21:57

EverythingYouDoIsaBalloon · 07/05/2024 21:44

What's really jumping out at me in the posts from the 'I'll take my kids where I like when I like and the rest of you can F off' brigade is the apparent lack of consideration of whether being out so late in the evening (in child terms) is actually the best thing for the child or not. Sounds a lot more like 'I want a meal out so I'm dragging my kid with me regardless of whether that's fair on my kid' to me.

No wonder the poor kids are playing up, if it's mid-evening or later they should be at home in bed.

I agree, it's selfish inconsiderate people that don't really care about anyone else OR their own children, as long as they can do what they want when they want, everyone else can just fuck off. I mean the parents of the poor baby asleep and hanging over the high chair for that long are disgusting.

Then no doubt they moan that everywhere 'is so unfriendly to children' they aren't, there is just a time and a place - not everywhere should accommodate children at all times.

Runnerinthenight · 07/05/2024 21:59

earther · 07/05/2024 21:30

You sound stuck up.

She doesn't!

Anonymous2025 · 07/05/2024 21:59

Plsdiscuss · 07/05/2024 21:57

You've called me self absorbed and selfish because I agree with the excellent policy of a national pub chain that serves food and drink banning dogs in every one of their outlets, including their gardens and car parks?

I think your reply says far more about you than mine does about me.

You love a pub that is literally one of the worst pups , that have nil respect for its staff , that has nil morals . So yes that tells me what I need to know about you as good people do not go to weatherspoons . So yes it tells me excqtiy what I needed to know about you

Runnerinthenight · 07/05/2024 22:01

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Completely disagree!!

Fivebyfive2 · 07/05/2024 22:01

Cerealkiller4U · 07/05/2024 21:53

I mean….I went to a 3 Michelin star restaurant. Was about £350 per head.

fanily next to me with really young kids. Who actually behaved impeccably….all I remember thinking was ‘wow….big family, must of cost a fortune!’

rhats it….I didn’t take my kids there but had no issue with anyone else doing it.

But that's not what the op is talking about is it?

She's very clearly talking about parents taking their kids to restaurants when they're obviously over tired, upset or bored and should be at home or at the very least taken outside for a breather or attended to at the table. Not left to scream for almost an hour just because the parents "fancy a nice meal" - sometimes plans don't work out and it's unfair on the kids and the other diners to string it out.

I genuinely can't see why so many people can't see the difference.

Signed, the parent of an autistic 4 year old who is often absolutely fine at restaurants, but sometimes isn't and on those occasions we bail on the restaurant because we're not selfish.

peacefull · 07/05/2024 22:04

I dont have kids and i dont think id want them around me late in the evening having a nice meal.

Blinky21 · 07/05/2024 22:07

Agree, I get so fed up with being disrupted by babies who are noisy because of being kept out after bedtime. Selfish of the parents but it's a good idea to check if places allow children and avoid those that do

Runnerinthenight · 07/05/2024 22:10

Anonymous2025 · 07/05/2024 21:59

You love a pub that is literally one of the worst pups , that have nil respect for its staff , that has nil morals . So yes that tells me what I need to know about you as good people do not go to weatherspoons . So yes it tells me excqtiy what I needed to know about you

She didn't say she loved the pubs - she said she loved their policy! Try reading what's in front of you. I also applaud them and I don't think I've ever been in a Spoons!

Katbum · 07/05/2024 22:11

It’s odd to take kids to a high end place but it depends on the place and the vibe there honestly. If kids are allowed they have right to be there and you are a huge dick to make a mum feel bad that her baby is crying. If you want a child free experience there are so many places you can go for that.

Katbum · 07/05/2024 22:12

peacefull · 07/05/2024 22:04

I dont have kids and i dont think id want them around me late in the evening having a nice meal.

So go to one of the many places where kids aren’t allowed.

Runnerinthenight · 07/05/2024 22:13

All I know is that by that time of the day my children were tired and cranky, and it would not have been a pleasant experience for anyone for us to take them out for dinner. The elder two used to have an activity for an hour on a Wednesday night and we used to sneak off and have a quick meal while they were there. And then we had #3...!!!

Runnerinthenight · 07/05/2024 22:14

Katbum · 07/05/2024 22:12

So go to one of the many places where kids aren’t allowed.

I don't think there are as many places as you make out. Why should adult diners be forced to choose a restaurant on that basis, because lazy parents force their children to go to dinners that they're not interested in, and let them scream their lungs out or run riot?!!

peacefull · 07/05/2024 22:14

Katbum · 07/05/2024 22:12

So go to one of the many places where kids aren’t allowed.

I do well i try to.

Runnerinthenight · 07/05/2024 22:15

Katbum · 07/05/2024 22:11

It’s odd to take kids to a high end place but it depends on the place and the vibe there honestly. If kids are allowed they have right to be there and you are a huge dick to make a mum feel bad that her baby is crying. If you want a child free experience there are so many places you can go for that.

She's not. It's the mother that's at fault for leaving her child to continue crying and not taking it out!!! I don't know where all these child-free places are because I'm not seeing them!?

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 07/05/2024 22:15

Katbum · 07/05/2024 22:11

It’s odd to take kids to a high end place but it depends on the place and the vibe there honestly. If kids are allowed they have right to be there and you are a huge dick to make a mum feel bad that her baby is crying. If you want a child free experience there are so many places you can go for that.

Nah, the mum is a huge dick to let her baby cry for an hour in a restaurant and not take them outside.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 07/05/2024 22:20

Katbum · 07/05/2024 22:11

It’s odd to take kids to a high end place but it depends on the place and the vibe there honestly. If kids are allowed they have right to be there and you are a huge dick to make a mum feel bad that her baby is crying. If you want a child free experience there are so many places you can go for that.

If the baby starts crying, take them out! If you don't you're the dick.

Why is this so difficult to grasp?

Sharptonguedwoman · 07/05/2024 22:21

earther · 07/05/2024 21:30

You sound stuck up.

Don't want wailing children when trying to have a nice dinner.

dragonscannotswim · 07/05/2024 22:30

CatherinedeBourgh · 07/05/2024 08:32

You chose to leave your dc at home, and they would settle for a babysitter. That may not be the case for everyone.

I would class 7.45 as an early dinner, and would expect dc at that time, if I wanted adult time I would probably choose a later sitting, 8.30 or 9pm.

7.45 an early dinner?? For dc?? Are you Spanish?!

CatherinedeBourgh · 07/05/2024 22:32

dragonscannotswim · 07/05/2024 22:30

7.45 an early dinner?? For dc?? Are you Spanish?!

No, not early for dc, early for adults. Normal for children.

Hence I would expect children at that time, and if I wanted no children I would go later.

TheaBrandt · 07/05/2024 22:34

Agree op weird selfish behaviour. Lose lose scenario all round. Parents can’t be enjoying it the toddlers sure as hell aren’t and you are pissing off the other customers and spoiling their evening too. Dont get it.

Anonymous2025 · 07/05/2024 22:39

dragonscannotswim · 07/05/2024 22:30

7.45 an early dinner?? For dc?? Are you Spanish?!

She is not for sure as Spanish never eat before 8:30 often much later

dragonscannotswim · 07/05/2024 22:43

Er... yes... @Anonymous2025 , that was kind of my point 🙄

Teentaxidriver · 07/05/2024 22:45

Oranitle · 07/05/2024 08:32

Children have as much right to be in a restaurant as you do. Times have changed, people enjoy spending time with their children and if they want to bring them out for dinner then why not! And bed at 7 is very early for most families

Oh please. So entitled and pompous. Small children do not enjoy fine dining. You are grasping to justify an absurd position. If you take your small child to an expensive restaurant, then you are a skin flint for not paying for a sitter and you are hugely selfish if its crying and behaviour spoils grown up people’s enjoyment.

Times have changed - don’t make me laugh.

jannier · 07/05/2024 22:46

WittyBird · 07/05/2024 21:52

To be clear, I wasn’t offering DD up for interaction: people would come over to see her and she’d inevitably end up roaming around the place being entertained by other adults. Nobody was forced to interact with her.

(she was walking at 9 months so relatively unusual being so little but so forward.)

If a child is roaming around obviously people will interact with her but it doesn't mean they wanted her attention or would have preferred not to. So basically you left her to be entertained by other adults.
All the ND children I've worked with have cat napped getting a couple of hours a night not sleeping late waking late that would suggest you could get help to change her routine

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