To have pointed out to super enthusiast vegan where pearls come from?

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I went out with some friends today and one of them bought a friend of hers we'd not met before. She would not let up with the vegan stuff - kept lecturing us about where our meat came from, how cows were tortured to make our cheese, how hens were mistreated to lay our eggs etc. etc. it was embarrassing - our poor friend who'd bought her along was obviously mortified. She said later that she knew they were vegan but had never heard them talking like that before.

Finally I'd had enough and asked her about her necklace saying it was beautiful and were the pearls real... she confirmed they were and I said "Oh that really surprises me that a vegan would wear something from a living creature round her neck"

Astonishingly she didn't know where pearls came from and believe me we took some pleasure telling her how oysters were cut open and the pearls were taken from their bodies....

We all ate our ice cream in peace

No idea what taramesalata is, but if it’s not vegetarian, then that person wasn’t vegetarian. 🤷‍♀️

All of that is fine, but there’s nothing worse than someone banging on about it endlessly.

I choose to eat meat, as is my right - it doesn’t mean it’s okay for someone to harp on about how awful my choice is.
Be annoyed, but keep it to yourself.

You lost me at the pearl necklace- was she 60? My grandmother was the only person I think I've ever seen wear one.

The only vegans I know are pretty cool (and quiet about it). No lectures. In fact they are planning a meat and a vegan option for their upcoming wedding to give a choice to all of their guests.

They'll quite happily munch on their 'avocados' and 'almond milk' unaware that harvesting them has great negative impact on the environment and kills multiple animals, especially bumble bees!

How is being a 'vocal vegan' an unlikely occurrence, I'm yet to come across an vegan that isn't vocal about it.

Brilliant, you're vegan. Fantastic, I don't need it rammed down my throat!

My aunt likes to tell me every time I see her that she's vegan, which is offensive to me, does she think I have no brains to remember something she's told me 100 times, it's amusing as she has leather seats in her car. Work that one out.

She bought it not knowing exactly what it was, just as you don't. Then, as it had already been opened, she figured it's better not to let it go to waste.

In the culture where I'm from, it's considered best to kill as few animals as possible, and many people are vegetarian once a week or totally. So if an animal must be killed, you should use all parts of it either for meat or other uses (offal, chicken claws, feathers etc). Under that logic, if you have accidentally bought meat, you should eat it.

I'm explaining this to you in good faith but maybe you're just hankering for an argument - in any case I should go to bed now

Edit when I say "should" I mean people who believe that logic would. Not that you, or anyone else "should".

Not looking for an argument at all. If someone knowingly eats a food that isn’t vegetarian then they’re not vegetarian, which is their choice.

Well done!

Actually, this thread has helped me make up my mind about a dilemma. My husband gave me his mother's pearl earrings when we got married.

I already passed on the vast majority of her jewellery to DH's granddaughter, but I still have the earrings. Couldn't decide whether to leave them to her or to DH's grandniece. (It's complicated, but because of various in-family adoptions, the grandniece isn't as closely related to my MIL as the granddaughter.)

Granddaughter is a very strict vegan - for that reason, my FIL's shark tooth cufflinks weren't passed to her. Guess the grandniece will get the earrings.

Well done OP! 🌹

@Illpickthatup

Hi, it's me. The vegan who makes tuna sandwiches and scrambled eggs for her DH almost daily because his diet is his business.

I like that. Live and let live. 🌹

I seriously doubt the truth of this story. I have yet to meet any vegetarian or vegan pushing their views on to someone else.

😂😂I take it you haven't been on MN long then.

It’s a shame this subject causes so much division. I eat meat but I also object to cruel industrial farming methods. We need to go back to valuing our food instead of constantly chucking out of date food from our fridges (I’m guilty of this).

Would you say that about someone who hit their dog or tortured their cat? Would I be being ‘preachy’ if I tried to explain why I thought that was wrong? Should I stfu? What about other moral issues like domestic violence or racism or slavery?

as it happens I rarely raise it myself, but if someone asks me (as they invariably do) I tell them why I don’t eat meat or dairy.

it’s not my fault you’re a hypocrite who doesn’t want to know how about the suffering the animal, which feels as much as your dog or cat does, undergoes its whole life before being killed.

Some people join a movement and regurgitate what they hear or see without doing any homework or thinking themselves.

Good come back

So many vegans around preaching about their lifestyles and inflicting their diet choices of people at weddings. I don’t know how people cope with them 🙄

IRL I know a few vegans, my Dsis included who is a very strict vegan, and never hear them talking about unless asked or if it comes up WRT their diet.

People choose veganism for all sorts of different reasons, OP.
My DD became vegan when she got over her anxiety by adopting a vegan diet on advice from a “militant” vegan.
I’m just happy that she is no longer suffering from anxiety. She is not militant - it’s just a diet that seems to help her, and she certainly doesn’t need us to change ours.
Meanwhile, the militant vegan continues to post provocative anti-omnivore posts on SM - which is fine: she is entitled to her own opinion…

Yup. The preachy vegan, the pearl ‘gotcha’, the smug icecream eating…

Pearls are cosmetic, bacon is for eating. HTH.

My teen dc is a vegan and I know how hard it is to live with someone constantly telling you about animal welfare!
I must admit though, when you actually look into it all-I’m sent lots of videos my dc, it is appalling what the animals go through, especially in the dairy industry.

Hi all,
Thank you to the very few who reported their concerns about this thread to MNHQ as per our guidelines. In fact, the OP has been with us for more than a decade with an excellent track record so we are inclined to give her the benefit of the doubt here.

The thread itself is an object lesson in why we at MNHQ loathe trollhunting so much. One MNer begins the troll hunt and then others, in an effort to prove publicly how they too weren't "taken in", join them in their snarky commentary and soon the whole thread is a distressing and personal derail that destroys the thread and becomes a highly upsetting pile-on for the OP.

We will be suspending some posters for a week and we sincerely recommend that in order to protect ongoing posting privileges the rest of the trollhunters take our warning seriously.

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I dont think many vegans would have any issue with sharks teeth - sharks drop them by the thousand

@HopeMumsnet Can I ask how much thought goes into saying someone is a long term poster so ‘we’re giving them the benefit of the doubt’. Should you not decide more based on the likelihood of the story rather than the amount of time they’ve been hear?